daily reminder that you are only half a man if u don't know how to fight
Daily reminder that you are only half a man if u don't know how to fight
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Same could be said if you dont own and know how to use a firearm.
Imagine going back in time, and being a man who didn't know how to wield any kind of weapon, you'd be considered a fucking failure.
And people wonder why men have become soft, what was once a part of your manhood (your weapon) is now banned and not allowed at all and it's demonized like crazy in the few places you can still have them.
any idiot can handle a baretta, but to it takes heart, courage and willpower to stand in a ring and fight against an equal.
the ability to pull a trigger doesen't make a man out of you. and for many non Americans, a gun isn't even an option.
Wow, you have a lot of learning to do.
>Imagine going back in time, and being a man who didn't know how to wield any kind of weapon, you'd be considered a fucking failure.
No, only a minority could really 'use' a weapon. The rest could just pick it up and wave it to try to defend themselves.
Fighting is for low IQ minorities and children. You are never going to end up in a one on one boxing match in the middle of the fucking street unless you go looking for one (and if you do that, you’re a fucking degenerate). If you ever somehow find yourself in a fair and even fist fight, you’ve done something wrong with your life.
>b-but what if someone attacks you!?
If someone attacks you, you aren’t going to be forming any Floyd Mayweather-esque strategy or executing any of the epic techniques you’ve been practicing on a punching bag. A homeless nigger is going to run up on you from behind and stab you in the kidneys with a broken shard of glass. If you want to avoid getting randomly attacked, live in a first world country and don’t put yourself in dangerous situations.
>b-but what if Chad slaps your gfs ass in the club
None of you fucking virgins have gfs nor have ever set foot in a club. Now stop pretending on the internet in your mother’s basement and go outside and lift.
I lift and know how to fight, but I'll still always be half a man at 5'5"
>your workspace, the ultimate Jow Forums alphamale
Ad hominem. If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute then don’t post at all you absolute brainlet.
parry and strike, try not to get grabbed, don't do anything that could end with you getting thrown. that being said, if you have an opportunity to tease out your opponent's tendencies, what he *doesn't* like, do that. if you're outnumbered you need to go animal mode and neutralize quickly and brutally if you're gonna have a chance to get away/ward them off. oftentimes people think you're not going to fight back at all if they're picking on you.
>comes into a thread about fighting
>LOL what's fighting?!?!?!
>someone says gb2/lit/orwherever
>REEEEEEE
^this is you lad
>implying you can learn how to fight
You have to be born with WARRIOR SPIRIT
>any idiot can handle a baretta
But not just any idiot can spell Beretta.
this isn't ad hominem you dick
this is a version of name calling
ad hominem can only happen if you actually know the person and target something that's real about them
Wow you showed him,stupid fucking english teacher
This post is literally just gibberish. Stop talking to me, you dense motherfucker. I’m losing brain cells just reading these shit-tier replies.
why would you even discuss with someone who is a "brainlet" and has a "low iq" because he enjoys a hobby and sport he loves. i mean your whole point is basically to prejudices 100 of thousand of people you don't know. so i think the only one with the low iq here is you.
I must point out you are literally fighting these anons, you low-IQ mongrel. Relevant yet not related: I fail to see how you could lose brain cells by not understanding something.
daily reminder that you are only half a man if u are below 6'
thank you, won't do that mistake again.
I want to try boxing but don't want a concussion. Played football and knew some guys who got multiple and they couldn't even hold a conversation without zoning out every 5 seconds. Shit is terrible
cold showers bruh
I've been boxing for two years now and haven't had a concussion yet. Most boxing gyms the sparring is light, it's improbable you get a concussion. Some gyms I've been to though go full force sparring, that you should beware of. You'll be wearing headgear until you go professional which will be years under ideal circumstances.
Go try it, if you don't like it don't come back.
You're only half right. You need to know how to shoot as well. If you can't handle firearms safely, then you're just a Leftist beta cuck.
Expounding on my earlier statement there's nothing more alpha than hanging out with your boxing friends and knowing any squad that dares step to you will get annihilated
this. if you think about it, it is totally stupid to think that way but it is so true.
Daily reminder that most of /fit talks out of their ass. You especially
Little kids and weak women can use firearms just fine.
Only strong men and exceptionally powerful women can fight effectively using their body.
It has to do with human instinct.
speaking like a true basedboy.
I'm a police officer and for my job, hand to hand combat is pretty important. Not every conflict can be solved by using a gun. You will end up in prison easily.
