Living in a Van

>For a start, your cooler will not cool the van down you thermodynamicslet.
Why?

I have reflextix on all the windows, I can take on and off with magnets.

I'm going to make something like this:
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OP if you need help in design on total van, I will work for free with AutoCAD or Solidworks to help you design this

Shouldn't you have a toilet in there somewhere? What about a fridge? Hose is fine but how will you collect water?

4/10, would consider.

Because the heat thrown off by the cooler into the van will always be more than the cooling from the ice it makes. You would have to vent the heat from the cooler outside somehow, or just run the cooler outside to make ice and turn it off when you bring it inside.

If you want to help sure I guess.
Keep in mind I'm extremely lazy and I'm going to wing most of this anyway when I'm actually building it.
>Shouldn't you have a toilet in there somewhere?
Piss in bottles or walmart/mcdonalds etc bathrooms.
>What about a fridge?
Look at the diagram again.

>Hose is fine but how will you collect water?
Every time you run out, there are places that fill water for you, for cheap.

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you should get an induction stove then you don't have to store propain, you can run everything off an inverter

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Hey. That's pretty good. Would consider. 7/10

Make sure the icebox is outside in some shade and insulated. Then bring prepared ice inside. Also, make sure the heat sink of your freezer and fridge is outside the van or you'll be surprised

>Because the heat thrown off by the cooler into the van will always be more than the cooling from the ice it makes.
Read the image on how the cooler works.
I have to throw ice blocks into it to keep it running.
The only thing running is the low watt water pump and a simple fan.

Also let me ask you a question.
If it's the summer, should I put insulation in the van to keep the cold air inside?
Or would that simply turn it into a oven where the hot air stays in?

Wheres the power for all this?
How do you plan to regularly bathe?
How the hell are you going to be able to clean this shit with no room?

It uses too many watts. That's why I needed the propane for my heater in the winter.

I'm thinking about it though because I found out I can buy solar panels with more watts.

>Also, make sure the heat sink of your freezer and fridge is outside the van or you'll be surprised
I can vent it maybe.

No point using insulation, especially lofted.
Lofted needs shit loads of room to be effective and loses 85% of its usefulness at 5% water retention.
Could use polyisocyanurate but that's still requiring a lot of space.
This is a primary reason why people don't live in vans btw

Bro when your freezer makes ice, it pulls heat form the freezer compartment and rejects it into surroundings like a pump. Imagine a water pump that pumps heat from your freezer insides to a reservoir that is your van. Keep the heat sink of freezer outside the van and you gucci.

There is a point in using insulation. Also, buy a big ass umbrella for your RV. Heat insolation alone can be upto 1.4kW/m2 if exposed open. In shade, it goes all the way down to 700 w/m2 max.

For insulation, a rough asbestos brown coat can be done at any shop or you can stuff it 5 mm rockwool on the outside

Sounds fun for a month but I'd imagine eventually you'll want a real bed with a real night's sleep, cops and criminals not banging on your windows at all hours, not being chased out of parking spots, not smelling like a pile of socks, storage, gas, a real bathroom, not living in a legal grey area or having an address

>Wheres the power for all this?
Solar, read the image.

>How do you plan to regularly bathe?
Public pools.

>How the hell are you going to be able to clean this shit with no room?
Just keep it clean, no issues.

>rough asbestos
Absolutely disgusting.

As it stands your idea is no different to trying to cool your house down by leaving the fridge door open. Fridges just move heat from one place to another, and unless that other place is outside, you aren't cooling your van down.

yeah I'm going to vent it now that you guys are telling me this

People online who do this are saying insulation works wonders in the winters but it might not be good in the summer to keep cool air in.
Can you respond to this? Thanks.

>eventually you'll want a real bed
Why? I would have like 6-8 inch memory foam with a down topper.

>cops and criminals not banging on your windows at all hours
lol I would block out windows, it would look like a car is parked there
people do this all of the time and have no issues
just dont do this in a shitty area
I'm probably going to park at the rich part of town and use their walmart

Isn't it taking the cold air from the ICE block and pumping it into the Van?

