/fat/ - return of the frogposter edition

if my clothes were any smaller i'd be indecent.
if i ever had any self respect i wouldn't have reached 300lbs let alone 400.
i've made it this far without a shred of self respect. if i could figure out how, maybe i could harness whatever it is and keep going, but i just can't wrap my head around it.
what was it that made me hate myself if not self respect, and how do i get back in touch with it. these are the questions i have to answer for myself, i think.

also i have a gainer fetish so i have to be careful not to shame myself too blatantly or else it will have an unfortunate inverse effect and turn me on. there has been a certain art of subtlety to sustaining my self hatred without becoming sexually motivated to wallow in it

that's a good luigi

Shouldn't that be solid down a notch for the shirt size?

I wear 32 around my belly button and an xt at 230 lbs

Hi guys, I'm 1 week in again.
I've managed to lose 2 kg by just reducing food intake, I'll make my own workout schedule tomorrow and start on Monday with exercises.

Stats:

6'1" 20 yo

Week 0: 109 KG - 240 lbs // waist 114 cm // Neck 43.5 cm // Quads 68 cm // biceps 39 cm // BF (estimation using bizcals) 31%

Week 1: 107 KG - 235.8 lbs // waist 110 cm // Neck 43 cm // Quads 67.5 cm // Biceps 39 cm // BF (estimation using bizcals) 28%

This week I reduced my calorie intake to around 1800. According to losertown I should have lost 1 kg, but I managed to lose 2kg, I think it's because I lowered my sodium consumption and started drinking more water again.

We will all make it Bros. I hope I catch the threat next Saturday and I'll give you guys next week's progress.

What? XT? I'm confused what you're saying.

Yeah it is

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Do you post pictures of yourself on here? Im gonna start doing it every friday if you want to join me, user. It may help keep you accountable.

>chubby girl who is kind of cute at work started asking me for weight loss tips the other day
>says shes noticed how much i've lost and that i look good
>tfw she has a bf

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You need to change your cancerous personality too, dumbass
start being friendly and kind to people, instead of standoffish and petty

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150 kilos, 1.98 meters, want to get down to at least 100.
So I just finished day 2 of my calorie counting, keeping the suggested by myfitnesspal to lose 1kg per week down by about 700kcal plus exercising. I finish the day with around 1.2k kcal to spare.
This shit is saying I will lose 2kg per week.
Is this for real? seems way too much and too sudden.

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It is recommended you don't take your calories spent in account. Do this, and yes, you will lose some pounds per week.

Not fat, but probably the best place to post.

I used to use the Navy algorithm, it was the most common.
But the Army and the YMCA numbers are perturbing my serenity.

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chronometer said I should be eating 1185 calories per day
is this healthy?

Are you a midget?
What are you tying to do? Lose weight? How fast?
What's your BF%, high, weight?
Have you considered fasting?

If you are an average fatty, with the average >25% body fat, you will feel miserable on 1200kcal. FAST instead.

lose 2lbs per week according to the app
BF% is probably somewhere between 25% and 30%
I'm 5'10 and 180 lbs
I'm kind of skeptical of fasting, would it allow me to still work out?

What workout are you doing? If it's cardio, which means, if you are training your oxidative metabolism, hell yes. It's the best possible thing to consume fat.
If you are doing weightlifting for strength (FOR STRENGTH, not to lose weight), no. You need carbohydrates.

Fasting, by Dr. Fucking Fung
youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk

I lost 15Kg in 6 months 2 years ago. I went from 91kg to 76Kg. From 19% to 11% BF.

Now i'm at 86, but still on 11% BF.

If i had known the fasting meme before, i would have fasted instead of eating 600kcal deficit every day.

Now i fast 3 times a week, for 36Hours. The other 4 days i do cardio and weight training.

>15Kg in 6 months 2 years ago.
>24kg by -1000kcal CICO in 6 months

literally what

take carb blockers

I just recently started a 6 day PPL for weightloss and strength after doing a 3 day full body routine for a little while, I like getting out of the house everyday
I was doing cardio with the 3 day and am now trying to figure out how to fit it into the 6 day
so no fasting? should I try a 4-5 day PPL instead of the 6 to allow for fasting?

