*wrecks your gut biome*

based and redpilled

Fucking leave rice and potatoes alone.

Is buckwheat, millet and amaranth acceptable?

Nope grains are for slaves

I know this, but I am basically at a slave-tier income right now.
What about peas? There's evidence they were eaten widely from wild-growing plants for many millennia before their cultivation started, and are native to the fertile crescent.

Also based, I've cut out almost all grains/legumes/starches, eating more fats instead, for the past two weeks and feel vastly improved. Just tempted to try some because of value (but this is also why they are a slave food I know).

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If i take those carbs off will you die?

lmao no, starchy foods, especially when cooled modulate your microbiota in very positive ways. post a source when you make a claim like that, but you won't since you're a low carb zealot who's not actually interested in the truth

>Diet of 99% of the earth
>'Wrecks' gut biome
Yeah, no

boys if i ate literally zero carbs would i dead
asking for a friend

google ketosis

Historically this is true, grain was for slaves. But slaves were also the most athletic, fit, functional people of the time. Think of soldiers eating grains, corn, breads etc. and fat emporers eating meat.

Interesting, although i'm wondering how much fat i would need a day, i eat like 6 eggs in the morning anyways would that be enough fat

>citation needed

Are you fucking retarded?

You won't find any here. It's a bunch of retards spouting how ketosis is good for you and carbs are bad.

It's funny, I'm actually in ketosis right now. In my mind it's an absolutely shit-tier diet, but it's actually working quite well for me. It's a lot easier to get my calories in and my energy levels have been good.
However,
>bland food
>expensive
>have to think about omega 6/3
>have to track micronutrients carefully
>almost always deficient in something

It has cleared up my acne so far, so I don't want to stop.

But I have very little doubt that doing keto for long periods of time will fuck you up so I will have to go off soon.

Starchy foods, particularly whole foods with fiber, are some of the best things you can eat for a healthy gut microbiome. The types of bacteria that have health benefits feed on fiber.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957428/

Brown rice and black beans literally every day.

>Brown rice
That arsenic. Wew lad.

Win-win

Its hard to get to a point where you are getting 0 carbs, i you somehow achieved this you would be pretty fucked, like dead in weaks kind of fucked

I'm so fucing tired of keto cucks

Fiber is LITERALLY what feeds your good normal flora, and fibrous foods are accompanied by carbs (seeing as fiber is just indigestible carbs)

Unless you are a marathon runner keto is absolutely retarded

keto is especially retarded if you're a strength athlete because the role that glycogen plays in increasing protein synthesis and recovery

>citation
google any of this you braindead morons

This guy gets it

Fucking this, while in South America for 5 months I ate alot of beans and never got muscle growth as fast as there. Lots of proteins and fiber

> grains are for slaves
> roman legions feasting on grains and making slaves of your ancestors

Explain this.

It would get extremely ketogenic

Oh my god, do some fucking research like the other user said before asking retarded shit like that holy fuck u are dumb

>diet of 99% of misled fools

Not the diet of our ancestors.

4 u

they have found bread as far back as 14,000 years ago

I eat potatoes everyday and I can lift more than you.

>tfw ate cereal for breakfast, some rice with chicken and broccoli for lunch and pasta for dinner

Feels good not being autistic.

u OMAD bro?

I'm italian and have not eaten pasta in 3 months and nothing has changed. Oat barn fucks up my intestine.
Also i eat so many crude milk yogurt and oil that i shit as regularly as a casio watch.

>larping paleo retard that buys packaged meat covered in plastic at the grocery store

Oats fuck my gut too, and I'm spaniard.
I can handle pasta and bread very well.

The literal definition of cope.

>even comparing beans with potatos or rice and bread and pasta and cereals
lmao fucking retard
beans and most legumes are the only foods that destroy peoples' guts universally

>Misled by nature
Lmao

I bought a bread making machine and i shop a german grocery store near my vocation house where they have at least 20 different flours for whole cereal bread. One of the best purchase in my life. I practucally quit wheat bread. Still cook myself pizza from time to time. And croissant, i cannot live without croissant.

On the other hand i would prefer wheat barn, but it's very seasonal and not so easy to find.

damn slam dunk

> not knowing what starch is

because it's the most cost-effective carb that lets slaves work the hardest without sacrificing much to feed them
if anything it should be an excuse to eat them because it managed to maintain people that worked literally all day every day

thisx1000
ketocucks downplaying how essential carbs are to testosterone and recovery/muscle growth piss me off

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3573976
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20091182

dis nigga eatin beans lmao

In related news, I'm going to go make some pancakes now.

