Psychedelics

What are some negative side effects of psychedelics?

bad trips can be rough and seem like they will never end
I ate some mushrooms alone one time and cried for hours because I convinced myself I was the worst person to ever exist

mushrooms are natural and can be interesting a few times and then never again

everything else is degenerate and youre a drugged out loser

I used to do a lot of psychedelics back in high school. I have mixed feelings about them. On one hand they helped me get through a rough depression and gave me new insights into reality, on the other hand the really messed with my short term memory and ability to tell time, they also made me ignore a lot of things about myself that needed to be addressed. I'm sober now, I no longer do psychedelics, smoke weed, or even drink, not because I was addicted, but because I feel that they are not beneficial to the development of myself to become my greatest version. Since being sober, I've come to realize that I have only done drugs because I hated myself and I wanted to forget about who I was. I won't lie to you, I think psychedelics offer an amazing experience that do not compare to any other. If you decide to try them, be responsible and only do it once or twice. There's really no use to doing them more than that. If you want a spiritual experience I would recommend Salvia since it didn't mess with my mind as much as acid or shrooms, and it was the most insightful and spiritual of the psychedelics that I've taken. Acid is the most fun, hands down and it is the one that helped me with my depression the most. Be responsible.

Nothing really. Hard to abuse, no physical detriment. Mentally, if you’re not ready, you’re not ready. I’ve only taken 100 mcg once and I think it’s the perfect first dose. If you have a bad trip, you can really get fucked up. But that dose is Low enough to ground yourself in reality but still have some introspective thoughts and be beneficial.

this.

/thread

so how do you get the most out of a trip? just sit in darkness and meditate?

LSD is hard to find and what is usually pushed as LSD is some NBOME trash that can kill you. Finding the right supplies to extract DMT is getting harder to find. So that leaves mushrooms; spores are legal in most states to own and kits/bags for monotubs are cheap as shit.

Attached: 23523.gif (200x200, 979K)

fully agree, except for the salvia part. that shit will fuck you up

have lots of activities to do and do it with a two or three close friends

1p-LSD s unregulated and pretty much similar to regular LSD. Can even order it online.

yeah, it fucked my one friend up, but me and my other friend had great experiences, I think your mindset going in has a lot to do with how it affects you

I have a cousin who has been suffering from psychosis ever since she did shrooms. Psychedelics don't cause (permanent) psychosis, but if you're predisposed to it it can bring it out.

Wan't to try some. Can't get any.

Be with friends in nature or a cool house, one of the best trips I had was at a party with a bonfire in a backyard that had christmas lights and loud bass music

Yup

t. Had horrible salvia trip

I agree that it's not "spiritual", but saying it's your brain confusing itself isn't accurate either.

I think that's more true of dmt(ayahuasca) than lsd. I've taken both and even on high doses lsd is much less introspective,and much more "woah the rocks are moving", to me at least.

They contain 0 calories, so there's that.

For me , high doses of LSD was extremely introspective, I mean uncomfortable levels of introspection where all your darkest deepest thoughts are laid bare in front of you and you can't escape it.

Since when do mushrooms contain no calories?

why not just get ayahuasca. You can order stuff for it pretty much anywhere and its rly easy.
psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Ayahuasca_smoothie&_=

Every person that I've met who does any form of psychedelics is a loser or has serious mental issues. With this I only fear that any sort of psychedelic use will make me as much of a loser as they are.

fair enough, most I've done is I think around 250-300ug and it was mostly just fun and games. aya on the other hand strips you of your ego even on lower doses. Many people say high doses of acid and shrooms are very similar to ayahuasca. Aya however has few to no open eye visuals.

Lots of successful people take shrooms on a yearly basis. They just don't make it publicly known because it's not necessary. You need to make new friends if you regularly meet loud druggies. Make friends with successful people, not losers.

Probably true for people who use them habitually (in fact I know a few where this is true) because they're using them to distract/disassociate themselves from the loser they've become.

