Is virginity important to you? If so why? Is it because you're (not) a virgin? Is it because you would feel insecure she would be comparing you to past guys? Are you concerned her attachment/connection would be less because of past partners?
Is virginity important to you? If so why? Is it because you're (not) a virgin...
Mostly because of stigma which gets worse the older you get.
>Is virginity important to you?
no if i wanted a virgin i would hit up one of the amish communities and take what i wanted. They are often so starved for genetic material they will trade a daughter for you dumping into two or three other girls.
> Is it because you're (not) a virgin? Is it because you would feel insecure she would be comparing you to past guys? Are you concerned her attachment/connection would be less because of past partners?
i already know it will be and ya it makes me insecure as fuck but im also 23 khv so i have to just deal with the punishment of my choices.
had i done better in my life before 20 i could of had a chance but i was a coward and weak so i have to deal with sloppy seconds and forever being behind my peers.
There are worse things in life sure but its still something i have no idea how to solve and will be with me for the rest of my life because of that
I had sex at 13 because of some roastie at a party i was at with my friends ( trying to be cool edge lords ) brought alcohol with her. i jizzed on my friends carpet and ii don't think he has cleaned it.
Wtf is going in that pic? Sauce or moar
I think it's a pride thing combined with disgust .
Well, it looks like the girl in the center is taking a shower, the man in the red shirt behind here appears to be helping her, the woman in the white shirt is disgusted by the state of today's degenerate society, and the bald man is considering suicide reminiscing about the old days where he could plow into that
Ah yes, it is all so clear now desu, thanks for the explanation.
no, yes, no, and yes...
Nope, my gf wasn't a virgin while I was.
It's called "Wet T-Shirt Contest"
Aren't those usually in divey bars and watched by beer-swilling morons? This is in broad daylight with a strange demographic. Also, they don't actually take their clothes off for it, let alone their bottoms.
As far as my research goes it was the "wet T-shirt contest ponderosa 2015"
It's a wet shirt contest and the fat woman is another competitor.
no. post more qts
>wet T-shirt contest ponderosa 2015
LOL, Wet-shirt competition.
That vid is just girls stripping naked.
(I'm not complaining. Just LOL @ the title of the event.)
I'd rather have a new car than a used one.
I'd have a used lamborghini over a mini cooper anyday
It's not, as a non virgin. I actually would kind of prefer a non virgin as well, if she was my age (27) it would definitely be weird. I've never taken a virginity and I don't know if it would be that good. If I fell in love with a girl and we were meant to be it'd be ok if she was a virgin. Actually I probably would fuck a virgin if I was attracted to them and they did all the work, unless I was concerned about getting stalked.
I can understand the wanting to share a pure first experience with someone side to some extent. After I lost mine at 24, reflecting later it seemed like the desire for someone else with inexperience was born of feeling anxious about how I would perform. But when it came to it, the girl who popped my cherry was much more experienced. I think when the chance comes up where you suddenly collide the opportunity you won't care. I know I didn't.
Every fragment of the universe is writhing, fucking, feeding, dissolving, being shat out and recombobulated. We're standing on a pile of bones millennia high, the skulls of the five other species considered human that we the homo sapiens wiped out. Your body knows how to fuck. Don't worry about it, anyway millennial are having significantly less sex overall than the previous 3 generations cos we're all so stressed out and hung up.
It is important to me for her to be volcel. Virginity is an obvious consequence of that.
I would like a woman that have a temper similar to mine. And I cannot fuck everything that moves, fall way too hard for women or I don't hit on them.
Sex with someone I'd break up with would put tremendous pressure on me for the next couple of years would turn my life into a nightmare.
Sex creates a strong attachment to a person, that's biology. I need a stone solid connection or it is just not worth it, a stupid play with two mediocre actors.
And you know what? I work for that. Make money, do sport and improve my skills in hobbies, perhaps it will work out one day.
Or not, be it then
>millennial are having significantly less sex overall
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I'm a Christian so yeah, pretty important. Of course there are converts, and a lot of (((Christian))) girls have had great (((relationships))) which just didn't work out but they (((loved))) them so it's okay to violate natural law and it's all behind them now and etc...
General rule, yes. Have some fucking self-respect.