I don't see where the hot air is coming from. It's simply pumping cold air from a container of ice.

only like 30% of walmarts allow, got out of hand.
I know, i work in store, constantly chasing away rv's, trying to use lot as free rv park.
there are more ppl living in vehicles in the san diego area than you could possibly believe.
desu, you walk up to them, they ALL reek to high hell. have as _few_ fabrics (carpet, upholstery, coverings, etc.) as possible. Make it so you can wipe down as much as possible. You won't regret it. Smell is huge.

You'll meet a homeless woman, she'll move in, watch. good luck.

it's a massive, unreported story.
I know this.

>only like 30% of walmarts allow, got out of hand.
oh well, I'll find one.
I've seen a bunch here in Canada.

>Smell is huge.
I'll wash all my shit every month probably

>it's a massive, unreported story.
God damn the economy of california sucks

>Absolutely Disgusting. I was trying you could save some money on it. Get urethene for all I care. Why not get those nano air gels Mr. millionaire

get rid of all that shit, just put in a bed, blanket, pillow and something you can piss and shit in

I>ts taking the cold air from the ICE block and pumping in into the van
With an issue. Suppose Ice block is at 4 degrees temperature. Van temperature is at 23 degrees. Its not that 4 degree air is entering 23 degree atmosphere. Its that the Ice block temperature is going down form 4 to 0 degrees and all that heat mCp(DeltaT) along with heat engine efficiency is being leaked into your 23 degree system. There's a coiling at back which rejects the heat. Make sure that coiling is out of van and if you can, dip it in a water pond or stream. Your efficiency in electricity will double my friend

>>it's a massive, unreported story.God damn the economy of california sucks
the press never reports on the 'hidden homeless'. i mean, there are so many homeless in san diego, it's stunning, scary, crazy. society shouldn't be like this. something's really screwed with our system. drive around the industrial area of Clairemont/Kearny Mesa area of san diego. crazy ass shit going on, completely invisible to the media.

you should also consider pop out solutions, awning and grill and stuff
or just getting a hitch trailer all-together
or even just living in a trailer park
they're probably quiet most of the time and you can get some real nice trailers these days better than apartments in cities

I wouldn't want anything with Asbestos even remotely near me.
That wool stuff seems good though, thanks.

and be bored out of my mind and too cold/too hot?

>There's a coiling at back which rejects the heat. Make sure that coiling is out of van and if you can, dip it in a water pond or stream.
Sorry, can you explain this more. What coiling is this?

There's no economy there. It's been regulated out of existence.

>you should also consider pop out solutions, awning and grill and stuff
Considered it but I would have nowhere to do this unless I went to a campsite.
They're closed after a certain amount of hours though.
Then again, I might do it anyway.

There's a gas coil at the back of most fridges. In america I guess they cover it to prevent electric shocks but you can have its cover removed and extend the coil. Then make a pool of water outside in a tub and dip all coils like dehumidifier, freezer, fridge etc in it. Install a small overhead sprinkler in it so that remains forever cool due to evaporative cooling and you my friend will thank me and will actually be able to live out of the van

thanks for the information user

going to use this

Congratulation on Trips and I am the user who asked you if you needed AutoCAD help. If you need help, drop your discord if you want to chat

Thanks, but I'm too lazy to plan this out with autocad. I'll do the best I can just measuring and cutting

Sad life of a robot

>Be me
>Feeling alone and useless with my degree and job that I quit due to health reasons
>No new jobs in sight
>See user needs help
>"Hey user. I'll help you"
>"No thanks Bud"
>FeelsBadMan

Why won't anyone talk to me?

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let's follow this until you realise your error yourself.

First, where are you getting the block of ice from? How do you intend to make it?

What will you do food? Water?
You can live in van but you need a place to park it and a source of income. Or learn how to capture squirrels and rabbits, skin them and eat them.

