Body proportions

Read thatc your biceps and calves should be roughly the same circumference for optimal aesthetics, also that in profile, your thighs should be roughly the same thickness as your shoulders. I've also heard that shoulder-to-waist ratio should be approximately 1.618:1. Obviously height has much influence on proper proportions as well, though that is not practically alterable.

Does anyone train specifically for ideal proportions? If so, do you feel the proportions I've outlined above are near ideal, or do you prefer other ratios?

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Don't even bother worrying about shit like this, it serves you literally no purpose.
Body proportions like this are 95% genetics. You can't train for this unless you're a bodybuilder using drugs and even then you're limited by your body's genetic bone structure.

Basically, if you don't have a decent V taper before you start training, you might as well forget about getting a "1.618:1" shoulders to waist ratio. It's not happening

You can lose weight and grow your side delts (to an extent) though. This is probably one of the easier ratios to achieve.

Shoulder width of 20" with 30" waist, feelsgoodman.

there is no point in living if you arent Heroic, 9HDS

Side delts play such an insignificant role in width for natties. Again you're limited by genetics hear. Much like the bicep peak, the side delt has a sort of peak to them to but going out to the side. This is 100% determined by muscle belly size and insertion.
There's a reason bodybuilders on drugs even struggle with this bodypart. Its because it was never designed to grow that big and lift 30+ pounds in a side raise.

Its ironic. Guys with small frames that need extra width struggle like a motherfucker to get a barely noticeable improvement in width from their delts, but guys with big frames that don't need extra width can not only get BETTER delt gains but far easier too. Its a fucking joke. You're literally born with it you're not.

This is true. I've always had naturally broad shoulders that made me look like I was a gymrat even when I was 100% sedentary. And then when I started lifting, they just got even bigger. Frame really does matter greatly.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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What are you trying to prove to me by showing me a roided bodybuilder?
(Where it's still obvious he has a poor frame)

I was a scrawny shrimp in high school but powerlifting with heavy deadlifts and pull ups widened my shoulders out considerably. One friend commented on my physique "wow, you look wider". Anecdote, I know, but still shows you shouldn't just write off your proportions.

>What are you trying to prove to me
That you are a dyel who knows nothing about building muscle. That fact that you don’t recognize Lee Priest, is more than enough for me to throw your opinion in the trash where it belongs. Now gtfo.

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It’s sad that you use Priest to cope with your sad frame

>checked

>oooo oooo look at me i follow bodybuilding and i know tons of muscular shirtless mens names off by heart

pic related is wider and more aesthetic than the guy you posted while also being 10x smaller

frame is everything

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Do I divide my height by head length to my height in heads? If so I'm 10 heads tall.

>just work on your delts bro, works for me

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You do realize this roid raging manlet body builder you admire so much has wrote off his body with all the gear

Is it weird that I find left more aesthetic? I've always found the small frame with huge traps aesthetic cool looking

pic related; I train to look like an uruk hai berserker

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not all that surprising since the right has fucked up proportions because of camera trickery
and fucked up proportions are generally unaesthetic as fuck

i never understood the fuss over this picture
the guy on the left is hunched forward and the guy on the right is taken at an angle and photoshopped. if you look up the guy on the right his proportions look nothing like that

Fuaaaaaark, literal goal body. What are this guy's stats?

cope