Starving

You literally cannot starve if you are overweight like pic related. You have 10s or even 100s of thousands of calories stored.

>stop eating

I’m not fat but I hate hearing this shit. You realize people get hungry right? Ask them to eat vegetables instead of “stop eating “

starving yourself : loss of muscles -> BMR goes down

you start eating again (the same way you did before) but your BMR is lower -> you gain more weight

I've been weighing myself twice daily in the morning and at night and have been starving myself, have eaten like 3 meals the last week.
Is it possible that i've lost 600g already or am i just imagining things, haven't tried losing weight before so idk what the deal with tracking weight is.

gycolysis/glycogenesis/lipogenesis is roughly 16-24 hours so weighing yourself more than that is pointless

and yes, if you eat a deficit and lose water weight you can easily lose 600 g in a couple of days

It's okay to be hungry sometimes brah

Weighing yourself at night is pointless, only weigh yourself in mornings after a poo and while naked.

No but at an extreme caloric deficit you will lose muscle mass.

Great thanks for the advice user.
Hmm what's water weight?
If I understand it correctly will my weight loss plateau eventually?

eat less, do more.
thats all you gotta do

stay in your containment /fast/ thread with other weak dyel faggots. Fasting is the express train to being weak and flabby.

Well it depends, are you going to eat more later and make up that 1000 (or more) calories? or are you going to continue to maintain the 1000 calorie deficit?

Fat makes you hungrier. Its almost or entirely parasitic. Always forcing cravings. Dont go down that slippery slope bros

Not if you're hungry because you ate 2k calories of sugar and other empty calories.

If you're hungry make sure to have something that will actually fill you and not just fulfill you.

>Eat less, less is always better.
Holy shot are you people retarded.
I recommend you and anyone who thinks like this look up the Minnesota Starvation Experiment. This was done during WWII with the goal of finding out the consequences of prolonged caloric restriction (not fasting) on the body, to see what the Americans might be dealing with in Europe trying to rebuild after the war.

They all lost plenty of weight... and plenty of muscle, became weak and lethargic and psychologically sick, and all they thought about was food. And importantly, when food became available, that is, when they began refeeding (stage 2 of the experiment if you will) they had an enormous hunger and ate huge amounts of food.

Dieting is just a faddish way to do this:
>restrict calories
>always think about food
>binge on food

So fuck your "less is always better"... a good philosophy to make people sick. At least you recommended fasting over just caloric restriction, as it's true fasting puts you into a different metabolic state, but it'll still do you in long term.

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"Will You Starve That They Be Better Fed?" was the slogan that biologist Ancel Keys used on a leaflet distributed to objectors of the war in 1944. Keys research intentions were to investigate what it would take to re-feed semi-starved Europeans that were left starved by the hostilaties. What he actually gave us was a piece of research that should of collapsed the diet industry. Sadly it goes largely ignored and to this day people still get conned by the low calorie cult. The volunteers starved on our behalf, yet we continually fail to learn from the hardship they went through.
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>Thirty Six men were selected who were all conscientious objectors to the war. They were intelligent, psychology stable and physically healthy. Importantly they were roughly weight and height (5' 10" and 75 kg) For the first 3 months of the study the men received 3200 kcals a day to standardize their intakes. After this initial period the men were dropped to 1800 kcals per day which is a figure not uncommon in many diet and fitness circles. Frequently people consider this amount to be high. Just last week we saw recommendations to cut an calories by 15-20% (no mention was made of the safe starting point). I've also had an email from a woman whose lighterlife plan took her as low 250 kcals a day. So whilst Key's considered this low, most nowadays wouldn't dare consume that much, let alone call in a diet.
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>At the same time they were expected to walk 22 miles each week (they could split this up over days and make use of treadmills or outdoors walking), and also ensure that they expended 3009 kcals, which again isn't something uncommon in todays gym obsessed world. I only have to look out of my window during the day to catch lots of women out jogging. Obviously, as you can see from the picture above, they became skeletal from the effect of this 'enforced' lifestyle. You do see some people that have the insane will power to do this but they are never well, luckily for most of us, we can't get to the extremes that the Minnesota Starvation Experiment (MSE) did. For a start, they were kept under strict lab conditions, yet we are surrounded by an abundance of food so is it any wonder we crack and can't stick to the lifestyle that weightwatchers want us to? As we're not in a lab most diets impliment behavour modification to attempt to get us to comply.
>When being starved they began to see many of the symptoms that are typical today in our low calorie, low fat, low everything world. Libedo is at an all time low which is something Max Kampelman (one of the subjects) reported, 'I can tell you, the sex drive disappeared. There was none.' I've lost count of the time I've heard clients telling me that a partner has no interest in sex, followed by bragging that they finally have them on a low calorie diet. Nobody seems to join up the dots here.
>So what can we expect to see from entering periods of low calorie diets such as 1800 kcals (LCD) and very low calorie diets (VLCD)?
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Physical changes.
• Decreased heart volume
• Slowed pulse rate (and almost certainly low body temperature and raised cortisol)
• Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) reduced by 40%. Just what you need if your concerned about weight!!
• Voluntary movements became slower. Your thyroid is regulating (slowing) your energy expenditure.
• Subjects felt and acted older

Personality Changes
• Increase in apathy and depression.
• Sensitivity to noise. The body is overloaded and doesn't have enough energy to cope.
• General feeling of ineffectiveness.
• Loss of ambition and narrowing of interests. We no doubt conserve ourselves for important actions.
• Increased neuroticism and hysteria.
• Almost 20% of the subjects suffered severe “character neuroses” and 2 bordered on both violent and hysteria psychoses.