However I make 6 figures and the 3 times I did mushrooms were some of the greatest/most influential moments in my life

Trust me, you didn't do 300ug by the sound of your trips. Most tabs are very underdosed than advertised, unless you got them from the darknet from a very reputable seller (whose tabs were tested ).
Or possibly you were sold something like 25i as LSD which fits on a blotter. If it's bitter it's a spitter

I usually stay at home, solo dolo if I'm doing a tab (170ug).Half tabs if with a friend. I like to play my instruments (piano/guitar) play a vidya game or two. At the peak I smoke a tiny amount if weed to kick it higher. At this point I look at some paintings I have in my room (pic attached is one of them), lay down and just chill. I like to let the mind race and I find my ego often breaks down several time during the trip, some walls larger than others. I personally describe this as 'dying'

You can do tabs just to have fun but you can get deep into yourself if you want. I would listen to Alan Watts or Terrence McKenna talk about lsd if your curious. They lean on the more spiritual side of drugs and they have proven useful to me. McKenna himself recommends total darkness in your room with music.

Basically, as long as you feel mentally comfortable to trip you'll (usually) be ok, and you'll learn alot.

Oh and the type of psychedelic matters too.

Attached: image.jpg (4032x3024, 1.96M)

Just be sure you want to do it before you do it. My senses are a little different than they used to be, and it never went away. Sometimes I'll see something ugly, and it makes me smell shit. Or I eat an apple, and the colors of what I'm looking at explode in brilliance.

This, your visuals are distorted

because it doesnt fucking work most of the time
literally ruined a fucking cooking pot trying to make that shit work

I've tripped like 10 times and this never happened, not even while tripping. I'm kind of jelly if you're telling the truth desu.

>250-300ug and it was mostly just fun and games
simply impossible

>I recommend salvia

Way to lose all your credibility in one sentence

Do you experience flashbacks or anything of the sort?

what? I've made it 6 times so far and not once was it a dud.
Literally all you have to do is grind the syrian rue and take it 30 min before the mimosa. It doesnt even matter how you take it.

Don't get me wrong, it was some scary shit, I was seeing people age forwards and backward, the rocks were bleeding hyeroglyphs, When it was night I would see zombies on the ground and feel them grabbing my ankles, I was halucinating people to the left and right of me(and some of it was introspective, like insight into my fears and all that) but compared to aya it was nowhere near.
Maybe it was just me being awed at the visuals and since I had already done aya for a few really breakthrough trips(some of which were pure terror) I didnt feel the need to look into myself.
Fun and games is relative, to someone that hadn't done psychedelics before, that could have been a very bad trip. Hell for the first 1-2 hrs I could hardly move for the tension.

Psychosis is a pretty big fucking risk. You may never come out of it. Almost everyone knows someone who lost their damn mind of psychedelics.

Bad trips can also suck and fuck you up for a long time. I had a bad one two years ago which led to panic attacks manifesting. Believe it or not though it was a good thing in the long run.

Attached: 1533054402933s.jpg (250x221, 4K)

Speak for yourself, I know a lot of people who do psychedelics and they're fine (just a little weird but they all were like that before). Psychosis is a risk if you have mental illness running in your family.

I'd take that risk 10 times over for the change it had on my life.
The biggest thing to not getting into bad trips is being able to let go of control and just going with it, no matter how scary it is.
Also I know about 20 people that have dabbled in psychedelics and I know of nobody that is a schizo.

i didn't realize it had such a bad reputation, i thought it was pretty great

kek this

You never know if you'll get mindfucked, that's the thing. No one knows how psychosis works but it seems to be a pretty alarming 'coincidence' that tons of insane people got that way from taking drugs.

>The biggest thing to not getting into bad trips is being able to let go of control and just going with it, no matter how scary it is.

Easier said than done. Bad Trips a

*Bad trips are quite literally a trip to hell. No guarantee you'll make it out

Depersonalization/derealization. Can fuck you up, though it usually goes away with time.

How would you say it changed you?

I am quite confident that, as an old man looking back at my life, I will continue to see my first ayahuasca ceremony as one of the most important pivot points in my life.

it made me much more comfortable with ambiguity, not needing to analyse everything to the nth degree. much more tolerant of others who see things/think/live differently, which has actually become a boon when entering into debate/discussion with them.

it helped me see lots of my behaviours as motivated by ego, and in reality not helpful for me at all.

