How many loners here?

I have lived the social + gf life before, for several years, and I cant go back to it.
Those years were very unproductive - all my thoughts centered around social status, sex, and whatever drama was unfolding with the crew. I learned things in those years, so they werent wasted, but in terms of money and goals, I was hopelessly spinning my wheels. Living like that you eventually lose the girl anyway and begin to hate your friends.

Now at 25, its very difficult to find anyone who is working as hard as me, but also has time for a beer or a golf game. I think this is normal though. Everyone becomes more isolated as they enter working life and the grind. Most other people are viewed as inconveniences, and friendships are kept at arms length, especially if theirs a partner/kids in the picture.

So yes, I am alone nearly always. I mostly like it, not getting laid or having someone to chat to can be frustrating at times though.

oh yeah i ostracize myself because im an autist as well. but i also like, intentionally ostracize myself by keeping my personal life hidden. i tell my normie coworkers zero about myself. even had one tell me "user how do you expect to have friends if you dont tell anyone anythinga bout you"

It's getting better. Focusing on myself is starting to mean more money and higher income since I get a lot of my social interaction from my second job.

Introverts are powerful, moreso than they often realize. But these things must be in balance.

I have no friends.

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>Introverts are powerful
How so?

It's neat.

This. I've debated hiring a hooker but don't want STDs. And my hand is cheaper.
Prostitution should be legal.

Comfy af.
Have a variety of circles of friends of whom I barely keep in touch with but whenever we catch up it feels like we spend years together in a few minutes.
When I'm in a low mood I'll meditate or drop acid, keep on going.
life is good

I will soon be making 80k+ a year. Only a high school degree under my belt, mid 20s. Not letting social status, sex, or drama tie you down makes you pretty powerful too. Assuming you're not being a depressed cunt about it.

its good. used to bug the shit out of me but i grew out of it.

More free time and save a lot of money by being loneny

Solitude, after a period of being extroverted, is great. It's only lonely if you let it be. Keep several small, close-knit circles of friends with whom you'd trust your life, and keep tight with your family, and really that's all you'll need. Focusing on yourself, your health, and your goals is a freedom a lot of people don't enjoy when they're too busy pulling themselves in twenty different directions. It also gives you a lot of time for introspection so that when the time comes to settle down, you'll know exactly what you're looking for and will have had some time to build up your own value.

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What industry? Is it comfy? My current job is super comfy but caps out at like 35k/year. Spend 99% of my work day alone in a workshop but that's just the way I like it.

Life with no one is great, you have no worries about other people.

Life with lots of people is great, you already have people to spend time with and meeting more people is easy since you already do stuff.

Life somewhere between having no one and having some people is torture as you spend every day trying to get more friends and having to worry about how you achieve that.

Take the no pill, have no one.

Support/IT. Started help desk and somehow ended up with an engineer title.
I'm only at 52k a year currently. My current job is very stressful and high paced, but with the skills I learned I got this other job I start in a few weeks. That is going to be a comfy job for sure.

I'll be working 100% remote. So my home and job is now anywhere with an internet connection. Very excited.

>Spend 99% of my work day alone in a workshop but that's just the way I like it
What do you do user? That sounds like paradise

I've been isolated for three years. I had a cat but he died a horrible slow death as I tried everything I could to save him; that really fucked me up. I became isolated because I left all my friends to pursue my dream (had a real chance), but I was physically injured and that was that.
I had no interest in girls, I devoted everything in my life to training. Now I still have no interest in girls, but it's because I'm young and I don't know what I want out of a woman, plus I have unconventional political opinions which doesn't exactly make things easier. I also have a pretty wicked case of phimosis so I don't want to have sex, I don't mind the phimosis but maybe I'm in hardcore cope.
I spend my free time on exercise, reading, or browsing Jow Forums. I watch movies and tv sometimes but not very often. My family is full of fuckups and I'm butthurt to this day that my best chance at success was ripped out from under me. Sometimes I get really angry about it but it subsides very quickly.
I became a lot more political in my solitude, read history&philosophy, created a general plan to develop my worldview. I go for runs sometimes and I really like seeing the bird formations fly over me, really makes me happy to be alive, I told someone this once and I regret it. I became interested in genealogy and I've made some progress on that front, but I feel like a lot of people are trying to destroy what my forefathers helped build; it makes me mad sometimes, or sad, but mostly I'm just resigned to the fact that I can't change it and the best I can do is help elevate other guys IRL, once I'm finished elevating myself. Sometimes I wish that there was a righteous war to fight, but I don't even know if I would enlist. I hope I would, and it's part of why I stay active, but I don't know.
I wouldn't describe myself as lonely, I'm satisfied with life whenever I'm progressing. Sometimes I have no self-improvement and I feel down in the dumps.

