Veganism is heal-

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Meat eaters btfo

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Veganism is what you make of it... can be healthy or unhealthy. It's a moral philoosophy more so than a nutritional approach.

Animals such as cows, pigs and chickens are injected with B12, due to farming. Truly "organic" free range, totally open field animals will have B12 naturally, because B12 is produced by bacteria in the soil, but any kind of farm animal on a normal farm will have depleted the soil.
That being said, Vegans could get B12 by eating dirty root vegetables like they did back in the day, there was no need to wash them off and that's how mainly plant based gatherers got their B12.
So basically, if you eat any farmed meat you are basically taking a vitamin B12 shot or pill, it would be the same as how they add B12 to almond milk or red bull.

The B12 injection in particular has limited benefits over a simple sublingual dose or a pill, but it can be administered less frequently or circumvent the digestive system if someone has a problem absorbing B12.

I also wanted to say that I myself am not vegan, simply because I don't give a fuck, but I eat mostly plant based meals because that's what makes my body feel the best. It's also really simple to bulk if you're not retarded, dried fruit, nuts and seeds, oils... it's hard to fuck up unless you have an eating disorder to start with.

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yeah and that philisophy is:
"man i wish i was more of a VICTIM. what if i just ate like a lower form of evolution? would that help?"

>I eat mostly plant based meals because that's what makes my body feel the best
that is one of the most transparent lies i have ever read.
no one who has actually taken the time to restrict his diet to a few foods and gradually re-introduce them would make a positive statement about plants ever.
you are literally a shill and that is some kind of gayass copypasta that you will hopefully delete.
get fucked and die.

plants make my body feel like shit. that's why i only eat animals.

Can you elaborate on this? Because everything you just spewed on to the internet just now was retarded.

Who am I shilling for? Big Bean? Big Broccoli?
You're just insecure because you choose to ignore the obvious... fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts and seeds are some of the healthiest things you can eat.

I'm not even saying you should stop eating meat completely, you got so defensive about the mere thought that someone was taking your meat away you automatically assumed it was copy pasta lmao.

enjoy your heart attacks and strokes.

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>due to farming
Are you aware that there are people on this board right now who purchase free range, fully grass fed/finished meat, from animals that likely live happier lives than you? Some of the ranchers even look out for 'unhappy' looking cows, because they produce poorer meat and make the rest of the cows stressed out. They're literally raised in a cow paradise where the annoying shitheads get removed until they get their shit together.

>enjoy your heart attacks and strokes.

stay mad pussy vegan enjoy your diabetes

>tfw no qt B12 deficient gf

>big bean
>big broccoli
>not realizing onions and corn are two of the most lobbied crops in the world, to the point they're added to nearly everything just so farmers in the midwest can feel useful.

I'm very aware, and that's why I literally included the fact you can get B12 from meat in my post, if harvested naturally, just like you can get B12 from plants, if harvested naturally.
Learn to read please.

I intake enough fiber, I'm not worried about diabetes. I'm also not vegan. please learn to read, thank you!

I don't eat processed foods, and crop lobbies don't even hold a candle to the meat and dairy industry.

>veganism isn't heal-

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i am convinced now. will eat like a cow from now on. good post !
you can go home, your work is done. bye.

>I intake enough fiber, I'm not worried about diabetes. I'm also not vegan. please learn to read, thank you!

you think we actually need fibre and that our intestines don't contract to move faecal matter along on their own without needing unnecessary indigestible matter causing a myriad of intestinal issues. you're cute faggit vegan. enjoy your diabetes and colon cancer.

>vegan diets age you fas-

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>hapa
doesn't count.

>There are no naturally-occurring notable vegetable dietary sources of the vitamin, so vegans and vegetarians are advised[5][6] to take a supplement or fortified foods. Otherwise, most omnivorous people in developed countries obtain enough vitamin B12 from consuming animal products including meat, milk, eggs, and fish.

