Before you sperg out about this being a Jow Forums thread, let me tell you my side.
So, I've been kind of thinking over those shitty days I've had wage slaving. I was mainly thinking about my past, all that had been promised to me but denied due to being born a complete degenerate and then somehow, I moved onto the way societies are formed. If you ever look at some ancient empires, you will see that most of them have consisted of slaves and the upper class. Even nowadays, though slavery isn't a big thing, you will find people who are tirelessly stressing themselves out about their pathetic, menial jobs (myself included) just so that they can make a living for themselves. Ultimately, there is no solution to stop wage slavery as it is necessary for the social hierarchy and the societies that we live in today to work well. Historically speaking, there were attempts at changing the social hierarchy to suit the average man(communism being best example) but have utterly failed. So I've been thinking, what if civilization has collapsed? Certainly, we'd get a massive culling but most importantly... We'd truly be free. Sure, we may lose all our luxuries but are they really worth it at the end of the day? Aren't those luxuries precisely what makes us miserable? Imagine a world without NEET, wageslaves or self pompous rich fags but a world where every man is there for himself out in the wilderness amongst other living things. It is also worth noting how 'depressed' people have become and how coincidentally, they are somewhat separated from nature. City designers try their best to bring lots of green into their newly designed streets to keep people happy as we are somewhat inclined to feel more relaxed due to the green colour. Your thoughts robots?
I've always been of the opinion that whatever happens happens. Society is in the state that it is in right now, and if civilization collapsed like you say then that is what society would be. There is no true "freedom", no one "deserves" anything, whatever happens happens, and that's all.
Brody Wright
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AND HAVE THAT COMPUTER ALLOCATE IT
THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE GREAT
Leo Diaz
I agree. If you ask me, the biggest source of all our problems in society is surplus of food. Had we not gotten that far, there would have been no specialization. Specialization lends to individual identify, which is kindling for the ego. Surplus of good was a mistake
Isaiah Perez
Thanks for sharing your opinions anons, have some (yous)
Jason Jenkins
People grouped together and made society to escape being alone in the wilderness. They settled in order to have luxuries, like a consistent water source and being able to grow food. Even if people were to agree that society is shit and they dont want it, we wont even be able to survive without our technologies, being unable to hunt and unable to purify water. Unfortunately your idea for the common man is total shit in practice, much like every other idea to benefit the masses. I applaud you for trying though, as very few people working as hard as you are can think like this.
Lucas Brown
The biggest problem us most jobs aren't necessary and we work longer than we need. Most time at the office is milking the clock
Henry Gonzalez
The Indians and all ancient tribal people (even europeans at one point) had life right. Small tribes, living off the land, hunt/fish all day, make love to your woman under the stars all night, strong bond with other tribe members. Yes there was still wars with other tribes and you could die easier, but I'd take that any day over wage slaving just to survive. I'd rather live free and get killed in the wild at 35 then live my entire life a worthless wagecuck slaving away to put a roof over my head.
The indians fought so hard for this freedom and gladly died for it, they lost though.
Josiah Nguyen
You see, this is precisely what I am trying to get at. You are very correct about people (including us) not being able to survive without our technologies and that is precisely the problem. It almost seems like some of us just weren't meant to be and are an artificial creation due to pest-like humans overbreeding.
Juan King
We are already living in a collapsed civilization user
My question for you though, is if not being a wage slave and living apart from mainstream society is what you want, what are you doing about it? You only get one life, if that's how you feel you should do something about it.
Jordan Hughes
Quite shameful really, don't some of the native Americans have a strong bond with nature still?
Thomas Gray
ted kaczynski (top 5% IQ) figured this all out years ago and went crazy. Technology is anti-human, anti-nature.
Jaxson Clark
Not really, they just drink all day and have high suicide rates.
Wyatt Campbell
I suppose your question poses even more problems for me really and my answer to your question is; I don't know. My main problem is probably the fact that I cannot live in the moment and enjoying things around me which is probably the reason as to why I have had such a radical idea in my mind in the first place. To ruin down what some may enjoy to find my own joy is indeed a bit ludicrous really. As for what am I doing about it... Nothing. It might also be the reason why everything around me and you seems to be so dull... People seeking solace in escapism doing things like: becoming transgender, playing video games (I do that myself), do drugs and drink alcohol.
Liam Myers
Orginallito spaghettito kek
Noah Long
I don't think that I'll go crazy to the extent where I'll try to kill others. Honestly, it seems like they're all doing it themselves at the end of the day.
Jeremiah Martinez
Holy shit are you seriously thinking, we, of all people, would be able to make it in a societal collapse scenario ? The only reason we exist in the first place is exactly the lack of natural selection in human populations
You're addressing it all wrong following literal lunatics like that kaczinsky guy
>buh muh IQ
Geniuses can be lunatic and just outright wrong/misleaded. Christ, stop worshipping someone just because he/she is better at visualizing objects and identifying patterns on a test.
What really is fucking western society and creating a mass of miserable wageslaves is the treachery made by our governments that literally financed slave farms called third world countries so w couldn't have bargaining power when choosing our occupations
>buh muh free marker!!!
Free market without the moral components that originated it and allowing the existence of literal inhuman slaves competing against citizens that know their rights and have an sense of dignity is just as atrocious as stalinism/maoism/nazism.
This is the point user, most of us won't make it. As I've previously mentioned, most of us are an artificial creation of pest-like human beings that live due to the luxurious technologies that we've discovered. Also, I would rather die trying to survive than live till the end of my days off welfare/dead end job
Joseph White
Well, I try to take a neutral approach to it but what I'm suggesting really at the end of the day, is that we should consider going back.
Angel Bell
Fine eugenics and less suffering, sounds great right?
John Robinson
If you ask me society has already collapsed and we are in the fucking deathrows where it's not a question of if shit hits the fan, but simply when? I mean just look around you at the rampant degeneracy and worship of mamonism above all else I mean there is no way such a society is even remotely feasible let alone sustainable I mean for Christ sake just read about the collapse of ancient civilisations and you will see that we tick every circumstantial box just as they did.
But in essence despite all this we will be much better setting the clock back as a humble hunter gatherer society in a time before everything was corrupted by greedy jews, questioning philosophers, multicultralists, technology and normies Because let's face it when your only inate human need is survival both personal and racial, society automatically enters a golden age where we are closest to nature and pushed to our hardest to a point where the gene pool is purified to make way for the strongest of humanity. >Inb4 I couldn't give a fuck if I died in a fammime to make way for the betterment of humanity it would save me the hassle of buying rope.
No user, the point I was trying to make was that you shouldn't be advocating for this suicidal shit and rather be advocating for more protecionism, less taxes on home industry, strong benefits for working citizens and end of real estate monopolizing and exploitation.
The reason you're all suffering is because your authorities have set up the game against you and in favor of superficially charming chads and stacies to flock to the only service jobs available.
