Could this BE any more wrong?

Yeah faggot.
Women will not actually go after a guy, you have to go after them.
Gay guys going after you, which is what they want, is what men do. They go after what they want to fuck. Gay guys are more hardcore because they are more thirsty then actual men.

Building that kind of body is to make thirsty women WHO ARE IN FRONT OF YOU into whores and to make other women far far far more receptive of your advances. Because you know. You have the build of someone who is strong and will take them if you want them.
Get it stupid?

Normie fag ran media has really fucked your head up hasn't it?

lol he mad

Women's sex drive is just much lower. If you wanna have fun you need to find a cute boy toy that shares your kinky interests, and only use women for reproduction.

I've never met anyone who was in incredible shape who was also a really funny and charming guy. I don't give a shit if your bro at the gym is totally hilarious to you, and I don't give a shit if you make thots laugh because they're already attracted to you. The fact is that it takes a certain kind of person to actually be in great shape, and normally these guys are competitive or insecure, or just enjoy it in a habitual autistic kind of way. Guys who are carefree, passionate, and charming don't go to the gym everyday counting macros and so on, they're out having dinner and drinks with their friends and girls they've been meeting. They might be in pretty good shape, especially if they're young and sporty, but they don't look specifically like they lift weights.

Guys here need to accept that they really lack charm for the most part, and that if they're getting attention from girls it's because they're attractive in other ways and also have a social life. None of you are actually charming people, and girls really like charming guys. I've known guys who were like 5'8, balding, and slightly chubby with average faces who slayed because they just had great social skills.

They would still friendzone the second guy and fucj the first tho dont take advice from roasties about how to get a roastie to suck your dick they dont know what they want the way a man knows what he wants the thought process is different

Why in gods name would you think i was mad?

Nah.
Dudes gross me out.
I'm all about women.
Reverse traps? The pre-op early transition and at best andro/twink ones? They'll get the dick whether they want it or not though.

I-if I p-promise never to improve can I be a smart guy like you?

www.sscnet.ucla.edu/.../Frederick_Haselton_2007_Muscularity_sexy.pdf

Why would a woman stick around long enough to find out if I'm charming if I'm unattractive and carry myself poorly?

Women say they want the funny guy then they fuck the muscled Chad on the side

>Dudes
But user we are not talking about dudes here, we are talking about cute twinks.

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user, I've quite honestly turned down twinks that were hyper feminine and had tits.
I could have had blowjobs on demand and I could have learned to like fucking an ass.
I could not go through with it.
It's a guy.
He has a dick he smells wrong he sounds wrong feels all wrong.
I just couldn't do it.
And there is a lot of money out there for a man that looks like me and has a dick my size and fucks like I do.
You guys...sorry "gals" literally don't have anything I want. Sorry.

I only know this because I definitely don't fit into the charming, social guy type. People like this feel no need to be in any shape beyond just being healthy, if even that. If they did suddenly find themselves in great shape, they may suddenly find they lose what makes them charming. It does happen that guys can lose their confidence when they get in shape, it does.

>Why would a woman stick around long enough to find out if I'm charming if I'm unattractive and carry myself poorly?
It's immediate, from the moment you introduce yourself. You can't be a slob, because charming and social people don't dress like slobs, but you can have a slight belly because you like good food and drinking.

Guys like this mostly just build social groups steadily and work their way through the attractive girls in them. Maybe they go out and hit on some random girls, but it's more of an extension of their general sociability.

Guys like us have to hunt, it's a different strategy. We don't build relationships and nurture our social groups, we get as physically attractive as possible and learn to be sexually aggressive enough to get a girl excited. Then we fuck until they become attached.

>I've never met anyone who was in incredible shape who was also a really funny and charming guy
Dude, have you ever seen Joe Rogan?

>You guys...sorry "gals" literally don't have anything I want

You got it wrong, i fuck them. Im not a faggot.

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Joe Rogan is the least funny person in the world, he just appeals to stupid people. He's not charming either, and there's plenty of videos that show how insecure and frankly psycho he can be - randomly putting people into chokeholds etc.

