Why does normie society demonize a fit lifestyle?

They're unhappy with their lives. You are simply someone doing all the things they know they should be doing, and I'm sure you have the physique to show it. So they're gonna shit on you and all the healthy things you do to cope, in other worlds they will never have what it takes to do this seams things. And they only seem happy because they are sheep and are told they should be

Ignore this, it's bad advice

>>"he eats so healthy dude, I never see him drink either"
>"I think he might be a bitch dude"
>>"He doesn't do anything, what a fucking prude

And you didn't walk out and say "wassup pussies?"

This is actually good advice. Even if you don't want to drink, you need to be able to loosen up around them just to show in some way you're not uptight. Even just once, and they would see you can chill out as well as stay focused, and then perhaps learn to respect your focus and discipline.

broken people can't stand to see normal people. It literally destroys their day. That's why gypsyes for instance can't leave a place they stay atunvandalized ur not dirty,

>How do I know you're an American?
pls help burgerland is collapsing under its own weight

do they? i thought that being fit is cool now. literally everyone goes to the gym now.

before the world hated you, it hated me

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t. Roomate

The path of righteousness faces opposition.

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crabs are everywhere op, keep walking the path

This. Thread should've ended here

this
why wouldn't you confront them for talking shit behind your back you fucking pussy

Is it not the most difficult thing for a fit human to go through? I mean, I can very easily argue about stats on the body, of those people in the past, of healthy societies and the people now. I can go to sports events and get similar levels of admiration, even socialness from them, and give some to them in return...

But the human social brain, it always tries to fit in, it always tries to reason "the social stuff that I see around me right now, must have significant, because everyone is doing it" and the novel thoughts, the statistics, the other places...they are not NOW and thus you start to ponder.

They obviously always try to downplay healthiness. They always do. One of the most annoying arguments that they had was "well you are only part time, if you worked a full time work week like us you wouldnt have the time" AND THE MOST DELICIOUS THING THAT I HAD IS WHEN I HAD THEIR SAME WORKWEEK. CONTINUED TO EAT HEALTHY. EVEN AT WORK. AND EVEN GOT A FEW NEW PR's. I didnt even go to the gym full time, like 3 times a week perhaps. Bad sleep, but good food and good everything else.

So yea. I think that I can safely say that the normies have zero excuses, their lives, their work, their habits...they are 100% pure garbage. I can do the same as they do and still maintain a fit lifestyle. I have more willpower than them. They are weak, and I am not. Fuck you no...well not normies. There are sports dudes in other places in normie ville who think the same...so fuck you saggy shitbags. Fucking one day flies with limited lifespans. I hope most of you fucking kys already.

Not OP but why should I give a fuck what those normies think? What difference does it make if they think I'm self-centered and irrational for valuing health and fitness over drunken partying and """socializing""""""?

Fuck them. As long as OP is happy then he is under no obligation to do their social dance.

74% of Americans are obese or overweight

does it count in that % if you weight 1kg more than you should

Not even remotely true, numbers are at most 66%

solid advice. no need to get drunk or stay out til 2 am but having a beer and shooting the shit for an hour won't kill your gains.

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Basic coping mechanism
They don't have the willpower to be healthy so they say that being healthy is for losers

because the only thing that matters in life is your relationships with other people.

Do a computer science study. I am one of the few ~30 that look normal and ~8 that look fit of the 120 in my year devided over 3 classes that looks somewhat healthy. I sleep well eat well dont drink and don't smoke. And most are judgeing me.

Why does he prepare his lunch? While they shove 6 pices of white bread with Nutella in there face.

Eeuuu.... He does not pull all nighter since he wants to get his sleep.

He always wants to go home and have a proper meal instead of taking the student way and eating nuts and chips as diner.

In my opinion they are missing out on the energy, confidence and you know not looking like a fat fuck that you get from lifting.

are crabs a meme or something?

Do you really want to have relationships with people who will judge your for your lifestyle?

