>lift heavy mostly
>talking to recruiter
>studying ASVAB and staying clean
>try as many chin ups as possible
>18
>pathetic
I guess training for strength does little for Air Force PT requirements. Will jump rope or other types of muscle endurance HIIT help me with long sets up chins/push ups/running in general?
Basically how do I prepare so that boot camp is breezy (not that Air Force isn't)?
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18 in a row is pretty good for most people. How many do you need to do? If you want to do more reps the best thing to do is weighted chin ups. Also yeah getting your cardio up will help too
Is this a joke?
Chair force minimum is like 3 pullups
18 would enable you to score a 1st class PT even after marine bootcamp
wait I just googled it and pull ups don't seem stressed. 44 push ups in under a minute might be tough though
And I do weighted chins but doesn't that only help with strength? Or is the "after 10 reps it's endurance" thing just a meme?
yeah I just read that. I knew there was a drop off from other branches but didn't think it'd be that much
44 pushups is also easy, just keep adding more reps every workout.
For the weighted chins, the stronger you are, the less energy you need to use on each rep, which let's you do more reps. I don't know if the endurance this is a meme, I just know training weighted chins let me do a lot more unweighted chins in a row. It's like how if you can bench 2pl8, you can probably bench the bar for like 100 reps, but at 2pl8 you can only do 5 reps
Oh which reminds me, weighted dips can help you increase your pushups too.
>Will jump rope or other types of muscle endurance HIIT help me with long sets up chins/push ups/running in general?
will it help? more than nothing at all
What will help the most?
run alot (1-3 miles per session)
do push ups till fail, recover, repeat
same thing with pull ups
and planks, do lots of fucking planks (you're gonna be in the front leaning rest till you want to die) plus this will help with sit up portion of test
I get what you mean. I think weighted sets lets me burst through the first 10-15 reps on BW chins, but after those I'm not sure how much it helps. Like will going from 35 lbs chins to 45 lbs chins help me get from 18 unweighted to 20? Or will something like jump rope or a rowing machine help me more if that makes sense
I guess I should suck it up and run outside
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What MOS are you looking into for the Air Force?
Why the Air Force?
>will going from 35lbs to 45lbs chins help
Definitely. I don't the the jump rope will do shit, unless the reason you can't keep going is that you're out of breath. But if it's your arms giving out then strength is what you want
*I don't think
I don't know what MOS systems programming is but that's my goal. Cyberspace warfare operator (or most operator positions) are intriguing to me too
>Why the Air Force?
Why not? Good benefits and a field that will help me in civ life after
>lift heavy mostly
user, what is your definition of heavy?
Are you powerlifting? Body Building? Crossfit?
IMO, work on Muscle Endurance, Calisthenics and Cardio
Lift 3x Max per week
Other days should be devoted to endurance
One day of Rest
MOS, damn you are a newfag
Military Occupational Speciality = your job
Good idea all things being equal
How is your ASVAB training coming along
Cyber jobs require High IQ = High ASVAB
sorry I thought lifting heavy (low volume high weight) was synonymous with power lifting. I like power lifting despite being small and weak, there's just something cool about not looking like I should be able to lift something I can. Plus heavy squats does more for anxiety relieve the rest of the day than anything else
>IMO, work on Muscle Endurance, Calisthenics and Cardio
This is what I suspected would help most. I'm using a rowing machine and jump rope for now. Should probably run
My last afqt was 80 I need to learn more about workshop and tools before my ASVAB. I know MOS means position I just don't know what you meant in that context, like MOS code itself or just positions. I am a noob
Yes running is essential for boot camp
Separate weak from chaff
Tests your mental fortitude and toughness
You need to be mobile
Training like a football player won't help unless you are a freak athlete, probably not
Start with a few miles and increase 5% each week
Get some decent running sneakers
No problemo user
80 is solid, probably qualify for many positions
Keep studying
How long until your official test?
Due you have any shipment dates forecast and projections of when you might enlist and MEPS?
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Does anyone have a swim program they follow? I know swim week is easy but I really want to go into MOS 0321.
Also, for running, I always injure myself with shin splints and stress fractures from trying to run too much too soon. Anyone have a remedy for this? Or should I just buy compression sleeves for my legs and keep pushing?
you think if I get my HIIT numbers up it'll make running a breeze? Similar to weighted chins vs BW?
