How did early bodybuilders get so big?

Despite having little idea about nutrition , no existence of macros , and not a whole lot of training science (the bench press didnt exist, the squat didnt exist within a rack), these guys had amazing phyisiques .. Its mostly because of their top tier genetics . However , with todays knowledge , any serious lifter can attain their bodies given enough time.

if you genetics are good enough, you will get big doing anything, hell you will be big even without training. Look at how arnold or rock looked before training, moggs 99% of Jow Forums gymcels.

>The Bodybuilding community didn't know they muscle enhancers existed
You really think this?

Genetics is like 80%, nutrition 15%, optimal program 5%.

mirin your left pec

You look like shit in comparison. You also appear as if you enjoy taking it in the ass.

100 years ago? probably not

gymcells need to realize how important genetics are. If you have sub-optimal genetics, there's literally no reason to lift, you are just wasting your time.

you can always go on T cycle

Adolf Butenandt managed to produce synthetic testosterone in 1931 for the first time. I doubt that people in 1890 knew about this method...

>you can always go on T cycle
true. But gains will not stick if you are above your genetic potential - this means you will have to cycle until your death. Also i heard juice is expensive.

Is it fair that I can’t grow big muscles naturally because I’m tall?

>when taking the neckpill still fails you

lmfao you are so deluded

but I guess unless you're really a fucking mongrel, putting on muscle and actually looking good and being strong isn't a problem
the problem might arise when you want to be HUGE, bigger than pic related

Compared to them you are fat brah, and you look much worse. Stop being delusional and start cutting.

bro you look like dog shit

Dude, Frank was a Manlet as well, you have tiny body compared to him.

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did you photoshop your neck

How do you know if your genetics are good?

For one 16 week cycle it's about 120 bucks. Nolvadex (for pct) will cost another 20-30 bucks on top of that
One 16 week cycle will increase your genetic limit too
Just do cardio and eat right, and you'll be fine.
Saw palemetto fixes hair loss too

0% chance your 185. I am 6'1 and bigger than you and only 188.

Actually you do have better legs than me.
t. always skips leg day... I am working on it.

s o y not yet in the whey

get your diet unjewed, and realize all you need to do to get big, is to eat big.

WTF, i though it was wayyy more expensive.

Where are your shoulders

They were 4'6'' tall.

>Manlet
>gyno

Genetics are a meme outside of top 5% or competition. Anyone can achieve a decent physique with proper diet/training.

I will tell you what is not a meme though. Low test will really fuck your lifting life up. I had a bad injury and some other horrible life circumstances. Previous to that I was 175 benching 250 with a 6 pack while drinking beer and eating pizza all day. Post injury I spent 3 years in the gym eating right and training harder than I did previously and could not get rid of the fat on my sides and could never get my bench over 185... finally got bloodwork and my test dropped by like 900 points... finally got put on TRT and am doing a lot better now.

GET BLOODWORK DONE - Specify that you want Testosterone and Estrogen tested. (((For some reason))) it does not come standard on a blood panel anymore. Also, test has been declining something like 20% in the average male since the 1980's. Look into the research...

give milkies

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>Genetics are a meme outside of top 5% or competition
lmao cope. This is how the rock looked at 15. Now you tell me that genetics are meme? Pathetic.

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This is fucking Arnold 15, before he started working out. Yeah sure, genetics are meme...... FUCKING BRAINELT KYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well they weren't raised on garbage sugary food packaged in plastic. That definitely gives you a head start.

He was also training and playing sports since he was 4 by a professional athlete AND is within the top 5%.

It's almost like your retarded. That is pretty much how I looked at 19 after 2 years of lifting and playing sports my whole life. To be fair though my dad was also a pro athlete.

Point being, genetics are never an excuse not to train and eat right you fat autist.

Those titties

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Do you even know what gyno is bro? He clearly does not have gyno.

