A little reminder that if you don't know how to fight you are not even near in fulfilling your potential and you will...

no you cant, you retard. No judge will say "hey, he wanted to fight you. Of course you can shoot him".

There are drunk people who are searching for trouble. Just because you dont want to fight doesnt mean that other people dont want to.
And who is talking about BJJ. Just learn some boxing and wrestling. Easy to learn and helps in nearly all situations.

we literally have a law called "stand your ground" you absolute coping faggot lmfao

sure, get you rfacts right, you shoot someone because of a slap/punch? you are gonna go to jail.

>an bjj blue belt could kill you in a few seconds if he was serious about it, i know bjj is am meme here but it is an hard sport where learn to kill and to seriously injure others.
and who said something about only training bjj? a good boxer can fuck up multiple at once. it only takes one punch you know.

it takes only one punch to break your bare fist

Do we need this thread every single Day?

these 230lbs bench press pussys will never understand

Yes, why not?

If I wanted to fight someone I'd probably also want to kill them. Guns work just fine.

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because you got btfo in the first 2 posts?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
>Euroretard education

>8 years wrestling experience
>2 years bjj experience
>had to move to the middle of nowhere for work
>only gym around is taekwondo place

I mean I guess I could learn how to do some kicks, but just how useful is TKD?

you are right there are fighters who have "brittle" hands and get easily injured without gloves and ofc because of their punching power. but these guys just make a different kind of fist.
and there are other options, knees, elbows, kicks for example.

No idea, but a bit of striking would be nice to round out your skillset.

It's pretty good. Not as good as Muay Thai, BJJ, or Boxing, but still better than nothing.

ye, but this will only work when the evidence situation is perfectly clear, if not and the family of the one killed has a good lawyer, you have a good chance of a huge fine or even jail.

Not that useful, but you will learn kicks. Not a martial art for grown men though, and no sparring at all pretty much.

I think so too, but I have always been under the impression that TKD is a glorified board breaking "art" with very few applications in fighting.

better than nothing, and you will get agile as fuck.

so he takes your gun and shoots you with it. or he knocks you out before you can draw. or he chokes you unconscious and then shoots you. or he has a knife and even if you shoot him you're fatally stabbed. or etc

>wants to kill a man over small disputes

Faggots like you are a disgrace. For centuries men have been honorably competing with each other to settle disputes ("dueling", so to say), very rarely with the goal of killing the other party. You truly are not a man.

Even rattlesnakes don't use their venom when they fight over females, they just wrestle, they don't want to kill each other. Look it up. A fucking snake understands more about being a man than you.

as soon as he makes an aggressive move he's dead.

COPE

HARDER

you know, there are so many situations where you have to stand your ground and be a men without the possibility of shooting someone.

such as?

You can only use a gun if the person who jumps you is capable and intent on killing you. If they're just throwing punches, you can only respond with equal use of force. Otherwise you will get into legal trouble.

literally completely incorrect. stop pretending you know the law lol

idk man, you are on a party and somebody picks a fight with you, or at work or at a club or the train/bus or you are on the way to some place with your mom or your gf and some punk comes near you and insults you or or or.

>he insulted me so I'll punch him
literally africa tier

How often in life do you fight? What, do you live in a third world country? Other than being in some fist fights as an angsty teenager your life will have zero physical encounters. Unless you're an asshat that's just looking for it, case in which you'll get in trouble with the law. Fucking grow up.

yeah, because shooting someone because he slaps you is so much better... kek

Also experienced fighters will do anything to avoid a fight
OP brags so much about martial arts yet he obviously has little to no experience

well i am doing muay thai, so i am in fights multiple times a week. on the street not so much anymore, still, it's nice to know that i know how to defend myself if it becomes necessary.

Look up "Proportional Response." Although it depends what state you live in.

>obviously has little to no experience
ofc not. :)

Well, you can have experience in martial arts while having little to no experience in self defense.
Self-defense isn't fighting, it's avoiding fights and sketchy situations. Fighting is a last resort.

The most dangerous men in the world are not the MMA champions or the guys who can deadlift 300kg.

It's pic related. And guess what, he is weal, he does not know how to throw a punch. He does not know how to wrestle. He just can stab you on the back without feeling anything.

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fine, than i have no experience in self defense but plenty in fighting and this is totally fine in my book.
but how much experience do you have?

Im not an experienced fighter, I'm an old highschool wrestler who has done just enough other stuff to get by, but I love fighting. It's a reasonably common thing here to fight recreationally, and I enjoy doing it. Obviously theis is different from self defense, but I got a knife in my pocket and a gun in my truck for that.

Do you really not fight recreationally?

I'm ok at boxing so that's enough for now

well i would not fight against the champion or go into the hood where these guys live. but the guy who can dl 300kg can suck my dick, whats he gonna do?