I have no idea what you are tying to say or point out.

Depressedmom here, I'm back
Just reached a normal bmi. Feeling happy about it but i want to keep on losing weight since I'm just at the threshold for normal and I want to get to a more comfortable range. Yesterday I ate some 300 calories more than usual (still below 2000 and moderate activity).
Trying to get as much sun and air as I can to deal with my depression, it helps with my mood. Not I the mood to work or really, so I try to take walks outside, and use the stairs often.
No real cravings, I can control my food intake pretty easily, as food has become a bit less interesting to me.
You're going to make it, /fat/mily, I believe in you guys

If you want my miserable opinion, i would fast. Get shredded and start from there.

Summer is over, so you have 1 year to get in good shape, and you POSITIVELY can do that.

But if you are fat, it will be very difficult go gain muscle and lose fat. It's not something that easy, unless you know your body and you know how to do that, which you probably won't.

If i were you, i would do 1 month cardio and fast (say 6 days fast, 1 day eating). you can lose 10 Kg in 1 month. It's not a joke or an exaggeration. Get down to 11% body fat (USE A METER and the Navy Algorithm to determine your BF% healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator )
At the end you will have a great cardiovascular conditioning at the end of it.
You can even lose fat with weightlifting, just doing low weight, high reps BUT in this case it is VERY, very, very very hard to count your calories and determine if you have really worked out. If you are really out of shape, ANYTHING will give you strength at the beginning, even cardio.

1) weight yourself every morning, after peeing, before drinking. Sigh down your weight and progress.
2) what to drink when fasting (this is SUPER IMPORTANT if you do cardio and drink a lot)
youtube.com/watch?v=1onQ0nxgWFM
3) how to fast, ignore the profanity:
youtube.com/watch?v=--eAzQC3RRE
you are interested in the "refeeding" tips and the feeding frequencies suggestions.

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good job depressedmom, hope you feel better soon

Today i hit an amazing milestone, i'm LITERALLY half the man i used to be.
I was 158kg, today i weighed in at 79kg.

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you are literally saying it's faster to lose weight on CICO than fasting

>Lost three pounds in a few weeks
I feel I can do better though. As an aside, how bad is pasta? I had one cup cooked with a pork chop for lunch and getting the right calorie counts for them has me paranoid, especially since it's too cold and humid for me to work out, my knee's been hurting and other assorted excuses.

Anyone here take BCAA?

Nice. Do you feel different just walking around?

Thank you dear user. I will start therapy when the summer is over

When had i said that?
I said i lost 15 Kg in six month on a -600 daily deficit. Which is 108000Kcal deficit in 6 months, which is practically 15Kg of fat.

I said nothing about:
>24kg by -1000kcal CICO in 6 months

That's amazing, good job! How do you feel? Any insight? What did you do, when did you begin?

Life has been way better for a long time, even after "only" losing 20kg. I feel like a completly different person now.

Is it safe to do squats when you're 250kg? Now what about with a 25lb kettlebell?

How is this different from the many other diets of the past claiming fast weight loss? What's stopping me from instantly gaining that 10kg back after the month, as is common with diets like this? Has this been analyzed in a peer reviewed study?

And if I do go through with it, will I be able to actually function while fasting?

Food scale and calorie counting works. Just don't be lazy and weigh/log everything. Cooking your own meals in batches is cheap and tastes way better than any fast food.

When i started i was really depressed, one of the reasons i got so fat in the first place. When i felt better for a bit i used that momentum to change my diet and i just never stopped.

I wouldn't risk ut, you could injure yourself pretty badly, lose weight first.

Got it. I don't suppose there's anything else I can do with the kettlebell while I wait?

Alright. I was confused about that sorry

It's not a diet. It's not eating. You don't eat. That's it.

>Fasting, by Dr. Fucking Fung
>youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk
is a great introduction to the subject.

Here is another:
>youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0

Just take inspiration from these videos and search of scientific publications about what is said in there.