Food obsession/disorders
• Increased interest and preoccupation with food (talking, preparing, making meals last longer using a variety of methods such as sucking food).
• Heightened craving for food. Is it any wonder when we starve ourselves.
• Became possessive about food.
• Increased gum chewing, smoking, drinking of coffee and tea, and nail biting which also links in well with increased cortisol secretion.
• Purchased useless items and/or hoarded money. Clothes, foods, shoes, handbags, I see it all.
• Some escaped and binged with feelings of guilt (some followed by vomiting)

Social Activities
• Responsiveness, tolerance, happiness, and good humor gradually disappeared, very irritable and with only sarcastic humor remaining.
• Reluctance to participate in group activities. Not wanting to go to work etc and when they do resorting to the above.
• Self-centered and egocentric
• Food central topic of conversation, such as the need to cut back, avoid fats, craving cake or chocolate and discussing it with ones friends.
• Not able to control emotions, tears, tantrums, anger are all hard to control on a LCD.

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Apparently the nigglets and niggers u see on tv look bloated because of a low protein diet or something.

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Yeah thats totally how it works, you eat 0 energy and your body calls upon the magic of the universe to make you fat.

Fasting increases hgh retard

>As with many nutrition studies it's the after effects where we see the interesting data. After the 6 month period the men were unsatisfied no matter how much they ate.
>*They regained the initial weight plus an extra 40%.*

>The men were split into 4 groups, and each of the groups received a different re-feeding calorie levels ranging from one group that was allowed to eat as much as they wanted, to the lowest group at 2200 kcals, It was noted by Keys that to fully rehabilitate the body 4000 kcals daily was necessary and that it would take this abundance of calories to restore normal function. Even supplementing with vitamins and minerals was of little use with out a great quantity of food.

Effects of Re-feeding the groups
• Still overly concerned with food which was understandable.
• Many became even more irritable and depressed and argumentative. (posssibly a reduction in adrenaline)
• Still suffering a slump in morale and lost interest in previous interests
• Thirst increased
• Hunger pains more intense
• Appetites insatiable even in the highest kcal group
• Continued to eat even when full as the body is determined to get what it can while it can (fear)
• Gained fat tissue rapidly (fat returned rather than muscle) as the body wants to protect itself and ensure it has safe reserves.
• Lean tissue recovered more slowly (lack of muscle) as its more important to store energy first in case you encounter starvation again, which most dieters do when they yo yo on and off diets.

Free access to food group
• Ate an average of 5,212 kcal a massive amount when compared to the 3200 kcals they consumed prior to starving them.
• Ate nearly continuously then slept or ate
• Slow increase of social behavior at meals
• As time passed they all felt nearly normal with food
• 10 of 14 were beginning to eating normal amounts
• Slowly humor sociability returned, we've all been grumpy when hungry haven't we???
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>Losing weight isn't about starving yourself thin, and despite what people seem to think, 1800 kcals is semi-starvation. Fat storage is an emergency response by the hormonal systems of the body to protect you from the repeated deprivations and stresses it is exposed to. Wise up and eat some food.

The full article is here:
billycraig.co.uk/blog/does-cutting-your-calories-down-work
Full paper 'They Starved So That Others Be Better Fed: Remembering Ancel Keys and the Minnesota Experiment' here:
billycraig.co.uk/uploads/6/6/5/7/6657223/human_starvation.pdf

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ALL THAT SAID AND DONE...

These people were at a normal weight when they began. If you're obese you could surely deal with some calorie restriction. But keeping your calories too low consistently is a very bad idea.

never tried onions before, is it any good

Fatties can go -1000 easily, if you are extrafat you can do 1.5k.

Its called starvation mode, those kids in africa with the big bellies are good examples, its the only thing keeping them alive

youtu.be/yHQ2FWr_2Jc

Most of you dont know jack shit about starvation.

Enjoy being catabolic as fuck on your meme 1000kcal diet

>all this effortposting
If you refeed properly once a week you replenish your leptin levels and this doesn't happen

the bloat in starving african kiddies is called kwashiorkor. It happens when you have little/no protein in your diet and aren't able to synthesize basic stuff like albumin. This causes the bloating/ascites because albumin normally gives the osmotic pressure to keep fluid in the vasculature instead of leaking out into places like the abdomen as edema.

You are the biggest retard here.

>t. piss drinker

nice jpg

the bloated africans arent bloated from fat you retards

holy shit finally someone knows his shit

>comparing people who were already thin and who kept physically active to your average fat, sedentary American