Look up "street fight" videos on youtube. You will find hundreds of videos of people fighting ON the street in a somewhat "fair" fist fight. Without weapons, without dirty tricks. Just boxing and kicking.
this is the fun part, we are all liars and are telling the truth at the same time, because nobody proves shit. we all are talking and talking but never prove anything. it is so meaningless, but fun at the same time because i can trigger little lifting pussys like you.
>live in a first world country
"first world countries" are about as safe as Africa nowadays. Murrica has niggers and Europe has nggers and sandniggers
I would beat up 99% of this board.
It just feels so good knowing this. You fags have no idea.
>be 6'4 280lbs
>already been in 2 fights and won both
manlets you need to go for my knees since that's all you can reach anyway
>I would beat up 99% of this board.
Yea sure you would autist. Then you woke up
>>already been in 2 fights and won both
Thinks that never happened for $100 dollars.
You are incapable of winning any fight you shitbag.
You hit the bag at your local gym now you think you know how to fight.
lets see some trophies or medals fuckboy
>this is the fun part, we are all liars and are telling the truth at the same time, because nobody proves shit. we all are talking and talking but never prove anything. it is so meaningless, but fun at the same time because i can trigger little lifting pussys like you.
Talking out of your ass again
As someone very pro 2A, pulling the trigger of the great equalizer is not really the same as disciplining yourself with an art/sport.
>the manlet recognizes his inferiority
i even gave you fighting tips just trying to help
whats the point if you're 158 lb like me
You just need a good gym, a good coach who isnt going to let you spar with killers, and learn good defense as a priority.
Babies first time getting trolled
>Most boxing gyms the sparring is light
LOL
Maybe cardio bunny boxercise.
Thai Boxing if you legit don't want brain damage.
Get a helmet
t. Got into a few street fights as a teenager
It's honestly all about aggressiveness and getting the first punch in.
>Be me a few years ago
>first time in a fight
>think im hot shit and try to do a bunch shit i saw online
>get shit kicked out of me
if your thinking of what youre going to do next in a fight youve probably already lost, after that first experience, all i did was remember to keep my guard up and attack with aggression.
I always would remember my first fight and remember how i got my ass beat and use that fear as fuel and turn it into aggression.
Man there's nothing like getting owned the first time, you realise so much.
Ellaborate on the "isn't going to let you spar with killers" part.
Train your neck and dodge by a hair and not a foot
Well, ive been to a couple of boxing gyms in my life. The first one, my very first time sparring in my life, my coach put me in with a big black guy and i literally got a concussion and never went back.
The second gym was a lot better because the coach would put me in with guys who were closer to my skill level, and he would act as a Ref to make sure nobody tries to seriously hurt anyone. Sparring can get rough, but a newbie should never be in there with some scumbag who's actually trying to knock him out. Eventually, with experience I reached a level to where I feel that i can hang with most guys my weight, but I never would have got there if stayed with the coach who put me in with a far more experienced guy who kicked my ass.
The best gyms/coaches will offer you three kinds of sparring partners.
>fighters better than you so you can learn how to take a beating a keep composed. Also, they're someone you can learn from in terms of seeing how things are done correctly. Work on your fundamentals with this person.
>fighters at the same level as you so you can measure your progression against theirs. Someone to stay competitive with and be able to work your fundamentals and new unproven stuff with.
>The feeders. Your skill level is higher so you can work on things you aren't comfortable with. New tech, modify your game, experiment with stuff you haven't wired yet.
wow imagine thinking this. Maybe in some places, at some times, but martial training has always been relatively widespread for at least 80% of the population, and spanned many eras. For example, in England during the high middle ages it was mandatory for peasants to be proficient with bows and spears and practice was weekly.
>martial training
>80% of the population
Back to the pit.
Every human being in existence today is here because of their ancestor's ability to fight.
As a human being, one should harness their fighting instincts to develop a method of fighting efficiently, with or without weapons.
But I am a cat.
Then fight like a cat.
>that guy who is too smart to defend himself
Enjoy dying, smartypants
This. Look fuckers, it's 2018. We could literally be on MARS if we weren't dragged down by morons who spend their spare time fighting, drinking and criming.
>Get a helmet
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>criming
Why you didnt count guys who waste time on Jow Forums?
Just go for it and don't worry too much. Unless you are going to a really shitty gym you aren't going to risk any kind of concussion. They will not be sparring full force and in the beginning it will be more like touch-play than actually fighting.