Why are you using ((())) with those words? The context makes no sense to me.
i wish virginity was important but the whole idea of sex being unknown and waiting till marriage was just destroyed by the porn industry, making women want to copy what pornstars do, along with men, and fuck everything with two legs
the fact that there are people who whine and complain all day on the internet about not getting laid in the easiest time ever, is extremely fucking sad
>inb4 chad
Implies Jewish mind-rape of some kind. Cultural Christianity, the 'relationship' meme (pretty much means informal contract to share unnatural use of sexual organs) and retarded conceptions of love are all modernist insanity which have destroyed marriage prospects and families all over the world for generations now. Fixing this shit will take a lot of time and we're caught in the middle.
Speak english user wtf. Does writing like that turn u on or something?
What annoys me is anons thinking sex is all that matters. I know some robots want love which is what we actually need to strive for not sex
>Does writing like that turn u on or something?
At this point maybe a little bit. Point is almost everything you could rely on as the foundation for a stable marriage is dead for the moment. Fantastic thing about Christianity is that it never stays dead, but we're experiencing a lull right now.
Almost nobody thinks that sex in a vacuum matters. Where it's comfort, intimacy, emotional/social fulfillment or whatever there's more to sex than enhanced masturbation in most cases. Most robots and people in general I think are lonely bastards who just would prefer not to sleep alone.
Spiritual Chads like me on the other hand recognise that we're never alone because God is real and that the highest good in life is to ponder this truth. Next to this all is worthless, even your stupid normalfaggot conception of 'love'.
Not virginity but sleeping around too much is definitely a turn off. It's really a sign of low virtue, and love of virtue is the only kind of love that's worth anything.
>God is real
where are the proofs m'dude?
Which virtues? Which set of coherent virtues justifies *a bit* of sex but not whatever constitutes 'sleeping around *too much*' according to you?
Cosmological arguments, ontological one, moral argument, final cause, necessary highest good, etc. Summa Theologia has a good compilation of proofs. Frederick Copleston and Edward Feser are solid modern sources on the topic.
I'm a brainlet so I'm not gonna read all that shit, just sum up in retard-proof words the evidence or logical reasoning for god's existence
No, virginity isn't the most important thing about someone. You could have a chick who is a virgin and then you find out she is fucking crazy, and that's why no one fucked her.
It only becomes an issues when she has a lot of sexual partners. That said virgins seem more pure and that's kind of hot , the thought of teaching them how to do things. So it makes them seem more appealing.
love as a non robot is fucking so much comfier than having some random roastie suck your dick for 30 minutes.
having someone that you know loves you as much as you love them is the best experience in the world.
>B-but my dick need to get wet!!
i really dont get modern robots
God's existence isn't self-evident (we can't know directly), but we can reasonably infer that he exists from what must be his effects.
First argument is that God is necessary to avoid an infinite regression because all things are in a constant state of motion (change) being influenced by other things in motion, this chain of events must necessarily begin with something which is capable of moving, but incapable of being moved. God is the first step in causation.
I am keeping my virginity for a special someone.
If not, than I can live without sex.
I find sex a bit disgusting to be honest.
However, if I am ever married and she is into
that kind of stuff, eh, sure go for it.
>a christian
Based Christian user.
Not gunna lie I have been having the same thoughts the past couple years. Few can manage being decent human beings without religion, Christianity in the west, but would not be a bad thing to return to as a society. I dont need it but certainly most people I know do.
Love of God is the truest love. Most likely nobody is more satisfied in the world right now than the monks on Mt Athos.
Yes. Women with the least partners make the best partners, statistically. If I'm going to marry a woman which is pretty much financial suicide for a man, I at least want to maximize the chance that it will be successful. Sluts can deny it all they want but virgin women are have by far the highest chance of churning out a successful relationship.
Isnt phone posting a bitch?
i want to officially thank you for this react image, i needed it.
A normie classmate in hs ones told about a girl that stayed virgin until 18 (not bad already huh?) and the night after she lost virginity to her boyfriend, she went clubbing and fucked FOUR or even five guys all at one night. Next fucking day.
Then she became a quite unique whore with almost DAILY casual sex (yep-yep new man nearly every day).
She was an incel. A volcel is what needed, not just a virgin
There's no such thing as a female incel.
reverse image search it you fucking nigger
The virtues I'm talking about is of someone who values themselves and knows that meaningless sex won't make them happy. Not sleeping around too much means only has sex with people they're in a relationship with.