Crab mentality, fellow.

it's all in how you frame it bro. you shouldn't make it seem like you are uptight

And Jow Forums doesn't judge normies for their lifestyle...

the roommates in OP are judging him for being an automaton. if he were fit but could also grab a beer and be social they wouldn't be judging him. They live together so they are a pack, and OP is refusing to even minimally engage with the pack because he is too anal retentive.

tldr of course you should try to have good relations with your roommates

OP here, gonna confront them and soak in the looks on their faces today

>He always wants to go home and have a proper meal
user... stop lying to yourself

good decision and good luck

it's too late idiot. you have to do it in the moment or you a sneaking little worm

You are right, but is also right, and while a degree of compromise makes sense in relationships, you shouldn't have to sacrifice everything you think is important for it. You should be maintaining relationships with people who want to build you up and be built up themselves, not people who wallow in mediocrity and want to take you down with them. The best people to surround yourself with are people who know how to self-reflect. This requires you to self-reflect as well and know when it's time to relax and concede, but it shouldn't become 100% of your identity.

they talk shit behind my back but I'm the sneaking worm.. sure

This. The true friends I do have both in my hometown and and at my college know what's important to me, things like self-care and exercise. They would never be surprised nor judgmental about me prioritizing those things in certain situations and know to expect to see me loosen up in others.

>u need to drink to be fun
Nah, don’t not even a glass. Be social tho, play games with them and talk with them about some funny shit, then they will still like you and respect your decision to not drink. Remember, you can still be a fun person without drinking

you thought the redpill ended with adam and eve eating the apple?

its all around you, redpill with the gym, you'll see how bad a normal lifestyle really is

the redpill possibilities are boundless

the blind cannot see

You're talking shit behind their backs to internet strangers fuckass. Just ignore it and find some new friends that care about themselves the way you do.

Crab mentality, happens everytime someone starts improving in any field, being lifestyle, academia, sports, job...

That or maybe you are indeed a pretentious bitch, that also happens. Some people.not only require to improve, they desperately need for others to comment and praise them

where can one find such nice friends? I tried to do that but it seems that no matter what, there is just no desire in anyone outside to improve. I am not entirely sure what it is but most of them have this sneer, completely ungrounded, they cannot even tell to me about it, yet they look at me and say "well you have no friends, and dont spend your weekend boozing, thats why I wont be your friend" even though on pretty much all aspects they are worse than me, which I could measure. They even look at me and how I treat other people, how I avoid them, and comment on how "unsocial" I am quite often.

Equality, such a horrible concept it is, and some nations have it worse than others. To find an other individual who is just capable of not giving tacit approval: nice example (youtube.com/watch?v=FviaEY1yXjM) is quite horrible.

I barely counted the people who were strong resist this status quo on one hand, and many of them were just uninterested still in being friends (since some of them had families and were fulfilled already it seemed)

srsly, what a shit nation and shit people there are here (Somewhere in Europe)

Join a hobby/sport where people gain/use the same values as you.
Join a martial art, it's a good way to find bros from all walks of life. I'm not saying join to make friends, but it's a good way to find some camaraderie as an adult.

Companies can make a lot of money off of people who eat a lot with lots of health problems

They aren't my friends and never were. Roommates for three months (six weeks of which I spent traveling) which is why they never even got to know me. Sad that with such little effort and connection that they would write me off. Not to say I wasn't complicit in not become their friends, but I also never back stabbed them to anyone.

It's a hard thing to be treated like a freak and still give new people the benefit of the doubt but you have to do it. Until they prove to you, as most will, that they will drag you down to feel better about themselves the first chance they get, you have to give them a chance. The ones that stick are the ones you keep around.

Good point user, I expected perhaps some berating! I am already returning to one sports club, got some small talk in the gym, and thinking of picking up another club still. But the funny thing is, I actually managed to find the "elite pricks" that I often see here, who shit on machines, on the non standard routines, also in the gym, in the form of the ones who attempt to power lift, many of them know of rippletits. So yea, I just wish to lament, it is usually a woman who comes into this thread and starts fucking going on endless tirades on how we must conform. So sick and tired of that really. It just happens so rarely these days to find another person on the outside who has a similar dislike of the sick and frail (by their own choice)

you refuse to even minimally engage with the pack. they have reason to voice concerns about you.

>as most will, that they will drag you down to feel better about themselves the first chance they get

christ, this has happened quite a lot of times to me. And conversely...I also met a few non jealous ones who were sick and frail who did not try to bring me down, thanks to them perhaps I desired to be more moderate. But they are so rare. I went exactly into your idea, to that of "chance giving" but christ, still, I reflect back and I see so few of them, barely one out of 10, probably even less. Such a shit society we live in really.

