Do the weights need to be in the right order?

It literally is heavier that way.
>inb4 autism

your hands on the bar bell are simultaneously upward force AND the lever. Therefore the further out the weight is, the heavier it will be to lift. It's the same reason people put their arms down by their side instead of T-posing when weighing themselves on a scale.

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>Flat edged weights and not round weights.

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The thing is that for a barbell you'll never get what the weight says it is due to how torque works.
If you have a 20kg weight on each side of your barbell and they're each 50cm away from the middle of the bar(e.g the centre of mass) then you're actually only lifting 10kg on each side since the torque is the force multiplied by the distance from the centre of mass.
Unless your barbell is 2 meters long and you only have one weight on each side it's an unwinnable battle.
That being said if you put the heavier weights on the outside then it will weigh more.

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Kind of
From a physics standpoint the only thing it impacts is torque
A plate on the very edge of the bar might "feel" heavier than a plate up against the gaurd but that just has to do with how much support you have to push the weight

So long as their in the same wierd order on both sides then it makes literally no difference

it's actually cool to do it if you use bumper plates

It actually affects muscle growth, just like how grips on dumb bell matters.

I guess; but only if they're symmetrical.

If you have a 45 on the end of the left side after three 10s, and on the right a 45 against the grip and three 10s, it is still technically the same weight, but the distribution will be different.

Grips on a dumbell is a completely different type of force interaction than plates on a barebell
Tell me what muscle is not getting as good of a workout with the plate displacement and why, and if possible, what muscles are instead being worked rather than the chest

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Is this being a high school athlete chad? Or being a calisthenics guy

My CON gives me a +3 bonus. I can do this

doing a t pose on the scale won't make you heavier, because you still have the same mass. It could make your arms tired and is extremely pointless which is why people don't do it

Nice

It only really matters insofar as your balance and bar pathing control. So you probably shouldn't do it unless you know what you're doing and why. Even then you probably shouldn't be doing it because I doubt you have some secret the rest of the world of far more accomplished and experienced lifters hasn't discovered yet.

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Absurdly incorrect. Most bars are rigid.
Nice troll attempt tho.

Youre misunderstanding how torque works
Torque is not a unit of force, it is a unit all its own, comprised of force multiplied by distance from the axel point
The only reason it would feel heavier would be if you had no counter balance, which isnt true i this scenario

They will affect moments(weight x distance). This could actually mess you up a bit on pho, leta say you for a pr of 135.
You could juat put 2 45s amd call it a day, or you can be asking for the gym to atare at you thinking you have downs if you use 9 5s on each side.
That wont be as much effect I think. But lets say you have 45 5 5 5 5 5 5 on each side.
If you ordwmer it that way it would be fine.
An ordering of 5 5 5 5 5 5 45 would be considerable.

this is the only correct answer.

the bar is not heavier, the torque is offset (assuming you put the plates in the same configuration on the opposite side) but suppose your bar wobbles a quarter centimeter to one side or the other (as it often does during exercise), stabilizing it is much harder the further out the weights are. so in effect this will work muh staiblizers harder. or you will die, either way go to qtddtot

Its the same weight idiot, it would weigh the same

>t. Brainlet who works at mcdobalds
If it's the right weights than it doesn't matter you retards kys.

Thanks. Yeah, the ONLY reason I could see for it is to work on your stabilizing on the lower weights, and definitely not your max or your heaviest working weight. Or for you to check to see if your stabilization is as solid as you think it is.

But realistically there are probably better and safer ways to work on your stabilization, such as using cable towers. You really don't want to play around with heavy barbells, even if you do it in a rack.

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i gave this some thought too, the lift will be harder because the heaviest plate is farther away from your hands

Well you know what happened when the red viper fought the mountain

troll physics is back niggas

I guess it has to be identical for both sides, but the order doesnt matter. The only thing that changes is the center of mass, so if you load the same weight but in a different order (and these weights are somehow different widths) than the center of mass changes, which in turn will put more load on the left or right depending on where the center is

Yeah and use round plate if you want them to touch the ground envenly

Wrong braincel
If the heaviest plates are both equally further away from your hands they balance each other out

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i call this the burger approach to adding weights

Peole like him act as experts on the internet. Thats why you should always be careful

Just realized most of Jow Forumsis low IQ and doesnt understand school physics.

>REEEE STOP TRYING TO GIVE ANSWERS AND EXPLAIN THINGS YOU S O Y B O Y S REEEEEE
fuck off

This is the chad way of doing it

>these are the people giving you advice on Jow Forums

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Mostly to placate OP's OCD.

Since you are performing a deep analysis, did you take into account the effect of altitude on gravitation?

The right order just puts less stress on the bar. The more centered the weight is, the less you'll feel any imbalance of weight. Most important part is that each side is symmetrical so it's easier to have an even grip. That's all.

>this is the level of bait that people will fall for

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I work out in my basement. Does that affect the required placement of plates on the bar, given the variable of acceleration of gravity down there? My bro says I should build a garage gym so I can workout at ground level for maximum gains, otherwise I might as well be doing yoga.

Yes.

>telling people you leveled up dex

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Technically no, so long as they're in the same order on both sides. However, it makes more sense to keep the heavier weights closer to the midline, in order to reduce any sort of torque from slight deviations in symmetry during your lift.

This is the patrician engineering answer.