How are you gonna earn money for food and electricity?

how could you even design this for me, you would need all of the interior dimensions of a dodge caravan 2007
Is there any way you could do this by only looking at my mspaint drawing?
If so that would be cool

>First, where are you getting the block of ice from?
a store
I'm not making ICE in my freezer.
Also my fridge/freezer will be vented outside.

>What will you do food? Water?
microwave meals/cooking food on the propane stove
I will fill up jugs of water

>You can live in van but you need a place to park it and a source of income.
walmart
I have a job

My job?
I'm not a bum.

I mean I can scale everything with the dimensions of the shit you are going to put in and make it encased. then its upto you to see if what you are planning to fit gets in or not. I just wanted to help

Would you be willing to do 98% of the work in creating this in autocad?
If so yes, lets do this.

Give me dimensions of the stuff you are planning to put in first. If its enough, I'll doit

>a store
In that case you're fine then, they've dumped the heat for you

However, I will say that I've run some experiments on cooling using blocks of ice, fans and copper pipes, and it isn't the most effective. What may work quite well for you is an ultrasonic fogger immersed in a bath of ice cold water with a fan blowing over it, the effect is much better.

His dehumidifier will cry a river then.

damn, that's the thing
I don't know everything right now
some of the products I'm still looking into which ones to buy

Oh well. Thanks anyway

>However, I will say that I've run some experiments on cooling using blocks of ice, fans and copper pipes, and it isn't the most effective.
Of course, that's fine though. As long as it works somewhat.

I don't have any other option because real air conditioning uses a fuckton of watts I simply do not have.

sorry, when I say 'isn't the most effective' I mean it cools down a small space by something like 1C, I'm prone to understatement

The thing about cooling is that it isn't easy to do with low power, unless you use evaporative cooling (the fogger method) which uses the high heat capacity of water to its advantage, at the expense of making your air humid. AC eats up the watts because it needs to; it takes a lot of energy to move heat around.

Wow someone did something similar to what I'm doing using the same van

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See What did I say? His dehumidifier will burn out due to the load. and, a simple atmomizer or mist spray can work as well.
Ultrasonic fogger will take up more energy and worst part is critting of big droplets of water

I've seen videos on youtube of people using DIY air coolers like this and they worked quite well in small spaces like bathrooms etc

im not going to use the fogger/swamp cooler method

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>all this amateur hour climate control bullshit
The point of van living is to live in a mild coastal area where you don't worry about the weather.
Past that, just use the god damn van's AC and heater. Get a bunch of extra car batteries in series that charge from the panels.

>Past that, just use the god damn van's AC and heater.
>literally idling for 30 days straight
goodbye engine

Why not just buy a camper OP?

Just buy some more car batteries and put them in a daisy-chain that charges from solar panels.

>Just buy some more car batteries and put them in a daisy-chain that charges from solar panels.
literally what I'm doing though
except not with shit car batteries.
im using solar batteries

It STILL wouldn't be enough watts for a proper AC though,especially at night with no sun.
Trust me.

>running the AC at night
Not the right mindset. It's a vehicle, drive it somewhere pleasant to live.

>drive it somewhere pleasant to live.
how would that help with my being too hot problem?

>No toilet nor shower
Yeah, must be very comfy for the first 6 hours or so.

Plenty of people live like this. It's a whole subculture. A lot of people actually go whole hog and disguise their living vans or trucks as fleet vehicles and try to park near other fleet vehicles in large parking lots.

If you do this, don't be a dick. Don't shit all over the place and beg for "gas money" and you won't get the management of Walmart and shit all riled up. Learn where your national forests are for free and comfy short term living, but don't shit up the forests.

Complete normie here but
...why not get a bigger vehicle?
Also you should try something like, making a simple box the size of your van, put it in your current bedroom, and try sleeping in it for a few nights first.

>...why not get a bigger vehicle?
much lower fuel economy and the van would cost more

>making a simple box the size of your van, put it in your current bedroom, and try sleeping in it for a few nights first.
I already live in a car in my friends garage desu