Jow Forumslet pussy user is cute don't bully!
But seriously, call them out on their bullshit.

you're such a pretentious cunt. the reason they are talking about you is because you refuse to open up and be social with them. and you have the nerve to say they are the ones at fault for not getting to know you?

Except that isn't true. I have a tight circle of friends and keep others at arms length while being respectful to all. If "the pack" are people I've known for three months and will never see again, and I can be judged for not wasting away my gains on these people who clearly held dislike for me anyway, then so be it.

quite literally just said I held some blame for not getting to know them better. And in hindsight I'm glad I didn't.

Still the majority

and that majority is also sedentary (also extends to non obese people), a lot of them smoke, may have high blood pressure, may have pre-beetus, beetus or something else still. Their sick days are about 4X as much compared to a healthy person (who eats well and exercises). A minority (?) of them drinks, boozes on weekends, depending on nation also uses soft/hard drugs (more opiates for the US, weed for europe?)

The chance of them getting something like Alzheimer, cancer and a bunch of other nasty problems is also probably near 5x times (really rough generic estimate). A majority of them doesnt even read books, something above 90%. Most of the young to middle generations do not marry, or if they marry, their divorce rate is near 50% (less so for the US? More so for Europe?)

A large part of them doesnt even have a cash reserve, as I remember that there are many people who have less than a thousand bucks stored up. (sadly I am one of them, but trying to get better financially). So what do they do in life? They dont sport, they eat unhealthy foods, they booze on weekends, spend their money on hedonism (parties and drugs?), they dont really make children, they dont really read anything, they dont even try to develop themselves further often? I mean, how many of them try to get a better education, maybe look for better jobs? Try to find better means to earn more and spend less perhaps?

So if you are not one of these people, and your goals are not like of one of them, and you do not wish to die an early death like they do, why should you respect them or try to walk alongside them just to get their approval?

and to be even more autistic about it all, for those who care, I tried to put value, time and...maybe even money to some of those aspects?:

>healthy eating habits
It took me quite a lot of time to learn them, as someone with above average IQ (shut up, it does matter a lot on how fast you are able to learn new stuff), it still took me multiple years to get over all of that. The simple act of "just drinking water" took me...a year (I went from soda, to fruit juices, to milk, to eventually only water). Then the good consumption of veggies, and a stable rotation of foodstuffs also took quite some time. Avoidance of the previous industrious food also, all in all took me 2 years to complete. (it could be much faster with a mentor, but still, it takes a lot of time)

>non smoking
I never smoked, but I have seen how difficult it is to for other people to quit. Some never manage to do so, some may. Lower end IQ people especially cannot manage that.

>non sedentary life, and long term motivation
this was the easiest for me, as it felt just wrong to not to sports, after you tasted a little bit of it, but still, most people will probably never gain the motivation to sustain such a thing? So I would guess still near a year?

I could go on about a more aspects that require time, but these are by far the hardest entry points which a vast MAJORITY fails upon. Take for example, you wish to find a gf from the pool of slobs. Say that GF is quite horrible down the ladder of self improvement. Say that you estimated her IQ points, and maybe even prodded in her ability to try to learn...still though. The 3 above points would take 3 years at least to make her be more healthy. And even at no guarantee for your success. Thats 3 years of somewhat hard work, and motivation to drag someone out of the putrid shit that they are in. Why bother? Each "friend" or romantic interest will have a price tag attached to them, if you take one from the pool of slobs.

>match with girl on tinder
>tells me I worry about working out too much
>tells me I’m boring for not smoking weed or clubbing
>not willing let me teach her how to swim
>complains that all guys including me play video games and don’t give attention to her

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>read medical journals over the years
>all sorts of research
>some gov funded/literal government websites that give out recommendations and warnings
>some stuff which doctors HAVE to recommend to their patients (like how to treat depression naturally)
>said sources give all kinds of risk factors to all sorts of lifestyles.
>so...actually use that information to improve myself
>actually realize how horrible a state society is in
>encounter someone outside
>no gov backing me up
>"well, maybe what you are doing is...potentially not so good and y..."
>"NO! everything is fine, it is you who is wrong user, come join us in throwing our lives away with fun and MORE FUN, or else you are a homo loser who doesnt want to fuck our std ridden cunts!"