So that's what it's like for me.
>pic related

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You sound pretty fucking cool besides the possible race war Jow Forums thing you have going on.

You don't get >tfwnogf feels when you're truly alone because you have no real image of what you're missing as you don't really interact with anyone. Women become m ore of an abstract concept and a tool for relieving sexual frustration. It's a peaceful existence.

Now being forced to go out into the real world and interact with people and then falling for a girl but fucking it all up because chronic social isolation has stunted your communication skills and ability to relate to others, yeah boy. That's hell. Welcome to my life

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>blames perceived lack of success on family
>admits he spends all his free time on Jow Forums and youtube

maybe do something fucking productive with your time and you might actually accomplish something? nah fuck that, easier to complain online about what a victim you are.

Ive been dabbling in it. This summer my work and school are remote, so unless someone seeks me out I don’t really interact with the couple hundred people I have been for the past 2 years.

It’s nice when you’re inspired. When no one is there to bother you with your work. But because no one is there, personally, I have trouble being dedicated to something without an external force. I’ll read the first 60 pages of a book but go back to watching YouTube. I’m trying to reimplement routine. That may solve the problem.

It’s also hard not having anyone to share little things with. I just made a really nice Mac and cheese, but no one to share it with.

I'm actually pretty great with socializing and can hold a good convo and enjoy it but just don't like going out with people bc it usually ends up at bars or restaurants and I'm a cheap bitch or find young people fucking boring

You misunderstood me. I don't blame my family for anything. I'm an only son and I wanted to help my father retire early, but I lost my best opportunity to make enough money for that to happen. I'll likely find success in the near future, I think.

its great not even coping. i have friends that are also autists like me.

i hear a lot about "not being a boring person" to appeal to people. is it possible to be a boring person in your personal life but absolutely not boring in interacting with people and still appeal to them?

like for me, im a shut in in my personal life, but if i do say so myself im not boring at all in my interactions with people, in fact i think im pretty entertianing

Being lonely ain't that bad if you learn how to handle it, I mostly work on my body, my mind and my goals but before I left humanity behind (rip rich) I was very depressed and constantly craving attention/love, this can all be cured with the right mindset but sometimes I still wonder how life could be if I did things differently

Peaceful, that’s what. It bothers me that so many failed extroverts come here and believe they’re in good company.

I go where I want and do as I please. Nothing and nobody keeping me tied anyway.

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>sounds like paradise
To me, it is. I mostly restore and sell vintage/antique stuff on ebay. Profits vary, currently averaging about $12/hr over the month. I love it though, the constant variety of stuff tickles my autism and I work whenever I feel like it. Also working on setting up a few 3d printers and decal-printing machines to start making custom stuff. I'm pretty poor but super comfy desu

comfy af

The casual loner is a beta male who does not know how society works so he is a loner not by choice.

Then there's the hardened loner who leaves society because he seems to have found some things that irk him, or don't sit well with him. This is the butt hurt loner, and just needs to grow a pair and accept things for the way they really are and get back at it

The final loner is the loner we all wish we could be, the loner who leaves society voluntarily in order to dedicate himself to a higher cause, which will benefit society in the end. Truth be told this type of loner chooses this life more often than not for narcissistic reasons, but they have latent altruistic functions. However this loner pays a heavy toll, which comes with long periods of detachment from society, since man was meant to be a social animal and thrive in society.

Holy fedora, nice outline for your own agendas

fuck no I'm studying to be a doctor, and trying to get a hot grill. I have a friend who once told me all he wants to do is go to a mountain top with the top quantum physics books and spend a couple of years with em all until he finishes (he's a physics grad/phd student). I think that's cool as fuck

I got out of a two year relationship with a borderline girl four months ago. I haven't dated since and feel no need to. I fucking appreciate being alone so much more now. Can honestly say I finally feel some peace of mind now. It's not gonna last fotever, and sooner or later I will try another relationship, but I love my solitary life now
>making money
>reading
>working out
>gaming
>meditating
>yoga twice a week where I have to actually decline girls attempts to date
>decorating my place
>actually taking the time to cook/bake/prepare real breakfasts, lunches and dinner for myself which has become a genuine hobby
>keeping my place and myself spotless
Feels really good

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You have to go back.

It's great. I don't enjoy speaking and I generally don't ever talk except for the very few times that I'm forced to interact with grocery store clerks because self checkout machine broke. Currently I've had a good streak of 17 days speechless. My current job is on an assembly line, so there's no need to verbally communicate and if there ever was, half the people lost most of their hearing anyways, so there's no point.