Don't get me wrong, I quite LIKE him, but being likable doesn't mean you're a charming person.

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based and redpilled

>beta bux are attractive
True! They 'get' women! Who despise them and have begrudging chore sex with them!

Meanwhile low bf% high T Chads take care of woman's need to feel feminine in total surrender to a man whose very metaphysical essence she affirms with her entire being and who in giving form to her matter raises her up into a celestial realm of pure unselfconscious joy and calls the Universe itself to creation in her womb of a new soul.

Six of one, half dozen of the other! Everyone wins!

So they want a ripped beta fucking Bullshit

This is only true for people that have been Jow Forums for their entire life. People you were either skinny or fat and funny carry their great humor into their new Jow Forums bodies. This happens b/c the unattractive people relied on humor their entire life to get people to like them. Now they brought their new aesthetics and old humor to become the ultimate right swipe on tinder

Impossible standards these women set.

Blackpill reminder:
Looks ARE personality. Any woman that claims to perfer personality over looks is lying.

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A funny homosexual who's on steroids and takes really good care of their body?
That's like...every other gay guy out there.

People who look like shit on the outside are generally shit on the inside. If you can't even take care of your body, skin, teeth, etc. how can you honestly say you're a good and functional human being?

Because they're fucking lame betas and just became better betas. Guys who are getting hot girls regularly without being in shape don't randomly decide to get buff, it doesn't even cross their mind. It's only guys who are the 'funny' ones, but aren't charming at all, who feel the need to get in shape. Girls like them because they hit the mark physically and can be entertaining without being threatening at all. And girls know these guys are dumb as shit, so they soothe their egos by talking about how hot they are and how girls must be all over them, and talk about how smooth they are. And the beta dumbass is like 'hurr durr i guess i am'.

This isn't me coping, just being real. I've been friends with these guys and it's true, they're just intelligent and charming, and enjoy having a good time, and they're not shy around girls or ashamed of whatever intentions they have. Girls LOVE guys like that, but there are very very few of them, and most girls have poor social skills anyway so already know they're below that guy's league and what he's looking for.

>Women's sex drive is just much lower
s i t u a t i o n a l

This

This doesn't show that looks are everything. It means that women have a minimum requirement for looks and unless that's met they're not interested.

Looks ARE huge, but being a ripped Chad looking guy doesn't mean you're always going to win, especially not with more intelligent girls. Looks matter because we're actually extremely good at judging character based on how a person looks, that's why they matter, but it isn't simply that physical attractiveness is the only thing that matters.

That's just buzzwords we're biologically wired to admire and trust good looking people theres nothing you can do about it biology always wins

>especially not with more intelligent girls.
It works with them better because intelligent girls are far more thirsty.

>buzzwords
What part of what I said was buzzwords?

>intelligent girls
You brainlets ok lets hypothetically say there are some smart females
Theyre likely to behave and act like a man and you wouldn't find them attractive you dont do it to drag the attention of smart females you want the dumb big tited staceys

>there are faggots on this board RIGHT NOW who haven't taken the /physiognomypill/

Bottom has
Nice hair
6 foot 3
Rich
Frame
Face
German jewish and connected financially

Yes. Women like that.

You must lead a sheltered life. I have met tonnes of people both fit and funny.

I think you don't find them funny because your personality is beta and you automatically dislike them because you can't handle it.

Yeah and they can get it from whoever they want, they're girls for fucks sake. When you can get basically any guy you want, you start to only really care about getting the one you actually want and who you enjoy being with. There's no sense that they need to get the best guy possible or they're missing out, the whole illusion of the dating game is shattered for them. The more intelligent they are, the more they value genuine intelligence and character, and the less they value social status, which is primarily what drives the hot but dumb girls to go for the Chad type. If they're gold-diggers, then they go for the rich ones, but if they aren't then they just go for personality with a minimum requirement for looks, and a proportional influence from looks after that.

attracting womens is looks, keeping them arround is personality, no woman will care about you if you don't have a physical trait that they find attractive, but then no female will stay if you don't have anything that goes according to their prefferences

>women are mindless animals that can't appreciate the sublime

>Le smart girl meme
They want Chad to wear glasses.