erry time

1/10 bait, made me reply

Not to mention that she fucking obsesses over juuls

>"sitting in room"
>yesterday went to a running tournament far away
>away from the city scape, in a rural place surrounded bike a lake, quite a lot of forests there
>see bunch of backpackers there (I sometimes also do that)
>see a bunch of guys on racing bikes on the road (just started doing that too!)
>see a bunch of guys also walking their dogs
>enter a small village and there is an open day mock battle, display of some martial art thing going on with hundreds of people
>finally come at destination and tons of people "not sitting outside there" good physiques, some too lean as you would expect from runners
>sadly no one from my club there
>drive back to boring city scape where "not sitting in a room" only is valid if you drink booze, or have somekind of nigger slang that you use the activity with

whew

All women are like this, not just tinder trash. If they don’t make their attention quota from you they will find someone else.

That's admirable, but if you REALLY want to make it you'll drink with them while also maintaining a superior physique just to show how superior your planning and discipline truly is.

wow this

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You didn't hear any of that. This is what you're imagining that you're saying about you while you're sitting at a lunch table alone

basically this, better to stand out anyways

I wonder if we could make somekind of logo, t-shirt or pin for that. Maybe with less of a focus on ideology, and more of a thing to show that we actually stand apart from them. I mean, there used to be pins, medals and whatever for all sorts of things in military culture, but since most of society is not that anymore...cant we have our own? Could look nice on a resume perhaps.

yeah bro, lets adopt a symbol to associate ourselves with. That always end well

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>requirement: only handsome dudes who have an active life, free of vices and degeneracy are allowed in (spoiler: probably only 10% of Jow Forums, if that at all)

1% of pol

and just base it off some neo paleo lifestyle crap. I mean, who cares. Just drinking water, no soda is a great achievement in the eyes of many in society. Add in regular exercise, healthy cooking and lack of vices and you got a "spartan" or...I dont know. Just someone who wishes to reverse the trend of society, in the category of health. You dont even really need to bring politics into it perhaps. But its just, so tedious to be so different, and having to explain this crap to everyone. It would be easier to just have one movement, perhaps a bunch of websites and blogs with a similar goal so that they can look at the shirt/pin/patch and just tl;dr there away from us.

probably yea

>you need to drink
Kek, I never drink, but I'm often the autistic fuck that either kickstarts the party or keeps it running.

I used to buy lots of processed frozen foods at the grocery store now it's all real food. I feel more judged when I'm only buying produce opposed to all frozen meals.

>ask Jow Forums to do the basics of all of this
>half them them still live with their parents
>a majority of them sip soda
>most are unemployed (the best shitposters actually)
>great overlap with r9k
>great amount of anger issues and no real world experience (oh god I used to be like that as well, cant thank the workplace enough)
>some form of weird fetishes and god knows what
>add in the mix of the old /b/tards which mutilated their genitals
>add in a bunch of new elements like the natsocs and other fairly recent (5 years) groups
>"so guys, wanna start dropping that soda and try to drink wa..."
>"DONT LISTEN TO THIS GUY, ITS A FUCKING KIKE SHILL, SODA'S ARE FUCKING GREAT AND THE JEWS WANT TO PREVENT YOU FROM DRINKING THEM"
>"DID YOU KNOW THAT SODA'S ARE AN ETHNO WHITE FOOD AND NOT SUPPORTING THEM MAKES YOU A FUCKING RACE TRAITOR?"
>"THE JEWS TRIED TO BAN SODA'S IN NEW YORK, FUCK THEY PROBABLY KNOW MORE THAN WE DO"
>"FUCK, SHADFOW GOV IS TRYING TO BAN SODA'S FUCKING GOMMIE EUROPEANS"

so again, if such a thing were to happen, it probably wouldnt involve Jow Forums that much

No, dumbass. They don't hate you because you want to be healthy. They hate you because you're not engaging in normal social activity. The fact that you won't drink or whatever else is incidental. You can still make an effort to hang out with people even if you're not drinking or eating junkfood. You can go to a restaurant and order something small. you can go to a bar and pass on the booze or get tonic water with lemon or something. You can actually make an effort.

You're like that one douchebag at the apartment when we're having friends over for a get-together and you just say "nah, I don't feel like it" and then hole away in your bedroom.