I entertain myself with philosophy books in my spare time and drink if I feel nervousness left over from work day which is maybe once or twice a fortnight. The rare opportunities where I do interact with people, they quickly realise something is wrong with me and retreat with caution. I find small talk excruciating mentally, so that leaves me to discuss something beyond the realm of their comfort. They generally like talking about people, I only find use in discussing ideas and concepts, theories and other things of that nature.

I wish there was a chatroulette or omegle just for discussing things like how machine learning will affect societies, to what extent the strides in feminism has directly affected the radical change in male behaviors over the past decades, whether or not creativity holds significant relevance in art forms, and things of that nature.

shit
don't have future

I always like to think of small talk as a very complex game of skill. Being able to read another person, not just for what they are saying, but how they say it, and making judgements on their backstory and ideology based on a very small amount of data available. It's really interesting to get a person to tell their whole life story or personal philosophy in a short amount of time without revealing information about one's self.

But I guess this would be more a discussion on the "concepts, theories and other things" on small talk rather than small talk itself.

Weird. I guess I'm only semi-solitary, because I still have pals at work and school and i have a gf, but all my time without them is alone. I just kinda giggle about what I want, laugh at my phone, mire myself, play with my veins, take photos of stuff with my camera.

I only ever really wanna spend time with a handful of folks, but I'm used to getting blown off by everyone besides my gf so I just kinda do stuff on my own anyway.

The concept of extracting information from small talk is interesting, and in theory it would be great to hold regular and frequent trials, but applying it irl is beyond dull.

You sound a lot like me. I'm also an only child
The only differences being:
>I'm a dog person
>I lopped my foreskin off in highschool because of severe phimosis (no, I don't regret it, despite the jews)
>I've spent most of my post-highschool life in various relationships
I liked what you said about finding a just cause to fight for. It spoke to me. Basically how I've felt for awhile, but didn't know how to say it.

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>tfw broke mic and can't talk to online friends.

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Me too.
>moved to isolated country town where everyone knows each other from school.
>late 20's
>no one goes out in this town for above reason
>do nothing but lift and read to better myself
>planning to move back to civilisation
>hates civilisation
halp me

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This is me Just wondering what you hoped to find moving out of the city and why you've now decided to move back?
Leaving the city (the northern Californian shithole I was born in) has always been a vision of mine. I'd just like to hear from somebody who's done it.

Define loner? I don't know if I qualify anymore. I have one real life friend - he's an ex-Chad turned agoraphobic hikki. I chill with him every now and then and talk shit about everything Japan. Have a GF and a group of bros I've known for a decade, we've hung out a couple times at cons or vidya "events"
The rest of the time when the girl isn't around I'm pretty alone. I don't think I qualify right?

>The final loner... leaves society voluntarily in order to dedicate himself to a high cause..., which comes with long periods of detachment..., since man was meant to be a social animal.
It's a journey. You start out fairly naive, with the intention of making a positive impact. Slowly, over time, you begin to realize that regardless of what you believe, you have to operate within a system designed around socialization. Social interactions bring with them bureaucracy, and ultimately, roadblocks to your work. That can lead to a mixed bag of personality traits developing, depending on how you internalize your experiences.

Devoting yourself to a cause is like any other aspect of life. You have to have the ability to evolve based on your experiences and realize that even if your cause is worthwhile, you will never be able to see it through independently solely based on how "just" it might be. Seems obvious, though oddly contradictory when discussing a "higher cause," but even a good cause requires resources to accomplish.

I wish I had friends

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Honestly I just don’t like anyone but me

Jesus dude. You just outed yourself as an 18 year old

Friendship is overrated. You don’t need friends. Friends make you weak. Live for yourself, love only yourself. And then you’ll achieve true power.

lmfao

this fucking guy lol

youtube.com/watch?v=sMmTkKz60W8

i want a nice comfy life on by a good countryside.
not sure if theres an comfy countrysides left in the U.S and also not entirely sure what job would fit this

Don't. You'll regret it. It's like suicide, when 100% of suicide survivors have regretted it. I've once been very close to lose my virginity to an escort and I was actually on my way to the place when it hit me how disgusting it is and how shameful. I've killed all thoughts of hiring escorts since then. Now worth it my man.

ymmv, but in a similar point of time in my life I had an acid trip with my bros for the weekend instead and it was one million times more beautiful than sex with any person has been since.
Trip made one night stands, and really just a lot of different types of people, extremely unattractive for me

I'm not a virgin but I haven't had sex in 7 years or so.

It's not so bad. The few friends I still have are genuine and care about me. I tell people I work with "being lonely is the worst, but being alone is the best". Maybe it's dumb, but I like that saying. Not having anyone to really care for is hard, I miss my family. But, it is what it is. Maybe one day it will change, but being solitary lets me pursue my goals.