I think everyone (those with predispositions/risk factors for psychosis aside) should try psychedelics at least once as a coming of age ritual. they are, to my mind, like liquid openmindedness: they help you realise that the way you habitually look at the world is just that- a habit - and not the world itself. it's just one way of perceiving and interacting with reality, and there are other options available...

completely got rid of my anxiety/desperation. Gave me new purpose.
I went from that shy kid that barely talks to anyone( at one point it got so bad I was having panic attacks about social interaction), to being able to talk to anyone without any stress whatsoever, never planning what I am going to say next. It also allowed me to become fully present instead of being in my mind all the time.
Even when I'm having a bad experience with something I don't suffer anymore. I recognize the sadness/anger/unheimlichkeit and accept it and suddenly it doesnt affect me anymore, or even goes away. On the flip side I can enjoy positive emotions so much more fully.
Resolved some past trauma/blockages so was able to let go of bottled emotion.
And as an added benefit the good trips are really fucking good. I remember one time, for about 1 minute straight I felt like my soul was having an orgasm.
I don't know how you could get addicted to this stuff though, it takes me at least 3 weeks to get ready for another trip ( aya only lasts 4 hours), even when the last one was 100% amazing.

LSD is awesome. For some reason I never had good luck with mushrooms. Smoked DMT once but didn't think I had enough of it, I just felt kind of stoned for a few minutes. Funny how this thread pops up today; I haven't tripped in about 3 years and was thinking about doing it again soon. Don't feel comfortable ordering on the darknet though.

Not OP but I think flashbacks are pretty uncommon. There was a rumor going around that if you crack your back in a certain way you could trigger a previous trip. But again, that was just a rumor. As for me, I've noticed if I'm really hungover and stare at one spot long enough it'll start "waving" as things tend to do on LSD.

Can you even trust street lsd? Where can you even get it tested?

Had my first shroom trip at 18 and had to prepare for a whole year before I could try them again.

For Acid i need a minimum of 3 weeks it seems (2 trips so far).

I'm worried about storage though. have it in a airtight container in my drawer.

Ehrlich reagent, Marquis reagent to name a few

I don't trust street psychedlics. Exclusively cop from your 'best' friends. I'm not saying you won't score on the street shit but picking your drug dealers is in my mind like picking generals in a war or some shit.

first time taking psychedelics and I'm planning on eating 5 grams of shrooms. Anything I should know?

I've never had shrooms and for acid I think I need at least 5-6 weeks. I was talking about ayahuasca(oral DMT).
Then again I know people that have taken it like 10 times in 2 weeks the first time they got their hands on it. Slowed down massively since then but still, idk how they could do it.

>going heroic in the first dose

Please report back. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's called the heroic dose for a reason!

maybe do 3 instead

I'm hoping so man. I want to go fully introspective.
but I'm a grown ass man

if you are a control freak, you'd better take it slow.
Regardless it's advisable to have someone nearby that you can call in case it goes bad.
This isn't like anything else. Once you've taken it you can't get off the ride, and there is nowhere you can hide.
Make sure you are in an environment where you wont care if you sperg out.

I have only done acid and MDMA, and I love them both - acid in particular is a 16 hour non stop blissful laugh for me. However I recognize the dangers and do acid perhaps once a year and MDMA more like thrice a year.

I have some DMT at home but I've never done it.

Another user I have very slight good which has zero impact on my life just visual static Inthe dark and halos off corners sometimes

>Once you've taken it you can't get off the ride, and there is nowhere you can hide.

This. Don't take this lightly, I once had a bad trip and it felt like I was a soldier in WWI that got shot in no man's land and slowly bled to death while I was weeping and calling for my mommy while the bullets flew over me. That's how helpless and scared I was. I was hugging the stair pole while playing familiar calming music while I waited for the oxazepam to kick in to stop the trip and I felt no comfort whatsoever.

I usually take for introspection not DUDE GET HIGH LMAO
Shrooms > LSD

Attached: 1526047592897.png (400x333, 91K)

If you take 5gr dried for your first time without someone there you are likely to end in a mental ward, hurt yourself, or be permanently scarred with PTSD.

It's because it's your first time and you don't know what to expect so you are nervous and then it sets in and will be way more intense than you anticipated which will make you subconsciously scared which will turn the trip into a nightmare.