>When you can get basically any guy you want,

That's not how men work.
That's not how we work.
That's not how it works in reality.
They can't get it from whatever man they want.
The fuck planet are you on?
Why do you imbeciles continue to push this idiotic narrative?

Based and I mean that’s ideal but they’ll take what they can get

Exactly, I've only been with 7/10s and over, why the fuck would I go lower?

we're not good at judging character based on looks at all lol. It is mostly just a halo and failo effect. Good looking people are perceived to have better personalities, ugly people are assumed to have trash ones. There's obviously gonna be a bit of a feedback loop (at least for some people) so that ugly people have more bitter personalities and gl people have more upbeat ones. This is further amplified by the halo effect mentioned earlier.

Anyway, solution for ugly people imo is improve your looks as much as possible (but don't be obsessed or insecure about looks) and have a superhuman energetic personality (Tom Cruise style (he's good looking though but is a maniac in terms of how good his mindset and work ethic are))

This was made by either an ugly girl or a skinnyfat guy.

There are intelligent women, but they are intelligent in a different and not very important way. Their intelligence isn't about logic, as much as it is about having taste and being charming. I went on a couple of dates with a very intelligent girl who I swiped right on (not Tinder, Chinese version called tantan) and only messaged because I was drunk and going home at 7am. Then I got to know her a bit and she instantly became way more attractive and I spilled my spaghetti and she wasn't interested.

I've been around the world, hung out with people of all different types. I think you're projecting. I think you've never been exposed to genuinely intelligent people who have incredible charm. I never said I didn't find them funny, they can be funny, but it's bro humor. It's not CHARM.

Real talk.
Why would a man go below a 7/10 if he could and routinely got 7/10 and above?

also perfect teeth

>women want both

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Lower around you, of course.

Hey, that boring flaming homosexual twink was written to be funny on that TV show 20 years ago.
That means he's funny in reality and what all women say they want!

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Attractive and intelligent women can't get it from whatever man they want? Fuck are you talking about, yes they can, they literally have the highest value out of every girl in the world.

No they can not.
Secondly, intelligence has never been something that attracted a man when he wanted to fuck.

Oh you got 1600 on your SATs.
I'm going to split your cunt like a mile of fresh spring earth!

Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us?

How am I projecting, you are probably talking the most bullshit I've heard in my life.

You are literally saying: Be charming + lift weights = either charm disappears or impossible to get fit.

I know people off the top of my head who fit this category easily, there's a few guys in my gym.

>Tfw mystery initiated lifter

Yes they can, they're literally at the top. They're the girls who go to the best schools and are the best looking there - literally the top tier. Chad isn't going for them because Chad isn't even fucking exposed to them, they don't run in the same circles because Chad's social life is about clubbing and the gym, and banging thots.

>Secondly, intelligence has never been something that attracted a man when he wanted to fuck.
Sure, if you're genuinely braindead and the only thing that attracts you to a woman is her ass. This is 'muh dik' shit right here. It's not about grades, it's about being able to have a conversation so I know if I have kids with her they won't be idiots. You don't think we evolved to want to avoid that? Maybe in your case you haven't, maybe you really have no floor for intelligence in a woman.

>How am I projecting, you are probably talking the most bullshit I've heard in my life.
I'm talking about something you've never been exposed to, probably because you genuinely have limited experiences socially - and I don't mean in terms of quantity, I mean in terms of variation. So you've never met a person who was genuinely charming, so you assume I'm making things up, your limited social experience leads you to think that attraction works only the way you're suggesting.

>You are literally saying: Be charming + lift weights = either charm disappears or impossible to get fit.
I'm literally not saying that lmao.

How deluded do you have to be to believe this?
LMS is all that matters
(Chandler is a good character though)

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>no cute twnks though
Qt twinks only fuck other qt twinks or sugar daddies

>tfw so enlightened you realize you can't take normies to where you are and stop reeeeing at their nonsense
the gains only multiply from here on out

Gosh Chandler was so disgustingly bloated during that season.