Fasting General is FULL of people who are fasting.
I fast 3 times a week for more than 36 hours, and i'm at less than 12% body fat. I do 10Km trekking during every single one of those days. I can't do prolonged fasts because i have no fat to sustain my body with. But YES, it's is perfectly sustainable if you are fat; it's the reason you are fat, to sustain fasting periods. I've been fasting for months now, and i will never give up the feeling your body gives you when you are totally depleted of glycogen and there is no insulin in your body; it's a complete different hormonal and emotional state, which most people of today's world will never experience.

Listen, just go in fasting general, and take a look.

Fuuug. Went to a party earlier and ate food there, a nd Im three pounds heavier than I was yeaterday.
I know thats nothing, I could piss Nd shit it out by tomorrow morning, but it still sucks.

I'll look into it, thanks

Everybody here has an opinion. In my opinion, go for low carb CICO. You will function, you will feel good, you will be able to go and eat out like a normal person. Fasting will make you lose weight at double the speed, but that also puts you in danger of loose skin. Plus, you won't develop healthy eating habits.
Go for 1000kcal defict, only carbs allowed are veggies, eat meat and eggs, avoid dairy. You'll lose 1k per week. I find it sustainable and safe.

Should I prioritize bodyweight squats or jogging for lower body strength? When I do one I tend to become so immobilized the day after, so I can't just alternate by the day.

Is a 1600 calorie deficit healthy for sedentary fucks?

Probably just focus on your arms. There are some low impact kettlebell exercises you can try, depending on how much stress you'd be willing to take on your knees and ankles

Probably will end up ingesting too little calories, which will make you ravenous. 1000k is more sustainable.

this is literally cheating at dieting

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Ah, I see. I'm doing it right now and I am ravenous, but I thought it was me being a bitch.
What's the difference between 1600 calories and 1000kcal or Calories or whatever they call it these days? I'm too low IQ to wrap my head around it and I worry if I try to overextend into kcals I'll just fuck up.
I've tried out some exercises focusing on my lower back and shoulders and they're fine. I don't suppose you can recommend any arm exercises?

176cm manlet (5'9")
70kgs (154lbs)

I was 86kgs last year and lost 17kgs quickly.
after that, I've been 70-72kgs for a good part of year now. Dunno how to lost the last 10kgs (22lbs)

No motivation at all.
I eat 800cals a day. Used to eat 500 or fast for a day last year. Now i can't do shit.
Dunno how to motivate myself.
I can do it for a week, and then go back to the old ways.
I guess i should be eating 1200cals and include workout.
help me lads.

calories is just an informal name for kcalories. It's the same. Just adjust your daily ingest to a 1000 deficit instead of 1600. You will feel better. Also ditch all carbs except vegs (no potatoes) and you will stop feeling hungry.

1 Calorie = 1 kcal = 1000 calories

When laymen say calories, they mean Calories/kcal

Don't fast unless you want unsustainable and unhealthy eating habits

Will I ever plateau on a 1200 kcal diet as a man?

Hey fellow /fat/ poster I started at your weight around 11 months ago and i'm currently at 88kg.

There will be days where you cave in and eat 4000+ calories or miss a few workouts. Make sure you don't beat yourself up over these mistakes as it will make everything way worse.

Also try sticking to sustainable deficits or else your weight will yo-yo, trust me I have been there.

I wish you all the best in your transformation from /fat/ to Jow Forums,

God bless user.

Isn't 70kgs a healthy weight for us manlets?

nah, still look like shit with fat everywhere.
it sure hits the "normal" bmi, but not healthy.

>Work hard, lose 20lbs
>Gf does nothing, gains 30
>She now hates me

What the fuck is wrong with women?

Good lord man 551 pounds? You shouldnt be doing anything but CICO and light light LIGHT cardio

>Turbolard since I was 13
>hit 25 last year
>tell myself to sort my shit properly holy fuck you're in your late twenties and still fat despite always hating it
>actually get off my fat ass
>Starting weight in early 2017, 285lbs (42 BMI)
>as of this weekend, 170lbs (25 BMI)
I actually fucking did it. I can't believe I actually genuinely fucking did it.