No official MEPS date because I told my recruiter I wanted to study more and finish my summer job. I'd also likely fail my test for weed at this point, need another two weeks to be safe
I don't have advice but best of luck to you
As you can probably tell, I'm very much in the beginning phases of the process. There's no rush and I just want to get in better shape physically and mentally first
Don't sign a recon contract with your recruiter
Most likely you'll fail and end up doing admin or something after leaving BRC
Sign an 03xx contract and ask to go to BRC after soi. That way you'll be a grunt no matter what
Between now and bootcamp, during your 10 days after boot and if you can during SOI use your weekend liberty to practice treading water and holding your breath while swimming as far as you can underwater.
Also swim in the ocean to get used to waves
I'd never screw myself over by signing a recon contract. I have the afqt and asvab scores for recon, but if I feel like I can't make it, then I am more than happy to with any 03xx MOS.
Do you need glasses? If not, try being a scout sniper. The corps always needs more elite shooters.
If you can do this you're good to go. If you can't, keep at it or die trying.
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HIIT anabolic conditioning is good
Don't get me wrong
However in Bootcamp you will be doing plenty of low intensity aerobic running
Work both
On lift day, hit up the HIIT
On Cardio days, due low intensity aerobic workout
3 Day HIIT
3 Day Low Intensity
1 Day Rest
>op is trying to join the air force
>links MARSOC prep guide
I like where your head is at but this will give OP the the PT requirements for a PJ
thanks m8 this sounds good to me
I mean if I'm prepped for Marines then I'm definitely prepped for Air Force. Plus let's say USAF has no positions in my field, in that case I'm willing to try another branch with programming/operations
with that said, my recruiter already told me positions are open so this is unlikely. Still can't hurt
Lads, I'm also prepping for the military (not US tho). Will I fuck my shit up if I run 5 times a week? (3 times on non-lifting days and 2 times on lifting days) I really need to improve my running speed to reach my goals.
what would you fuck up doing that? Just make the 2 days on lifting days HIIT and not long distance & you're fine. In fact you should be doing this unless you're trying to bulk and are a hard gainer
Stress fractures an all that jazz kinda scare me
For running speed, my trouble is endurance. Scientifically one of the best ways to improve endurance is sprints.
30 seconds of MAXIMUM effort sprints followed by 3 minutes of rest. Repeat 5-8 times. I do this twice a week, once is on a lifting day.
OP aside, can someone link me to some special forces training programs? Not looking to join I'm just interested and I'd like to get my conditioning up.
>44 push ups in under a minute
What the fuck, this is some navy seals shit stop lying.
If you aren’t joining the army with an 11x contract that has at least op4 on it, you are wrong. Op40 is the ultimate goal.
T. Windowlicker who jumps out of planes
Seems fairly fit
Last I tried I could do 58, though didnt ti.e it, and of course those last 10-15 are a push
do you have experience in cardio or are you jumping right into 5 days? If you're worried about stress fractures you can try rowing machines, battle ropes, swimming, or jump rope with good form. Sprinting and HIIT in general shouldn't cause stress fractures. For long distance you can ease into it but proper running form, stretching and nutrition should keep you safe
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Why do you want to fight for your jewish overlords? Pathetic manchild, this is your distinctive feature - want to be enrolled into this kind of nonsense
>getting paid for a life skill that can net me $100k a year
>sitting behind a computer
I'm really risking it all for Israel
What type of a life skill can you learn in the army which gonna be useful in the long run? I will wait
We need some of )))US((( inside the deep state.
When shit hits the fan. They will be ready to counter and fight back.
Conceal the power level user, be patient
Don't trust spergs, keep low profile
Try not to get killed for ZOG and the traitors
Patriots still exist
I'm not joining the army and systems programming? I'll wait for you to tell me coding is a meme
GI bill lol
Also being an aviation mechanic pays extremely well irl
Why is it so hard for you retards to figure out that strength without endurance is useless, and secondly that you train for strength endurance by doing higher reps?