No one who has sex with everyone they see are well adjusted or ethical
>Few can manage being decent human beings without religion
I don't think you get it, according to Christianity we're all made to be Christians. Being anything but a Christian is wrong. By definition you aren't decent unless you are one. A pencil is a good pencil if it writes well (what it was made for), a man is a good man if he loves god (what he was made for). It's not a social program, it's a religion. We all need it, it isn't 'not bad', it's good. More than that, it's 'the good'. It's the only good. It's the answer to all of the listlessness and decadence of the west as well as the mental drain-circling oblivion of Eastern thought. It's the answer to human existence. Saying anything less is getting it fundamentally wrong.
Thanks user.
Also, your image looks sadly a lot like me.
Without the cigar tho.
I have bad asthma.
>whale feminists
There is user, just please do not look any
of them up, your penis will retract into your body
and not come out until you see the princess
of Prussia in an Attila uniform.
>values themselves
Even whores value themselves, just cheaply. It's all relative by most peoples' standards.
>meaningless sex
as I wrote before most people want more than just the sex, people get lonely and want intimacy, a sense of accomplishment, all the rest of that normalfaggotry.
>won't make them happy
and you know what will?
>not sleeping around too much
>too much
cuck
>relationship
What is a 'relationship' and why does it justify anything? For most sane periods of human history 6 sexual partners before marriage would be considered scandalous, calling the partnership some magic name doesn't change the fact that the spouse will be number *7* or that this person has a coloured history of failed relationships and likely a precedent for giving up when things don't suit them after getting as close as human beings can get. No good at all by my standards. Not remotely well adjusted or ethical.
How holistic is your system of ethics? How robust? Have you thought through everything?
Yes to all.
I can't say I expect to be with a virgin, however if a girl had sexual experiences outside of a relationship then I can't consider her an option in dating.
Of course there are.
The difference is that fem can get over it in no time as soon as she starts craving cock and males are doomed to become wizard
Plenty of guys will still fuck them. You can go to walmart right now and see borderline deformed creatures, but I'll tell you one thing, those creatures have or have had someone fuck them.
Women don't play the same game as men.
>relationship
This magic word again. What if she had 35 'relationships'? Would that be a problem? What about 350? If so, explain why?
>The difference is that fem can get over it in no time as soon as she starts craving cock
That's not an incel then, you contradicted yourself. If its up to the person if they get laid or not, they're not a fucking incel. That's why its called INVOLUNTARY celibacy.
virginity is a sign of mental illness and a high n count is a sign of unreliability
moderation is best
a girl's n count is always 2-3x more than what she tells you, judge accordingly
Obviously. If she had more than a few partners then the concept of commitment loses its meaning.
But even one hookup and I'm not interested.
They still fall into the category.
I personally know (sadly) some morbidly
fat feminazi who has a bf.
But that won't last... like her previous ones.
If she's broken off even one commitment after sex do you not see that there's an absolute chasm between that and never having done so? The gap between once or twice and three times, etc is nothing next to that first one.
Nope, "no-time" is something about a month. In that period if time they are incel.
And in order for something to happen to a human willfully, one have to build it up in her/himself. Add that time too.
You are the dumbest poster I have ever seen. Waiting till marriage never existed in the old days. People fucked around much more. All old societies were far more degenerate. Waiting until marriage is a new invention.
And who made up these rules of being good? Who's to say that christfags aren't actually evil? I dont know about you, but I couldn't give less of a shit about what some sandnigger made up thousands of years ago.
Wtf, What's the context of this picture robot friendo ?
Oh really? Oh fucking really?
Im not that poster but you talk to but I love history
And u wrong
no one's going to listen to that when 90% of people understand everything before the 18th century through Disney movies instead of "nihil sub sole novum"
There's no such thing as incel period.
This. These newfag normies think incel means unattractive or some stupid shit. Incel means you are literally incapable of getting laid outside rape/prostitution. Very few women fall under that category, in fact I would say no woman falls onto that category. Even literal retarded women get men.
it is actually not that new for women.
Men? yea, had sex in the old times...
If women had sex before their husband?
Than she was in trouble.
Why? because it was easier to find out
if a woman had sex, the skin you know...
The ancient Germans used to drown prostitutes in bogs. Having sex before the age of 20 was considered a disgrace. All sodomites were executed. In Republican Rome a senator once lost his post for embracing his wife in the presence of his daughter, potentially serving as a bad influence on her. Reliable contraception didn't exist, nobody wanted to raise bastard-spawn, people took this stuff seriously.