Now I need to keep going.

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Wait shit, I'm 250 lbs.
And apparently 40 IQ.

Same. I enjoy hanging out with my friends, but there is always food or alcohol involved

Oh
yeah you can squat at that weight, I did it at 248 and it was fine

Any loose skin?

I'm pretty sure he's circumsized.

Yes, but relatively minor so far. When stood up, my stomach skin creases like in this pic, and you can tell what stomach fat I have is very loosely packed and the the remaining belly I have hangs low because of it.

I still have stomach fat to lose though so I think it will probably get worse.

So meat and fibrous veg up to a thousand calories/kcal/Calories?

jesus christ how can that only be so few calories? I feel like im going to explode and like it was one of my 5000+ calories binges and it was 1000 calories barely, how the fuck does this even work

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fruit is mostly water

So are people.

> 4 hours until next meal

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>221g of sugar

good luck with your insulin gains

>28 protein
goodbye muscle

Had my worst ever month since starting diet this year. Still lost 5lbs and recomped a bit.

Lots of BBQs does mean lots of protein

what is wrong with sugar? don't I need it for muscle after gym?
I got chicken breast
but it feels like so much food, 2 protein bars have the same amount of calories as 2kg of peaches? it just makes no sense and I feel like im fucking up my cut despite eating as much as I have to

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I'm nearing my 22 BMI goal bros, in a few weeks I'll be pigging out on unli pizza.

>what is wrong with sugar? don't I need it for muscle after gym?

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Glycogen replenishment after working out for almost 2 hours can't be bad for me can it? I train fasted and just eat all the food for the day in the hour after I come from the gym

Should I work out even though it's kind of cold and humid?

no, it's better to stay comfy at home, eat some junk food and enjoy your videogames user, why would you bother working out on such a horrible day and weather

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Thanks Monika.

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>what's wrong with sugar
many things, for example it leads to diabetes and osteoarthritis really fast

>being this misinformed

For you fools in this thread considering or actively eating keto, please read the following:

>confirms a positive association between high consumption of red meat and incident type 2 diabetes in a large cohort of European adults.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22983636

>Western diets rich in saturated fats cause obesity and insulin resistance, and increase levels of circulating NEFAs [non-esterified ('free') fatty acids]. In addition, they contribute to beta-cell failure in genetically predisposed individuals.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955

>If saturated fatty acids as a percentage of total energy were to decrease from 14% to 8%, there would be an 18% decrease in fasting insulin and a 25% decrease in postprandial insulin.
academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/58/2/129/4715905?redirectedFrom=PDF

>intromycellar lipids are strongly associated with insulin sensitivity
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2995502/pdf/nihms-251043.pdf

Fasting induces autophagy which prevents lose skin like most diets end up in.

And of course, the most important and relevant study:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989112/pdf/nihms-247461.pdf

Low carb diets are associated with an increase in all-cause mortality.

Please reconsider your diet upon reaching a healthy BMI.

>use verywellfit nutrition analyser to calculate the amount of protein in a recipe per serving
>calculate each individual ingredient by myself and find the amount of protein per serving is less than half of that of the analyser

what is happening here?

So if I move dinner (some greek yogurt) over to lunch time and skip lunch I can drink a 12 pack of Victoria and still be within my daily goal to lose 1kg per week.
I usually stay well bellow it, and drinking the 12 pack would bring me short by about 200 but it's doable.
Should I? I really miss drinking

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should i weight meat before or after cooking? the cheap top round cut steaks i've been eating lately shrink a fucking lot when cooked

2lbs is the recommended a week anymore depending on how fat you are caused marks. get a food scale if you care enough. pasta is fine just portion it out. its better to overestimate imo than under and if your knee hurts think about starting by biking or a stationary bike. gj on the 3 pounds

You the guy who ate 3kg of peaches and threw up a few threads ago? Nice to see you're still trying

In winter in my warehouse (where i have my powercage) i have -5°C. Just warm up and dress properly.