> muh high reps cannot make you strong!!! t. experienced lifter of 3 months
Security clearance and stellar military resume can get you in the front door of any agency or federal defense contractor. If you play your cards right and excel at your job and get certifications. Golden ticket to the middle class and family life, avoid thots/roasties/dependas. You will go far
What language? If its not C++, Java or Python, you are doing a meme
Good luck in maintaining those planes everyday, I wonder how you will explain it to yourself and your senpai if you have any what useful you are doing in life. Fueling and fixing planes is not something you can be proud of in a casual conversation btw
Lmao dude. Who cares what you do if you make good money?
Wrong, user
Government is a racket
Bleed the whore dry
Who cares about your meme?
You may know how to code but OP is a patriotic coder, fuck off
ive literally sat infront of a screen half my life and I can easily do 44 pushups in under 1 minute what an absolute joke
i prepped for the military before i decided i wanted to make way more money doing something way more interesting
just do the 100pushups, 25 pullups, and C25K programs (then do jogs with weighted vests and do ruckmarches)... if you do that you will breeze through all PT. the requirements are low as fuck, it's the military not a sports team all you have to do is meet the bare minimum of not being a total faggot lmao
44 pushups in under one minute? What is this, a joke? Wooooow at last I can truly witness the true power of the Army™
18 chin ups is good man. 'strength' is a spectrum, but anyway your best bet is to train around chins push ups and runs.... no need to introduce skipping ropes. There's no reason you can't continue doing barbell work either imo but keep testing yourself on the stuff they will actually test you on.
Semi related: he army is introducing the combat readiness test which includes a 3rm trap deadlift, farmers walks, sled drags and medicine ball throws.
this is a really dumb question but do all military bases have gyms? Will I be too busy to be able to lift & continue my current strength routine while in there?
You'll be fine. Running is what will be hardest. Literally just run 2 miles every day, do a minute of pushups and a minute of situps and you'll be fine.
When I left, I was at 11:30 1.5 mile, 55 pushups/minute and 30 situps/minute. When I graduated I was running a 9:45 1.5 mile, 85 pushups in a minute and 60 situps.
As far as I've seen, every base has a gym, yeah. And if not, they'd probably afford you money to get one off base because anyone who fails their PT test can just say "I didn't have a gym to work out in".
Are you 50kg and doing half ROM?
The best strength routine you gonna get is every night's anal preparation with officers
>you will never be able to join the air force because you slonked too much of the devils lettuce
OP at least let us know if aliens are exist once you get in
Enjoy fighting for Israel. Good goys!!
>Air Force
>Pt standards
Pick one
What would you recommend for someone who wants to prep for the SEALs? Know any guides or something?
Actually the term used by the usaf is AFSC, Air Force specialty code, not MOS.
Different branch, so i'm not sure. I'd suggest looking up some former SEAL's tips. Besides that, I'd suggest that you train for effectiveness; start doing more kettlebell, mace, and ruck work.
Most bases are like little towns with a lots of shit. I was at a small base in North Carolina we had 3 gyms, a bowling ally, a movie theater, a golf course, a flight line. Grocery stores and gas stations.
Military is more about endurance than strength. That being said, you should be fine if you are not far. There are fat service men in all branches. In the Marines, the fattys are tortured with special fitness programs. But they were still there barely passing fitness test and being disgusting in uniform.
The phone numbers for training squadrons at Lackland are available through the internet. Call up one of the NCOs working CQ that day, ask if they have time to explain to you the training schedule/programming of weekly PT so you can hit the ground running at basic. If you do the PT programming the air force successfully uses to train thousands of troops through basic ahead of time, literally none of what you do in those eight weeks will be physically difficult, because you'll already have a PT score in the 90s. This is what I wish someone told me before I left for basic.
Alright. Well thanx for the info anyways. Its appreciated.
Plenty of bodyweight exercises and endurance, most of what you'll be doing in basic is repetitive exercises that require no equipment until people start dropping from muscle failure
3 is minimum ist for marine corps as well
>die for Israel 1x1
I don't know about the chair force, but in Army basic I lost damn near all my muscle because I hadn't learned how to get my daily caloric intake in a total of 5 minutes or how to sleep through anything.
>chair force
Is this a joke? Any average male should be able to easily breeze through bootcamp.
You don't need to be an athlete to do it.
Dont bother getting super jacked. You're going to lose it all during basic.
The physical fitness test is not hard to pass. Its not easy to max but if you don't pass you are seriously a failure.