Still, getting a concussion while boxing is much higher than other martial arts since the head is primary target, the other target is the body. The most damage you will receive as a beginner is to the body, you don't know how much a body puch hurts until you get hit by one.
Muay thai/kickboxing is in some way safer, even if it includes head kicks. Same shit applies, you won't be sparring hard for a LONG time and only if you want it, but the fact that there are so many more attacks makes it less probable to be hit hard in the head.
Especially in muay thai, the fact that you can clinch opens up the possibility of throwing knees to the ribs and midsection.
don't get an helmet thinking it will help against concussions because it doesnt. Helmet are only useful to not get black eyes and cuts.
There are some studies that show that you actually more cocussions when using headgar. Maybe because it makes your head heavier, making it harder to dodge shots and making the shots harder, maybe because people feel more confident while wearing it and that makes them reckless, maybe because it makes your head a bigger target, who knows...
They don't use it anymore even in the Olympics, and they are usually the ones that put safety first
This is a much more eloquent way to put things. Thats exactly what I meant, putting you in with the right guys, not just feeding you to the wolves.
I think the guy's a dweeb too, but that was definitely ad hominem. It's not even up for debate.
I do not need to fight because I am an intellectual who does not require training how to lift your leg up and swing it around like an idiot. I use my brain and my high iq to beat my opponents in a verbal duel. At the end of the day it is the powder-driven weapon that presides over the violence of the world, and will do so until the end of days on this Earth. Keep swinging your arms and legs while my deadly accuracy enables me to end your life in a second or less and you won't even see it coming. Your pathetic martial arts moves wont save you from a bullet.
*Sigh*, Why are people so dumb?
Of course. I could take an entire middle school classroom too. It's nothing to brag about.
Manlets, this is your king. Don't listen to his advice about how to fight him. You go straight for his bitch. I'll knock his ass out while he's distracted.
The only reason early guns were used was because even though a skilled archer could outmatch someone with an early gun, you could give a gun to anyone and they can learn to use it in a few days. Don't be all high and mighty - because literally anyone can use a gun.
this faggot gets it
Nah, this whole opinion is trash because leftists love guns too. Unless you think we're gonna sieze the means of production with our dicks.
True, but these were sers, peasants or slaves, not real men. OP's assertion stands.
>real men only come from nobility
Good God, you're a faggot.
headgear AND gloves leads to more serious head injuries
With that attitude, yes you will be. Putin is 5'5 and he's a man amongst men.
>any idiot can handle a baretta
This is not true
t. IPSC-shooter
Why are you gun cucks unable to conceptualise that there is a level of confrontation that sits between killing and doing nothing and that 99% of human confrontations exist in this zone. Training will give is efficiency and confidence in this area.
I live in a top 10 quality of life city in the suburbs with high wages, very low crime and low to moderate immigration. My location makes your typical americans location look like Detroit in regards to crime.
When I was 15 (looked older) I was walking home from a sporting match when two adult drug addicts started following me and eventually jogged past me, cut me off and then tried to ((("""sell"""))) me a point of meth. Eventually they got to the point and started swinging. They were completely drugged out and I managed to lose overall but put up enough of a fight that it wasn't worthwhile for them to continue and seriously fuck me up, just bruised, battered and a little cut up.
>If someone attacks you, you aren’t going to be forming any Floyd Mayweather-esque strategy or executing any of the epic techniques you’ve been practicing on a punching bag.
The point of training is that these actions become muscle memory, once you've done something tens to hundreds of thousands of times you no longer need to think about it, it becomes an autonomous response.
>A homeless nigger is going to run up on you from behind and stab you in the kidneys with a broken shard of glass.
Hehehehe I can make all training seem pointless if I cleverly frame the interaction in an extremely narrow, limited and unlikely scope.
Are you sure about that?
What are some good combat sports to train in?
Is this more or less accurate
Muay Thai:
>fully unlocked clinch, elbow and knee game
>low emphasis on fists
>emphasis on standing and trading blows over ring strategy and movement
Dutch style:
>Nerfed clinch game, no elbows or knees
>unlocked fists game
>unlocked movement and ring control
If so, Dutch style sounds superior as learning fists and movement probably dominates knees, elbows and clinch for both MMA and self-defense. How do you know if a place is doing proper dutch style, and not watered out cardio.
