Boxing vs MMA-style wrestling for a street fight

Martial arts are not primarily used for street fights. Sure, if you get some boxing basics, you can punch someone in their face, that's it. But generally, it's supposed to prepare you for a fight with rules. After you do it for a few years, you begin to know how to use it with dirty street rules, too.

My uncle did judo for 10+ years, and when he got into a street fight, he just used the guys movement forward, grabbed his shoulder and left his knee up, so it was all done in a few seconds. He didn't have to use any ippon-point judo technique. He just had a sense of movement, power, and flexibility that comes with years of practice.

If you want to train specifically for street fights/self-defence. Do some hand-to-hand combat, look at grip strength and learn how to punch without gloves.

It's been demonstrated time and again that the grappler usually dominates in that scenario. It's not as easy to one punch KO someone as you think, even for someone who trains boxing. Plus a good grappler doesn't just charge at you head on, they find crafty ways to take you down and are usually agile as fuck.

>Grappler
Get your head stomped in by the friend of the guy your trying to choke out or your guts ripped open with a pocket knife

>Striker
Get taken down and subsequently have the life literally strangled out of you

Solution: Just carry a gun you insecure pussies. And stop constantly shitting up the board with these shitty repetitive threads.

Some people can just grab a person's arm and bring their legs up like a monkey just so when they both go to the ground they can snap the arm. Boxing and wrestling are combat sports and will teach moves, guards, stances, and counters, but both are strict in what you can and can't do in a bout. Rabbit punching can kill a person, and dropping a knee or a solid soccer ball kick to the head can do so as well.

A good way to train in street fighting is to find ways to avoid joint locks, pins, and chokes because once someone gets you in those, it's essentially over and they might be crazy enough to kill you.

>Amerifag brainlet detected

>it's supposed to prepare you for a fight with rules
>dirty street rules
stop spouting this bullshit. it really is dunning kruger effect the thread. the absence of rules shifts the advantage to the trained person even more. you won't be able to use your "dirty street rules" if your opponent has much superior positioning and controls your every move. do you really expect that an untrained person will be able to be precise enough stick a finger into someone's eye if even landing a punch is difficult? first mma tournaments forbid only eye gouges and biting and there weren't any victories achieved thanks to dirty fighting

You clearly don't know what dirty fighting means. Neither Kruger effect for that matter, unless you assume I've seen 20 street fights.

>first mma tournaments
Someone coming close at a bus stop and sucker punching you isn't an equivalent of first mma tournament. It's a different environment and different situation. There may even be more of them. Training with rules gives you no advantage for that.

You made so many reasoning errors in a simple few sentence post. Please don't respond if you're gonna continue in the same way.

I'm guessing you never wrestled

Not him.

>Training with rules gives you no advantage for that.
Except superior speed and power, endurance, the ability to take a punch AND punch someone without hesitating (not trivial) understanding of spacing and positioning, ability to effectively evade, pin point precision, mental preparedness etc. etc. etc.

Add on top of that, that you can obviously still use your retarded "dirty fighting" tricks that any untrained person could attempt.
But why would you, when you have much much more effective tools at your disposal.
No matter how you look at it, being a trained fighter is painfully obviously gonna be a massive advantage in any sort of fighting scenario, how is that even disputed?
The rules in fighting sports are there to prevent fighters from killing each other, NOT enabling otherwise ineffective techniques or whatever shit you seem to think.
And that's what would happen to you, mr. "I don't play by the rules", you would get KILLED,
even moreso considering it is very apparent that you have little to no experience in fighting.

>Someone coming close at a bus stop and sucker punching you isn't an equivalent of first mma tournament
and what do you think gives the advantage against a sucker punch? ? if anything "fights with rules" will teach you how to position yourself against a shady individual approaching you at a bus stop in a way that doesn't give him a clear shot or not to panic when your inner ear is disturbed after a punch. if there are more of them, your probably fucked anyway if they aren't completely dumbfounded by your retaliation, and basically the only thing that could help is proper positioning and footwork taught by "fights with rules".
>You clearly don't know what dirty fighting means. Neither Kruger effect for that matter, unless you assume I've seen 20 street fights.
I don't assume that. judging from your detachment from reality, I doubt you've even seen a boxing match or left your house lately

watch randy couture vs james tony for your answer

youtube.com/watch?v=adOpTYjjedE

just use peppers spray or some shit.

>No matter how you look at it, being a trained fighter is painfully obviously gonna be a massive advantage in any sort of fighting scenario, how is that even disputed?

Because a street punk with a record long as a toilet roll doesn't give a fuck. He fights like an animal. In theory all that you say sounds good, but I knew a few guys personally who got their faces smashed horribly in street fights against all sorts of criminal retards.

Personally, I don't have a killer drive in this, first thing that'd come to my mind is if I'd get record for beating up the other guy. The other guy doesn't think about that. (I knew a guy who gave a one punch KO to a guy who fell on a curb and died. The guy did 6 years in prison, and now washes dishes for living.)

If you compare abilities of a street fighter and a boxer, of course boxer is on top. That doesn't mean a boxer is always going to win though. I don't know where you live, but for me, one punch could mean my career is completely over. Do you think I would fight with the same drive as a street fighter looking for an ego boost with his mates?

>"training with rules gives you no advantage in a fight without rules"

Please be merely pretending to be retarded

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You don't have to state that you have no clue about fighting, that much is obvious.
We all know that YOU can't fight, what does that have to do with the argument?
Please stop talking when you clearly have no idea on the subject matter.

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Aww, you must have some issues at home perhaps? If you need to talk, I will understand.

is brock /ourguy/?

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You are pretty much blatantly saying "I lost the argument and now I'm upset" with this.
Look, instead of being butthurt, just don't get into arguments about stuff you know next to nothing about.
I learned that a long time ago and I have been much better off for it.

>I learned that a long time ago and I have been much better off for it.
You didn't. English isn't your first language then, I can see.

>He fights like an animal
you realize it's a perfect setup for being KOed in an instant by someone who just calmly looks for an opening, right?

Wrestling in a real fight is dangerous as you’re on the ground and someone else (you might not know how many there are) could just stomp your head in.

Weak ass damage control lmao

have you ever been thrown on the concrete? and you obviously don't go to the ground if there are multiple opponents but I don't know if you realize tha you can stand up from a ground fight in like half a second if you're in a top position (which is pretty much guaranteed against someone with no grappling experience)

Why do mmgays always want to compare their sport to the sweet science?

>this stupid shit

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because of boxing like other things is weak all on its own in comparison to MMA

Because boxing by itself sucks when other strikes/takedowns are introduced.