>Weed raises Estrogen levels:
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

>Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

>Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation :
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

>Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

also thats my pepe

>Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2484906
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463999/
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055821
pnas.org/content/111/47/16913.full
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3593817/

>Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122896
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166005#sec013

>Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352721/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/

Attached: 2pac pepe.png (1000x1000, 190K)

You should do one for alcohol too

I did 250ug my first time and it was fun, played some vidya and then had a luaghing fit for an hour but got prretty paranoid that I was being judged after that. But then I snapped out of it and had fun again

But user, psychedelics are not even in the same league as weed. Or are you so clueless that you don't know that?

>I did 250ug
No you didn't

Tripping hard on lsd cure my chronic depression and gave me a much better outlook on life. I did it one about 18month ago and I have really got my shit together since then. I also see beauty in small things like a jet flying through the crystal clear blue skies of south east queensland.

Haven't smoked weed in a week and I've been noticably hornier. My mood is about the same though

weed is not a psychedelic.

Sleeping pills man. Dreamless sleep is a good safehouse while the chemicals run their course.

>You'll never know if you get mindfucked

Yes, we do know when. Anyone with a family history of mental illness or mental trauma is when.

You can't just assume everything is fake and gay without posting?

They cause your brain to fire in ways that don't reflect reality. Then again, we're barely able to tell what really is going on anyway, and it's all fairly abstracted from our actual mind (whatever that is).

Has my first LSD trip a few days ago.
Still processing everything I experienced. It was at times overwhelming and frightening but in a beautiful way.
Sort of off topic, but anyone know how to eat HBWR/MG without nausea/stomach cramps? Cold water extraction? Holding crushed seeds under your tongue?

I've had this for 2+ years after tripping on shrooms. I think it's going away very gradually, hard to tell after this long. You kinda forget what normal feels like

bumping for interest

The nasuea/hypertension is generally caused by the other-than-LSA alkaloids in the seeds.
This can be curved by CWE as you mentioned. Make sure to embark upon every step in the method thoroughly, lest you wish for chair-locking pain coursing through each of your limbs (speaking from experience, chewed 8 or 10 seeds a couple years back, chucked the rest in the trasher)

I did lsd with my gf for the first time last week,it was weird but in a good way,my ciggarette felt like it was bending in my hand and I felt like an alien in the gas station trying to buy more ciggaretts,plus I managed to stomp a house centipede but I tried to make friends with It,and it made me feel warm and turned my legs to jelly,plus I just did not even think about sex

I also saw a level between the trees just for a very brief moment,it looked like a street but more metal in nature for whatever reason and I heard music in the house bit could not find It,it sounded really peaceful it was a women's voice but more electric

Thanks for sharing, I would like to hear more on the ears hallucination

this is very much how I feel. When I discovered shrooms and acid (about a year apart) I had incredible transcendent and life-changing experiences. I did them with introspective intent a few times and then came "I wonder what [insert anything here] is like on shrooms/acid?". I found out a ton of really incredible and beautiful things. But one day I accidentally took 660ug of lsd thinking I was only taking 220ug... I went to hell and I was stuck in it for thousands of years. I was stuck in terrifying, horrible loop after terrifying horrible loop. My body disintegrated and I was tortured by every demon in the universe. It was the actual worst experience of my life.
To me, it was the chemical telling me to back the fuck off because I was abusing it. I was just trying to have some silly fun and it put me in my place real fucking hard. I gained a lot of respect for it and have only gone back a couple of times and with a much more gracious attitude. And each time, it called me back.

Attached: acid.jpg (1680x1050, 488K)

I had it all my life so doing shrooms sort of made it more intense but far more comfortable for a few months.
Would like to do them again since lately it's been getting a little worse.

Garbage for degenerates.
Just like this shit website.

Noisy children should learn to shut their mouths

They're all bullshit. Anyone who tells you a trip changed their life has a boring and shallow life.

Try it if you're curious, but don't expect anything special. Most of the time psychedelics just made me feel physically and mentally ill.

LSD is useless. It is nothing comapared to meditation/prayer

I'm not sure how to describe it but it made me feel food and safe and warm and it sounded really surreal it gave me good vibes