NOBODY is involuntarily celibate you liar. Everyone can get laid if they want to.
Do not waste your time on that white knight.
He can't have sex so he wants to fuck your brain.
>NOBODY is involuntarily celibate you liar.
Hahahahaha.
Liar. Incel means coming up with excuses for not trying, lying about why he does not want sex, and blaming everyone else for his failures.
women are sly by nature and it has never been easy to find out
why do you think there are so many dumbfucks having eureka moments about how women really are and have always been
>Your body knows how to fuck. Don't worry about it
I really hope so if I might get to have sex one day. The older I get (currently 28) the more worried I am about the experience a partner would expect from me.
>Your body knows how to fuck. Don't worry about it
delusionally not self-aware
all of your partners have faked orgasm and laughed about you with their girl friends behind your back
FUCKING THIS
>ORIGINAL COMMENT
>MORE THAN THE ONE THAT LOOKED LIKE MINE
The concept is completely foreign to normies. They think everyone is like them. They think just because 6'2" Chad is slaying puss every night, that means you can too. Its a joke.
>who made up these rules of being good
Most of it just fits into natural law theory. The teachings of Jesus should also make intuitive sense as universal truths.
>Who's to say that christfags aren't actually evil?
You can try saying that but your arguments will probably suck hard.
>I dont know about you, but I couldn't give less of a shit about what some sandnigger made up thousands of years ago
Even the likely made up parts of the bible (philosophical sections like Job) are the foundations of our culture and thought. Or at least were. Can age or location make the truth irrelevant?
How many rejections do I need before it counts as trying?
You can't tell if a woman is a virgin or not.
Why should you tho?
You will eventually, just not immediately.
Well, if their skin is penetrated, you can...
That is how they do it today in african tribes.
Also they massacre their vaginas, not to enjoy sex.
That's why creatures as incubuses existed in ancient times, because everyone know women did not have sex outside marriage, and if she got pregnant, it must have been an unnatural monster raping her.
Yeah yeah yeah, religion is for the normie masses. Save your mumbo jumbo for them Christmas user
No. I wouldn't expect somebody to completely understand what they want without experiencing a bit of life first. There are also circumstances outside of anybody's means of control.
If one person must move far away and it doesn't make sense for the other to come along, or they have some obligations where they are.
I think people can have good reasons for ending relationships.
And that 5'6" Chad is slaying pussy while that 6'2" incel virgin is raging in his basement. Know the difference? Chad actually goes out and talks to girls. The incel never does.
I hope you did not take anatomy in college, because in that case you need to ask for your money back.
>skin is penetrated
What did he mean by this?
I don't think many people sincerely believed in incubi.
Maybe where you live, here maybe 1% of people under the age of 50 practice.
>experiencing a bit of life
hahahaha
>circumstances, obligations, etc
Why make such a dire commitment as carnal union if you aren't willing to give everything to someone? There are friends and spouses and nothing in between in the eyes of God. We can recognise our friends have better things to be doing and may need to leave, but not our spouses. If someone's not your spouse why are you playing with their reproductive system? It's not a toy.
>Know the difference?
Money, looks, fame, etc.
original person you replied to and HOLY SHIT are you a brainlet.
the invention of easy hookup sites like tinder are much more prevalent than a local whore that was thrown around back in the day.
AND YES PEOPLE DID WAIT TILL MARRIAGE
to say otherwise proves youre some edgy teen poster
Everything I know about history I learned from Disney movies and memes of bitter virgin manchildren: the post.
The average number of sexual partners has actually DECREASED after tinder. But you are not smart enough to understand such things.
>bitter virgin manchildren
This term is like a mantra at this point
It doesn't mean anything anymore and normalfags just use it as an answer to everything
t. manchild who's also a virgin and kind of bitter about it
Exactly. Chad fucks hundreds of women while most men are virgins. 80-20.
Preach user preach! Show us the light! Please come to this board more often. This board needs god
>most men are virgins
Even for Jow Forums that is a fucking retarded post
I genuinely feel disgusted at the thought of the the body of the woman I love, cherish and hold In my arms having been used by previous men who couldn't even man up and stay with that woman. Its fucking disgusting.
Unfortunately I also seem to need this board. I like knowing other miserable people exist. It's a shame monasteries aren't common anymore. They'd solve so many problems.