Honest advice for prepping for it would be stop lifting entirely. Just do pushups, situps, pullups, and run a lot. Maxing the run is the hardest part imo. My PFT scores dropped heavily when I started lifting, even being fit adding mass just slows you down.
I've been in the army for 2 years now, every years we are tested on our physical abilities, i always did well but I want to get better.
Does anyone have a routine training to get better at them, or some advices ?
- cooper test
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I'm at 3000m and i want to get to 3200.
a swimming test : 100m + 10m in apnea
I do it in 2min20, 1min40 will be nice.
2 ropes climbing of 7 meters, in less than 10 secs, I usually do it in 12.
And the harder part, some course obstacle.
Every base i've been to so far has had a gym, spain having the best one
Leaving for army basic training soon the one thing I suck at is cardio especially endurance, what's a good way to improve? All I do now is run on a treadmill for ten minutes three days a week.
This
A lot of sprinting and general strength training.
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Say what you want about Alan Thrall, but he did graduate as company honorman so he does know what he's talking about when it comes to bootcamp.
>"I work on planes" isn't something people will respect
>talking about what you can be proud of while unironically talking about senpais
>buying into the pride meme at all and not being humble
so much wrong here
What job you in now?
Aim for cardio lasting at least 20mins
Seeing as how 99% of your exercise in the military is:
pushups
running with a heavy backpack
pullups
sit-ups
I would advise you do those instead of SS
Quit lifting heavy and start running, quit doing chin ups and start doing pull ups
I've been in the Army for two years and not once in my entire career have I lifted heavy for work, or done chin ups.
The only thing you need to make it big in the military is some fucking heart. You can get it on clearance at wallmart
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Shitton of pushups. This was in the late 80s in the Army so things are different, but in BT my dad once counted the pushups they did in one day and it was 740 something.
Just a reminder that the military would much rather you be a twink that can run fast than a swole bodybuilder.
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why can't I do both even if power lifting doesn't help me in military?
>"What do you do for a living"
>"I disessemble and run 400 hour tests on F-15 engines, you know the main fighter jets for our entire military network?"
>"Holy shit thats cool, you ever get to fly them?"
>"Nah, itd be cool to fly but it destroys your body being under that G force all the time but i get to see some crazy shit on the flight line"
Aside from breaking the first rule of OPSEC by talking about your work..... no one civy/normi will ever not want to hear that conversation. Yous a dumbass for thinking someone wouldnt take pride having what would be considered one of the most interesting jobs in a crowded room
You're probably fine for the Air Force
For anyone looking to go SOF, 1/2/3/4 is a good benchmark in strength
90 pushups/situps in 2 minutes
~6 minute mile,
running five days a week is fine, just mix up your workouts
For example when I was in track and field we would alternate low intensity endurance running (60-90 mins of running) with high intensity sprint work (stair sprints, hill running, pyramid sets around a track), and then always an easy 30 min recovery run on fridays.
go to the sealswcc website and look at their programs / advice
That's waaaaay more intense than he needs
Like
Do push ups, sit ups, and run everyday
Done
most people by the end of BMT do 60 or above, its not navy seals shit you just get in shape, fatass
Armyfag here
It's crazy how many people freak the fuck out about getting into shape before their equivalent of bootcamp. I was in the same boat and remember making the last few weeks before I shipped absolutely miserable because it was all I could ever think about.
Can you run a mile without dying? Can you do more than fifteen push ups or sit ups in a row? Yes? Congratulations, you are in better shape than half of the recruits who will ship with you. Military training is just that, training. Show up with some fucking dedication and body that weighs less than 300 pounds and they will get you in shape. If you were expected to be Airman fit the day you signed your contract, they wouldn't waste time and money training you in the first fucking place.
With that being said, there's nothing wrong with aiming for that 300 or being a PT stud. Just don't stress about it, is all. Worry about being the best you can be mentally, and let the Drill Sergeants build you up physically.
whats the shortest enlistment possible?
Best damn advise in this entire thread!
Even if you show up as a PT stud the instructors are still gonna beat your ass till you're jello. That and for the first 2 weeks at least nothing you do is gonna be good enough anyway.
what's the shortest enlistment in the military?
boi i tell yah hwut