I trust wikipedia more than some random malnourished hipster. Now kindly do a neck extension to failure. Live stream it so we can have laugh.

you're not talking to an actual, it's a paid shill.
relax, close the tab and move to a different topic. these people will burn in hell eventually, it is wise to just ignore them.

he looks like rivers cuomo

only gayer, as impossible as that seems

You shouldn't eat like a cow, hopefully you are not a cow. You should eat a balanced, plant based diet.

fiber slows down the digestion of sugars, that's why diabetics can eat as much fruit as they want. If you think we don't need any fiber in our diet, you are too far gone to help.you lack a basic understanding of human anatomy and your brain has started to rot from the massive amount of shit left in your body.

cope
assuming

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peristalsis#Human_physiology

enjoy diabetes.

not a cope tbqh, find me one with no asian blood.

>man I love that sweater song, we had some good music back in the day

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>dried fruit, nuts and seeds
>bulking on sugar and indigestible fiber

In all seriousness, I never understood how fiber helps us. How does it being indigestible help move shit along in the intestines? Also never had an issue with my once a day shit when I was taking in literally 0g of fiber a day for years.

I eat about 15g+ of fiber a day now, but I still don't understand how it helps.

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literally right before that sentence on the wikipedia page it states that B12 is found in soil you mongoloid, no one claimed it was in the vegetables themselves. holy shit meatniggers need to learn to read.

>no one claimed it was in the vegetables themselves
k. Are you eating the soil? Specifically the animal shit in the soil containing the trace amounts of b12?

fiber is good for digestion, but it's main benefit is for you gut microbiome

No, I'm not. I supplement with B12.
You also supplement with B12 by eating animals injected with B12.

Does the microbiome eat the fiber or something?

I just get my b12 from sips, 200% dv per can 3 cans a day

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theres a video of her eating a fucking crate of lettuce on her youtube, its weirdly fascinating

basically.
fiber helps your gut flora proliferate and you want to keep them well fed, it can effect all kind of things from hormones to immune system response.

yes it is a cope
you begging for me to show you examples of vegans that look younger than their age is cope too
pic related, looks better than 99% of the faggots in this board and is a 53y old vegan

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not a cope, asian blood keeps everyone looking young.

I'm thinking about pretending to be vegan on youtube to milk vegans out of money.
It seems as easy as roiding and pretending to be natty.
Can anyone think of a way it can backfire?

here it is, 5lbs of fucking lettuce
youtube.com/watch?v=-4s1I13tmQM

nope, go for it.

My god you are brain dead
>just like you can get B12 from plants, if harvested naturally
This is what you said, you absolute buffoon.

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next you are gonna say blacks also have superior aging genetics lmao

Just keep a lower profile out in public and on social media and you could do it

youtu.be/uw_j5NiZk50
Here is a vegan bodybuilder that started very late in life, looking far more ripped than any of you meatniggers.

>but steroids!

This dude has a video about an escrow he set up, if you put your money were your mouth is he will take a blood test within 24 hours and if he is clean you get to keep his part of the money, free money right? meatniggers right?

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Nah, I'll accept the nigger as evidence.

Nobody knows what you do at home.

>enjoy your heart attacks and strokes.
>Implying that you aren't also going to die

I love that veggie queers think veganism is going to let them live forever

>crazy ripped *ROIDED 53 year old vegan

No sane person thinks that. I just don't want to die prematurely because
>MUH BACON THO!!

No, that is most likely what a lot of these people do.

Please do so we can laugh at your mediocre ass.

desu as long as you aren't a fat fuck the difference in lifespan will be negligible at best.

you literally just admitted to having a shittier physique than a 53y old bean eating nigger lmao

It's always straight to steroids when you start getting worried a vegan is making more gains than you. If a vegan diet was insufficient, you woulnd't be able to build muscle PERIOD, steroids or not.
It's like saying you could fast for 30 days and take steroids and build hue muscles, it's just fucking stupid.