No serious runner eat keto, they may eat low carb during certain period to get some adaptation , but when race time come they won't be in keto .
Ketocuck like to spout that you can't bonk on keto but it's just that you already start at the performance lvl of someone who bonked but without feeling like shit .

it would be extremely painful

Absolute bullshit

Rice, oats, and potatoes are the foundation, lads. Eat other stuff yeah, but you don't need much of it. Embrace your inner peasant, you'll feel great and have nice soft poops

Very nice SAUCE. thanks user

Not an argument, also it takes heat and/or time for (certain) plastics to leach into food.
>anthropoids have existed for 2my
>homo sapiens for 300ky

>I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast, now I'm an expert on nutrition
Your gut biome isn't just one or two strands of bacteria. Its hundreds of strands and enzymes which help you break down matter into parts you can actually digest and metabolize.

The human body is not made to digest large quantities of fiber, it never will be, and as such the majority of your gut biome isn't dedicated to breaking down fiber either.
Eating large quantities of fiber will never do anything good for you. It will only produce flatulence, and over a long enough span of time, if you maintain a high fiber diet, you will damage your GI tract.
Your gut and your gut biome are adapted to break down meat and very little fiber.
Stop getting information from fucking podcasts. Joe Rogan is a literal retard who lets any random idiot come on his show and espouse nonsense with no peer reviewed research backing it.

>468 ng/dl high carb vs 371 ng/dl high protein (which everyone knows is retarded in the first place)
LMAO let's see some studies comparing high fat diets to high carb diets in non basedified men

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actually, potatoes and rice are the best for gut health, outside veggies and fruits, as carb sources.

Are you retarded? Human hunters carried large supplies to seeds with them because they had multiple phases where they couldn’t get their hands on meat. It was a bit part of their diet.

>sugar is bad
t. mouthbreather

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Peanut butter my friend. Just make sure it's that organic shit without basedoil and excess amount of sugar. I do it on keto diet.

How much sugar should peanut butter normally have? I normally smash through 600grams of pic related. I drew a white line around sugar.

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>I normally smash through 600grams
Per week

This doesn't sound ideal. Who actually does keto for years and years?

Carbs are fine as long as they aren't refined and processed.

Peanut butter should have zero. 6 grams is a fucking travesty.

>being this much of a fiberlet

I bet you get diarrhea from lentils too.

Lentils give people diarrhea? Never heard of that and I crush a bag a week.

>Peanut butter should have zero
Prove it exists. Shops where I live sell about 12 different brands and types of peanut butter and every single one has between 5-10 grams of sugar

>gut biome
Nah cunt your genes are just shit

The average person fails to meet the 30g fiber RDA which is already insanely low. If you're not used to high fiber foods you get diarrhea/indigestion.

Fruits.

Keto is for weightloss and other conditions, if you’re shredded you need carbs because that’s what muscles feed on

For you

i thought beans were super good for you

Not me but maybe you just suck and can't pull it off

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>what are fruits
The OP says starches, not ALL carbs you mong

But muh glycogen

*posts zero sources*

>The human body is not made to digest large quantities of fiber
To help visualize this fact: Goats chew their cud to digest the grass they eat.

And they still bloat up and fart all day.

I have no sources, but you're literally just wrong.

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>eat toast for breakfast on weekend
>get depressed

its true

I used to eat A LOT of vegetables and oats, really a lot even getting 80g fiber sometimes, othera 40g and I used to puke out of the blue, always after dinner(6hours or so) I'd just feel nauseous and either puke or puke and have diahrrea.

now I just eat mostly fish and red meat, still veggies but not as much, a lot of fruit and some potatoes and/or rice for carbs seems to be better, also use some probiotics when I feel weird after eating
didn't change the foods I eat, just the doses

>I used to puke out of the blue, always after dinner(6hours or so) I'd just feel nauseous
>also use some probiotics when I feel weird after eating

You need to understand better what's going on
don't drink cold water when your stomach is working hard to digest. it will make you SICK.

this is a bacteria thread so connect your understanding of bacteria behavior. cold temperatures freeze the activity of bacteria. putting dough in a fridge stops yeast from rising it.

and I shouldn't need to explain the source of your stomachs hard work was the vegetables and oats.
tons of sugars in that, and a pH balance that will turn bacteria into madcunt super producers.

You are essentially shocking your stomach's workforces frozen.

is this a fact or am I being memed

>Starting a 30 Day Keto Reset Diet
>tomorrow

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It's funny because in the middle ages the peasants were healthier than the noblemen because the noblemen ate nothing but meat.

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A Vegan spazz is memeing at you. Drinking cold water doesn't fucking shock anything.
The human body simply can't digest a lot of fiber. Vegans long term develop IBS and have bloody shits 5x a day from super high fiber diets.

Humans can digest only a very small volume of fiber in a full 24 hour period. Any more than that just turns into gas and indigestion.