Judged by fucking who? I swear you guys are fucking retards. No one gives a shit that you bought a ripe bell pepper. You're not special lmao. The fact you even think people are judging you over it makes you seem like such a narcissist. The truth is no one gives a shit about you or your shopping list buddy

This. If anyone on Jow Forums is being judged by the grocery cashier about anything, it's going to be about buying 10 containers of eggs and 4 gallons of whole milk and 4 jars of peanutbutter and 5 packs of chicken breast and nothing else.

Why wont the slobs come along for a morning run then? I also asked a couple of them to join me in the gym. It seems like they are like that one douchebag at the gym when we're having friends over for a get-together and you just say "nah, I don't feel like it" and then hole away in your bar, drinking booze.

then dont drink the soda for a month, go on, try it man. I dare you.

I don't understand your line of questioning. Now you're the one acting like a passive-aggressive bitch about them not doing your thing with you. Your equivalency makes zero sense because you are the minority. And judging from the mindset you have, it's clear that the real reason they don't like you is because you act like everyone else should do as you do and give off a holier-than-thou attitude.

I never had any of the problems you bitch about and I was super autistic about healthy, exercise, and diet. Yet none of my friends in college and gradschool who didn't participate in any of this stuff - including my roommates - were resentful of me. You're the one with the shit attitude.

Jesus fuck look at this dumbass, cant even take a little joke. I completely mirrored your comment and your ass was blasted as a result. You filled in all the blanks yourself ha. Talk about self projection.

>They look like shit eat like shit but seem to be happy.IDK how.

Antidepressant prescriptions are at something like 40% for white women over 30

So it's clear you weren't actually looking for an explanation and just wanted a place to vent and get upboats, not unlike a grill on faceberg who takes a selfie saying "ugh, feel so ugly today" just so she can get a bunch of positive comments from her girlfriends and beta orbiters. Advice is out there, take it or leave it.

They do the same thing if you're frugal.
>he rarely goes out to eat
>he doesn't hit the clubs with us
>his apartment is a bit small

I don't pay it any attention. My body is fit and my net worth is positive. Most people are out of shape and in debt.

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wat, how can your sense of humor be so lacking? Dont you realize that the way you mock us, for the bar thing, can be used in exactly the same way against you? What prevents anyone from considering a bar a "holing up", what prevents sports from being a "normal social activity" (actually much more normal than boozing about if you follow the paleo lore). More normal still would be boozing after sports, in rural state, like that cute grill with the huge fish it would be enjoying nature, wildlife, maybe boozing, maybe not. But the point is there are many natural social activities, some are worse than others and boozing up in bars is way down the ladder in terms of quality.

>tfw mocked for not smoking at my new job by new co-workers
These people are retards

it's based on the saying "like crabs in a bucket"

apparantly crabs pull down other crabs who are trying to climb out of the bucket and thus crabs has become synonymous for people who are trying to sabotage you getting better

To undisciplined retards, anyone who shows a modicum of being able to deny current pleasures for long term ones seems uptight.

The only kind of people you should surround yoruself with, are the kind of people you aspire to be like, or aspire to be like the person you want to be.

You are what you think and who you hangout with. Conversing with the common prole is worthless and only devalues you.

OP here, see The living situation this summer wasn't in any way reflective of my normal social life. I was working an intense job in a big city without a car and trying to save money and make summer gains. My real friends at college have an ounce of self-respect themselves and thus don't give a shit about what I do to improve myself and the lifestyle I live. They know they have a part in it and respect what I have to do to be happy and healthy. Some strangers who I've never bothered and happen to have shared an apartment with for six weeks drag me through the mud because I do what they know they should be doing. As I said in the OP, the same exact thing happens at my job with people who I know on a strictly professional basis. I'm not a social chad by any measure but I'm not chalking this up to anything but envy and self-hate on the part of my roommates.

If you have a positive net worth and 500 in savings, you're already doing better than 50% of Americans.

The average person is a retard who is unable to see what they can achieve in 5 years of diligent work.

>no one judged u but they judged me XD

Smoking what? I realize either on is retarded but I just want to know if my guess is correct

>caring what normies think of you

The average person is a pathetic slob and society as a whole continues to devolve into a degenerate sewer.

Crabs. Bucket.

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>ince most of society is not that anymore...cant we have our own? Could look nice on a res
heh this is autism im always guilty of. i love symbols and clear markers with meaning. just means you probably attract other aspies like me.