>roids age you faster
>vegan diet ages you faster
>this 53y old vegan looks young but only because he's on roids

Holy shit the fucking meatcuck cope.

You're a fucking vegan faggot and I'm going to eat double the bacon tonight, I'm at least twice as big than any nigger and twice as smart.

I'm not vegan I'm just playing devil's advocate, cope harder dyel and just accept the fact that many diets work.
>twice as big
delusional
>twice as smart
even more unlikely

wow

More like

>roids age you faster in some ways, but youthen you in others like ability to put on muscle mass, recover quickly, get lean, etc
>vegan diet ages you faster
>this 53 year old roiding vegan looks young but only because of asian genetics

get your strawmen right ffs.

you're literally just assuming shit in order to save face and cope with the fact you look like shit in comparison despite eating an "optimal diet"
just accept the fact many diets work and stop being so dogmatic you dyel faggot
anyone that looks better than you is on roids

the "twice as smart" part got me

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>diet so healthy it makes you sick even with supplements
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1028854/How-strict-vegan-diet-children-ill.html

I'm not, just correcting your strawman.

>wants to look like a onions boy even at 51 years of age

Top kek why am I not suprised?

Is he really 51??

then why does the World Health Organization say that a vegan diet is suitable for ALL AGES, pregnant and nursing mothers and athletics?
Oh, your source is the Daily mail lol

>what is the phrase "black don't crack"

There is literally a saying about black people ageing you veggie tard. Also TRT is a hell of a drug

>Eating the food of lesser beings in order to live 6 months longer

L O L at your life tbqhf

i was going to say the rickets thing could've been avoided by exposing them to sunshine, but then i realised they are from scotland

Just eat meat and let nature take its course.

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>you can't build muscle on roids and a crappy diet

You know how I know you are a new lifter?

Agreed
We should accept people who eat vegan, and let them all turn to skellys
Between the fatties and the skellys, we will be gods among men

what is gh

christ you are all retarded

of course we'll defend this, I'd rather die younger than kill innocent animals, something a Jew like you would never understand.

>jews want us jacked and strong instead of skinny, weak and jaundiced

I don't think you know what you are talking about lil buddy...

Where the fuck did all the vegan fags in this thread come from? I swear to god its probably a private vegan reddit group.

And stop pretending that veganism is healthier, and that you faggots actually care about the health aspect.

Veganism is first and foremost a psychological reaction to a fundamentally dumb moral interpretation of the order of things in biological life. Vegans see the world in a marxist framework of the oppressor and the oppressed, and expand that to fucking eating and are driven to empathize with the oppressed wee aminals. They are fundamentally uncomfortable with their position in life, and rationalize that by learning to hate the "oppressor" and they extend that to fucking food.

Vegans do not eat vegan diets because of "VEGITABLE HEALTH". That is just a talking point in their propaganda efforts.

They do it because they hate success, even in the most basic biological sense of the predator-prey dynamic

>vegans

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Of course Jews don't want you to consume a lot more food than you need to get jacked, they would get no profit from that what so ever.

-lo operator
give me number 9
If it doesn’t answer,
then give me back my dime.

>enjoy your heart attacks and strokes.
Enjoy your brain dysfunction, vegan.

I agree, all morality is subjective and there is no God. These simpletons just don't understand evolution. It makes me euphoric just thinking how much higher my intelligence is, no doubt from all the meat I shove down my throat. Wubba lubba dub dub my friend, and have an upvote ;)

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Life of a cow, eating grass all day just to get all necessary proteins.

>World Health Organization
And trannies not mentally ill, just like vegans.

>some 53yo roidcel is supposed to make me jeealous.
*snap*

post body faggot

You first

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Just for u BB

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post bodie

It helps keep your intestines clean by scraping away stuff that gets stuck in the villi. It also slows the movement of the digestible matter, allowing the body more time to absorb nutrients. You should read up on it. It's pretty fascinating.