Technique vs Strength? which is more important
I want to join something, but how does joining a martial arts place work? Like they all have adult classes and say come for a taster session, but how do they just put someone who's never done it in with a class of people who have been doing it for year?
Technique and mass. I can even apply a fraction of my strength at BJJ while I'm still a newbie. I squat 2x BW etc. but there's almost no visible strength difference during grappling between me and someone at the same BW and similar BJJ experience who doesn't lift. I can manhandle someone 10kg+ lighter like a girl though
>be me
>Go to Thaibox Training
>3rd day is sparring
>get beaten up like shit by strong 12 year olds
>break Rip
>Never again
Muay Thai + BJJ god tier combo
>unlocked movement and ring control
you never been to an dutch k1 gym? beating the shit of each other is part of their daily routine. they spar very hard and their techniques are pretty limited.
>left,right,left body hook, lowkick reset
>right,left body hook, left uppercut. lowkick reset
you get the idea, an k1 fighter is pretty easy to read. muay thai is a whole different kind of combat sport, you can variate so much, and the clinch is a sport and art in itself.
we also have different kind of fighting styles in muay thai
2 examples
>muay mat
a very aggressive kind of style, a lot of hard punches and devastating kicks
or because you mentioned movement and ring control, we have
>muay femur
which are fighters who are perfect in controlling pace, range and movements of their opponents, they can use every weapon of muay thai and are very precise and smart. basically they read you like a book and are 10 steps ahead of you at every second of the fight.
for me as an nak muay myself, k1 is more of an meathead kind of style with very low beauty in itself, most k1 fighter are easy to read and controllable. but if you enjoy it, keep the work up.
>I can manhandle someone 10kg+ lighter like a girl though
Highly unlikely if your opponents experience is higher(higher belt)
Is it realistic to make time for both, plus lifting without being a NEET?
wrong (bad) gym, try another one.
I think so, I'm doing 3-4x weightlifting, 1-2x BJJ and will do 1x kickboxing (did boxing a time ago) a week.
To be elite in something you will have to focus on one aspect, but idc about that
>Highly unlikely if your opponents experience is higher(higher belt)
I know, I'm talking about a similar (low) experience level
i feel like whoever posted this has a beard and glasses
Pretty much this.
The whole "muay thai is just stand and bang" isn't true. Sure, many thais are like that just as many western kickboxers are all "spinning shit and jump around".
Also the clinch is extremely underrated by outsiders, even for self defence. Go ahead, try to boxe against a competent clinch fighter. You'll get thrown around and kneed to death, even if you are bigger. If you have never found yourself in that situation you have no idea what to expect and in no time youll find your head kissing someone's knee.
Muay khaos are known for their toughness, you have to be hard as nails to pull off that style. I personally fucking love it, it's so satyisfing to watch and to fight like that. Shame I'm not tall, I would love to fight muay khao style.
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Without a doubt one of my favorite fights. sadly now 90% of muay khaos are just lock and throw, it's a shame
I say, why not give the curmudgeons accosting you a good wallop with your sturdy walking stick?
The level between killing and doing nothing is deescalation, that is unless you're poorly socialized and/or a sociopath.
>He wants to be autistic at mars
I have joining a fighting gym as a long term goal but they're way too expensive for my current income and my cardio endurance is total shit.
looking to join a kickbox gym, but kind of intimidated (even though i'm fairly big, 6"4, 250lb, don't want to be a punching bag) any tips?
dont worry, people respect beginners and youre not gonna get fucked up unless youre going to a real hardass kinda gym.
I lived in asia and joined a boxing/mma gym and was the token white token beginner and everyone was cool af. You'll only get beaten up in a motivating kinda way
Just go and dont worry. they will go easy on you.
No one (almost, there is always a douche in the world) will mock you or anything of the sort, dont worry about looking like an idiot while doing some exercises that you know you cant do, no one is looking at you and who is, is doing it to help you out. Just remember to go light yourself, you are a big dude, you can hurt someone easily
What if I don't live in a 3rd world favela shithole and don't have to worry about ''rival squads'' in the first place?
fightings a meme
being 300lbs+ will deter any attackers
anyone whos stupid enough to hit you would hit you from behind and probably with a weapon
your boxing/mma/kickboxing wont do shit
lifting heavy weights/being physically big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fighting
People who would attack you will most likely have friends on standby so ground game is useless
by all means learn how to throw a good punch but investing real time into martial arts is a meme, and youll end up DYEL
and i used to be an amatuer boxer with 100% win ratio