Jow Forums really is full of retards now

Alex pls go

arnold and rock is the same shapeshifting alien here to troll humanity , have you ever see them both together at the same time ?

i rest my case

>Point being, genetics are never an excuse not to train and eat right you fat autist.
Of course, not your brainlet scum. All im saying is that how fast you will gain muscle, how much muscle you can gain, how that muscle will look on you (insertions, etc...) depends 100% on genetics. So saying that genetics matter only 5% is truly retarded. 80%, no less.

Back then, men were men and had naturally HIGHER TESTOSTERONE. Something you faggots will never experience. I only date men 50 and up for this reason.

Dude are you blind? They mog you to hell and back.

Piss off tranny

You're the trannies, low test fags

>5'6

Where do you get it at that price?

>5'6"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I am explaining to normalcattle how to namefag on Jow Forums just to ruin it haha

you look more like you're 5'2

>how did early bodybuilders get so big?
Doping existed since the late 1800s.

routine pls

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steroids didnt even exist during that time period, and if any did they were extremely hard to come by and their potential unkown

They were REAL HIGH TEST MEN.

>all these newfags not recognizing him

whomst that

>165 cm
>High test
>Good muscle insertions
Genetical outliers + good lighting = this

>5'6
Lord do I feel sorry for you..

holly fuck dude, I've met girls with smaller tits than yours.

>those bodies
>roids
lmao, if you think that's past the natty limit there's no hope for you

>5'6
OH NO NO NO NO

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Nice boobs, bro

lol keep telling yourself that twink
I'm not even that guy but there's no way you're bigger than him at that height and weight

By lifting heavy things and putting them down.

Iirc the squat (as we know it) was brought over to america by some german dude. Since he didn't have a rack they'd load the bar up, stand it up, then lower it down to rack it on his shoulders. Not sure if that explained it well. Allegedly he could do 550lbs with this method.

I think poverty benches got to like 400-500 lbs too but it's been so long since I'd read it I couldn't say for sure.

>tries to refute the point by using someone who probably was in the top 5%

I am mad jelly of his shoulders

>legs bigger than chest kek

Genetics

>5'6
>Mogging anyone

Some dogs can mog you lmao

Vince Gironda's workouts are pretty good - they were revolutionary at the time; and now they are widely mimic'd

>farmers tan
>that gyno
>that bf%
>looks under 2/3/4/5
>that ego
>5
>6

This wasn't Arnold before he started working out you fucking retard. This was when he first got into bodybuilding and his dad thought he was a faggot not unlike yourself for having pictures of almost naked men in his room. Arnold competed in Austria when he was about 14-16.

Not him but how should I tan if I'm a pale fucker who burns easily? Just give up and use the tanning beds until I'm tan enough not to burn?

they are bigger than you bro and lower bf. shut the fuck up

daddy grow chest hair bls

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Your mistake was actually posting your body on Jow Forums.

>One 16 week cycle will increase your genetic limit too

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oh no oh no

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you look short, also shit

5'6 but your torso looks short as fuck. you must have nigger legs lmao you mini slenderman fuck

>I can’t grow big muscles naturally because I’m tall
why would you think this is a thing?

They would clean it for front squats, clean and press and lower behind head for back squats, for anyone here who might be familiar with exercise.

mainly farm food, lots of red meat, milk, eggs, vegetables, not a lot fo fast food and probably active lifestyles growing up throughout their childhood

And cocaine and morphine

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Look at this little guy! Awwwwee he thinks he’s big like his daddy, isn’t that sooooo cute. He keeps calling himself alpha destiny, don’t kids say the darndest things?

this was before (((s|o|y)))

You can. It's harder work and takes longer but the end result will be better than for shorter people.

>Genetics are a meme outside of top 5% or competition
And outside of bottom 15% genetics. As long as you're in the "average" zone or above you'll be fine, but some people really do have shit genetics.

Who is that?

genetics
>pic related big street cock genes

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