Well, it's not an easy thing to quantify unless you're in constant danger like a prison guard. But I've never had to fight despite being in sketchy situations.
A good site to learn about this sort of thing is www.nononsenseselfdefense.com

don't need it, i know i can knock people out, i know that a can take a beating and i know that i am not afraid to go the distance and stand my ground.
but you can't really understand what i am talking about anyway, until the day comes where this sweet little website will not help you.

Who said anything about killing?

Hes going to gas in 45 seconds.

I take BJJ just in case haha. But I consider it more for fun than anything. I would rather not risk the various things that can go wrong during a fight if I don't have to.

>implies that a sucker who can dl 300kg is one the same level as an mma champion or some real g*s.

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The ONLY way to be ready for a fight, both recreational and self defense, is to train. No amount of youtube videos and self defense websites will help you after that first hook scrambles your brain and you revert to muscle memory. This is why you see so many people freeze up in a fight, their brain is turned off and their body has no idea what to do.

this.

Everybody has a plan until they get jabbed in the head - Muhammed ali

I'm not talking about fighting though. I'm talking about self-defense. 99% of fights can be avoided.

I used to do martial arts when I was at school, and left it bc of my studies
I'm not really interested in coming back

So much insecurity in a single thread. Fot being a board that call themselves Jow Forums, you lot sure are a bunch of bitches.

Valid, but you may not always have your gun at every moment. In some states it might be close to impossible to get one. You'll always have your hands available to fight with though.

>what is bone conditioning
People who use guns are bitches. Simple as that. You are a bitch, a pussy, a beta that can't do anything without his little pea shooter.
A man without pride is no man at all.

>pull gun out
>shoot the guy
>bullet just bounces off of him
Uh oh, what now, faggot?
It's all about "muh gun" until you meet a genetic mutant on the street.

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Dude if it's a passion and you enjoy it fucking go for it. But don't come in here with this "it's a vital skill to have in life" bullshit. But if you and some other dudes wanna gather around once a week and punch your lights out good on you bud, have at it.

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i like this post

What are you, a nigger?

>pulls a gun on someone who punches him
have fun either
a) shooting him and very likely getting jail time
or
b) escalated the situation and are seen by the people around you as a crazy fucker who draws at the slightest sign of trouble

it's called common sense you idiot

>stand your ground laws constitute you shooting someone when your life, someone else's life, or your property is obviously not in danger
>"hurr I can just shoot anyone who fucks with me :))))"
thats not how stand your ground laws work dumdum

not only is there bone hardening, but also a broken fist doesnt stop someone from still beating the shit out of you. I had a friend who was jumped by one moron with a baseball bat. he punched him in the face 5 times. on the first second swing with his right he felt his hand cripple and broke one of his metacarpal. he kept punching with that hand 3 more times and ended up breaking the guys orbital and upper jaw

>Rambo complex: the thread
Yeah, guys like you at any Muay Thai gym I've gone to are a riot

>Mosqitoe lands on your arm
>pull out a bazooka and blast it off
>ez
Guns are the ultimate self-defense, no point even arguing that. But if it's the only solution you have, you're worse off than you think. Not only do you have high risk high reward means to solve problems, but ironically you start to see it as the only valid solution to conflicts.

If you don't know how to fight at all, you start to see less serious situations as dangerous ones. You're also carrying all this stress in your body, thinking any confrontation will turn into a lethal one. I don't think this is a healthy way to about, mate.
Also, buying guns ins't an option in Europe.

>No judge will say "hey, he wanted to fight you. Of course you can shoot him".
They say that shit all the damn time, retard. No one has a right to hurt you, even if all they wanted was a fist fight, but you ALWAYS have the right to defend yourself. Getting your chinned tipped and falling to the concrete after you get knocked out can caused permanent damage or death. Hitting someone in the head with a closed fist is considered assault with intent to cause great bodily harm or intent to kill in literally 50/50 states.

You fucking retarded manchildren who think squaring up and boxing is what real men do are jackasses. You're literally taking the chance of killing someone over words 99/100. You're animals that deserve to be treated like the subhumans you are.

>wants to get into a fist fight over a small dispute
Hitting someone in the head with a closed fist is considered assault with intent to cause great bodily harm or intent to kill in 50/50 states, since it is so easy to do exactly that by punching someone.

Faggots like you who want to box people because of "small disputes" like words or some asinine concept of honor are the disgrace. It's juvenile and animalistic.

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>tfw you will never be as high test as don Frye was

>punch your lights out
that's not what we do

>Mfw could heem every1 in this thread

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>they don't lift to become physically strong and at the same time train on how to use a gun.

>this thread

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Be honest here. You are all just coping for your inability to fight. There are plenty of situations where you don't carry a gun. In truth, to became a decent man, you must not limit yourself to one thing only. Lifting increases your strength to help you in your daily tasks and you'll look better. Combat sports will develop you as a man. You'll gain confidence and toughness, and any man when stripped to his basics should be able to defend himself in any physical altercation. Get comfortable with firearms. When things are really bad, these are the most powerful weapons an individual can possess.