Raloxifene and gyno

Does it works? Can raloxifene help with my gyno?
I'm not on roids but I'd prefer to stay away from a surgery
Is ralo the only option left?

(Not me on the pic but it's pretty close)

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It might reduce it after a long term dose, the only way to know is by trying

I'm just scared of the side effects (if any)
Do you think that an endocrinologist exam would help?
I'm probably gonna start dosing it as soon as I can find some and see if there are results in 4/6 months
Otherwise surgery is the only option

Stupid doctor told me it was "just fat" but now that I'm pretty skinny (6' and 30" waist) I'd say that this may not be the case since my chest looks the same as before I started training

>be an unrepentant fatass for most of my life
>finally think enough is enough and get on a diet
>never took the gyno thing seriously
>palpate my chest and feel a fibrous mass above/around both nipples
>lose will to anything

please guys give me an accurate description of gyno

If there is a hard lump then it is undoubtedly gyno. An endocrinologist wouldn’t help, he’d direct you to a surgeon. This is a question better directed towards a community that focuses on steroids because most people here don’t even lift. I would still recommend getting a blood test beforehand if you’re going to take something long term.

If you're fat, you most likely don't have gyno. You're just fat.

Only way you can be sure if gyno or not is by getting to 12% bf. Lose bodyfat first then cry about gyno.

I just know that some mentally deranged fags take ralox in combination with estrogen to not grow boobs so I'd guess it can work. I think you can order it online.

Either way you should talk to an endo, it might just be complete bullshit.

Ever heard of the effects of red grapes (GSE) on gynecomastia?
look it up, it looks promising.
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>Can raloxifene help with my gyno?
no

>Is ralo the only option left?
no, your ONLY option is surgery

If you were on roids and got gyno, you can reverse it with drugs because your glands are inflamed from other substances. In your situation it's pubertal gyno so no amount of drugs will reverse it.

literally just eat raw onion lol

Any more natural solutions to this?

At least you're not this guy.

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He's fat tho, I'm not, which may be worse
You can see my Adonis belt and a bit of abs yet my pecs are C shaped

Yes raloxifen helps with gyno you can also try tamoxifen (nolvadex) both help but I believe ralox is a bit stronger

Forgot this

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I was down to around 15% and I didn't notice any change in my moobs, even though i lost close to 10 kg.

I also feel a lump.

I should just get surgery?

I did check my hormone levels a few years related to another health issue, and I had no hormonal imbalance.

I thought I could train away and diet away this shit, but it's stil lhere after all these years.

Thank you really much user
Any help is appreciated
Will report back in 3 to 6 months or so

can you describe or compare what that lump feels like?

I mean, if I squeeze fat on any other place, there's no resistance, it's just fat. But when I squeeze my nips it feels like ball, like a marble.¨

size like pic related

it's not completely round, it extends out farther on one side, towards the armpit, and it's sensitive in that area

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So theres really no way you can't tell then if its that easy, I mean I feel nothing but mush on my chest and nothing hard like a marble so no way I have gyno despite me sometimes thinking I do right?

I mean my nips sometimes get pussy and stick outwards and sometimes theyre small and hard so not sure wtf is going on.

i responded to the guy (not sure if it's you) that said you have to get dow nto 12% bf

whats the point when i literally feel something hard behind my nips. what would lower bf% do?`it's a giant ass one as well

i'll be looking into surgery this fall, hopefully the process is quick

The process is quick enough that for next summer you'll be better than ever

Nigger, it's fibrous tissue now, the only way to remove it is with a scalpel. Drugs only help when it's not fully formed. If you got gyno, like most, during puberty, it's too late for that.

i tried it once OP, didn't really do anything, but all said and done i was at 20+% bodyfat at the end of it all. i also only took one pill a day, according to anyone that has treated themselves for gyno with this, they reccomend at least 2 a day for several months to see any noticeable improvement.

slowly but surely over the past few years i've been working on recompositioning myself to be at least 165 at 15% bodyfat. Almost there now and just being at a lower bodyfat has done wonders for my stage 1 gyno. once i hit that goal I'll be trying ralox again and blasting the fuck out of it.