I couldn't be alone if I wanted to, Im trying to be a hermit in Alaska, but my friends in another state gave me a call a little bit ago, they met up and wanted to call me, really special to have good friends like that.

Holy shit I kow this feel. Except for me it's been years. Every day with her was emotionally taxing beyond belief, to the point where once it was over I was so happy to be single that I've stayed that way for 4+ years.

I moved out because I wanted change and it was getting worse. Now the more I return to visit friends, the less I want to move back. But being in a small town is so different in terms of meeting new people

>move to another country at 13
>no one at the new school wanted to interact with me
>haven't socialized with anyone since I was 13
>haven't celebrated my birthday since I was 13
>people at school would call me an asshole behind my back even though I have literally never spoken to anyone
>this made me cold and caused me to develop trust issues
>girls would hit on me but I rejected them all the time because I thought they were pranking me
>my reputation is completely ruined at school and the city I am living in
>this continues until I am 19
>tfw I am bitter af because I wasted all my youth lonely
>tfw lifting is the only thing going on in my life

when will the pain end bros?

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>been alone pretty much my entire life. i dont even have tfwnogf feels
Yup, i simply dont care enough, probably will die as khv, but whatever.

I legit developed twitches, spasms and hairloss during my relationship with a borderliner. It's stressful beyond words over such a long period of time.

As soon as I got out I felt this sense of peace coming over me. All my twitched and spasms have gone, and my barber has actually commented on my hair growing back.

I feel you bro, I really do

you sound pretty autistic

fuck this board

I think I am one...but I dont want to be? Its just weird in a way. I have been doing this Jow Forums thing for over 5 years now, good food, healthy lifestyle, no vices of sorts...so I thought "well if I am not doing it, it means that I dont have to accept people who are doing it" and then went on through life. Through work specifically where I have to deal with these kinds of people.

The thing with those people is that some of them are nice enough, not spectacular of sorts but just nice to talk to sometimes. A few, small things in common perhaps, so I had to re-adjust myself a little bit to be less hateful of them.

But then vacation comes up and I am reminded again how that hate is actually reasonable. I enter some running competition, or return to a club which I quit because of an injury and I can only see healthy, pro active, and people full of energy. Its quite a disconnect of sorts and I cant seem to find a reasonable ethic. Because it feels like that making friends is a conscious effort. You have to try to do trouble to get to know a person, think about their circumstances in life...but if you yourself think that they are shit and not worth a bother...those thoughts never happen.

Even at the gym I consciously remember ALL of the regulars, their programs and divide them from "hypertrophy lifting for girls fags" to "rippletits routiners/strenght" and to "weird but somewhat functional dudes who are kinda cool" to the misc. dudes. And basically am friendly and decide who to talk to based of categories...am I evil for doing this I wonder?

"well if I am not doing it, it means that I dont have to accept people who aren't doing it"

shit fixed sage

>ex-Chad turned agoraphobic hikki.
whats the story behind this?

What jobs can be done alone?

>I've debated hiring a hooker

I also did but I wonder what would happen if it ever came out. Like my employer found out or my family. The former worries me more than the latter if I'm honest. Prostitution is legal where I live btw.

>having a gf
Need I say more?

Ive been working 60h weeks with pretty weird shifts all year now. Whatever free time I have I spend on working out and cooking, so the only social interactions I have are with my gymbuddy and my coworkers. Lost contact with friend group from HS almost entirely within just 1 year.

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>make multiple accounts of social media, come to this site
>fucking lose it some times
>delete everything, destroy electronics, clean my room, sanitize everything (alcohol, etc)
>don't talk to anyone for months
>repeat cycle
Longest I've gone without talking to anyone is about 4 months I think. I had to get a retail job because I was running out of money and other times other people force themselves into my life. My "highest" moment I had 3 friends and a gf. It didn't feel right so I just got rid of them.
Fitness related: I've found that it's a lot easier if I pretend I'm alone when I'm lifting. Otherwise I feel like everyone is staring and I completely forget about form and pushing myself. It helps to dance/talk to myself, that way I trick myself into believing I'm comfortable

Why the fuck is this board constantly being raided this week by robots? Don't you fuckers have your own board to go an shit up without having to shit up everywhere else?
You guys are like the San Francisco homeless population, you just dump your bags of shit in everyone's streets.

I'm finally gonna move out of my parents' house this year and move into a small house up in the mountains/country near the farm I work on. Just gonna be me and the nature, I get to fix up the house, do yard stuff and just be alone and relax.

sounds oddly comfy desu

>I also have a pretty wicked case of phimosis
This can be fixed though, by slowly and with lube trying to jerk off I think. Keep at it and eventually it will work. If it doesn't you can always get JEWED, nothing wrong with circumsisson for medical reasons.