You are saying that.

You don't know anything about my life experiences, which makes your argument pathetic. I've traveled round the world, and know people who are considered celebrities. I think it is you who can't see the wood through the trees.

>bloat
>disgusting
get out.

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>I've never met anyone who was in incredible shape who was also a really funny and charming guy.
This speaks more to you not going out much and more or less being a retard. Dont generalize this hard dude, Jesus its really autistic. The traits for the most part on not mutually exclusive. I really dont care enough to blog post anecdotal situations for you. Im sure in time you will come to understand what im saying.

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You're fucking crazy.

There are plenty of smart and if I'm correct about what you assume attractive is 5/10 LONELY AS FUCK SMART BITCHES in those top schools.

They are not the ones the guys are all going after nor or they on top of any mans list when it comes to who he's going to fuck or wife up.
Intelligence takes a back seat to looks and personality user.

She can be able to converse philosophy music science and even obscure gobbledygook. But it will not make a man's dick budge if she's not hot and or has a shit personality.

That's how it is.
You've been lied to your entire life.
Her intelligence is not hot.
Her future job prospects are not hot
Neither of the above two has anything to do with her ability to have rear or raise children. At all.
As a matter of fact, it means that they'll be less able when it comes to having and raising children then an average intelligent yet personable stress free and hot woman.

didn't come here for red pills today user...

>You are saying that.
No I'm not you fucking mong. I said anyone who's already charming doesn't feel any need to get buff, and anyone who is autistic enough to actually get buff and put the time in is never going to be that charming. I also said that there are people who kind of lose their charm because they become obsessed with the gym instead of enjoying life and become obsessed and reliant on how they look.

>You don't know anything about my life experiences
Actually, I know exactly where you're lacking it. You've never seen a real charming guy in action, you've only ever seen guys who seem charming because they have confidence because they're already very attractive. I know that, because if it weren't the case you'd actually understand what I'm talking about.

>and know people who are considered celebrities
Lmao, fucking cringe.

>man-breasts are bad
They'd be crucified today

>here are plenty of smart and if I'm correct about what you assume attractive is 5/10 LONELY AS FUCK SMART BITCHES in those top schools.
No, I'm talking about 8's, 9's, and 10's. They exist.

Almost all of the people I know who have good socail skills grew up playing sports, and a lot of them are still in shape. You are probably just biased against fit people because a jock bullied you in high school. So when you a meet a funny fit person it doesn't count because they are using "bro humor" not real charm. Name a charming celebrity so I can be enlightened on what REAL charm is.

>its autistic to devote 40 minutes of your day to exercising

>can't bypass the filter
Credibility lost.

alot of girls like homos

one of the funniest and quick witted guys i know was Jow Forums af and the star running back on our high school football team.

>You've never seen a real charming guy in action

Top kek. Bet you wear a fucking fedora

No that's impossible, it's just bro humour, you don't understand, you obviously lack life experience

Absolute based and redpilled

They want a guy with a big dick. They could care less if you're shredded. Start jelqing.

Protip: If women were actually only willing to fuck chads and guys with big dicks, we'd all be chads with big dicks. Do you retards ever talk to women without thinking about fucking them? They have fetishes and quirks and personalities.

Because we're all going to be old and ugly and gross some day. The goal is to find a lifetime partner who loves you for your unique human characteristics, ones that don't vanish past 50.

>Protip: If women were actually only willing to fuck chads and guys with big dicks, we'd all be chads with big dicks.
deep red evolutionpill here

I realised I will never be Alex,
why even live?

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Top 1% of guys.

Virtue signaling normie memes for social media brownie points and validation from orbiters
pic related is what women will ALWAYS want

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No, this is what women want?

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1 in a 100 then, so fuckin tonnes

gyno removal isn't that expensive, just do it

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You could not BE more wrong.

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>the autismo who made his fortune playing minecraft on youtube is this shredded

Holy fuck, I need to get it together.

stop coping and just accept you're homosexual