Brb, going carnivore

>shawn baker blocked me on instagram
;_;

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try saying so᠌y

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who told you you could copy paste mine baka

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my only issue is that he isn't posed in the same fashion as the before picture

>dumb anecdotes by fatties
Even the potato diet works, jesus christ I hate carnicels

>Fatty finally gets on a diet, cuts out all junk food, health gets better.
No surprises here.

Even the fucking *twinkie* diet works.

yeah, restrictive diets work wonders, even eating sugary shit all day gets stale and people usually start to get sick of the taste

fuggen marxist carbs

SLAY THE DRAGON TIAMAT, WHICH IS CARBS, AND SAVE THE PRINCESS, WHICH IS A CARNIVORE DIET

ITS HUGE, MAN

The so᠌yboy got you f@m.

SERIOUS LIGMA

except he looks like a fuckin beetroot now. srs tho fp to him. proud.

This is purely anecdotal, but over the last year I’ve approached carnivorism out of a desire to cut carbs and generally insubstantial foods. I’d say my diet is 80-90% meat depending on the week. The rest is cheese, nuts, cream, and some grains. No fruits or veggies.
Dropped about 35 pounds, gained a fair bit of muscle, and just had my first physical in about 2 years, where the doctor’s exact words were “disgustingly healthy”. Also did bloodwork and everything was in the optimal range.
Now, I did other things that contributed to this, so I’m not claiming a pure causal relationship. Just wanted to share.

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This
Less calories in diet = losing fat
Who knew

Good results.

>So I look at him
>I look at the vegan eh, and I say to him
>eat the meat or get beat, eh
>and he bloody laughs! I couldn't believe it! He laughs and he eats a carrot
>So anyway me and Rogan serve him his own ass raw before giving the rest of him to the pigs, or the weinsteins as you may call them

>the weinsteins

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Have they spoke about their brother yet?

Did somebody really say this IRL?

>eats more meat and cuts out all other food.
>his appetite goes down from meat diet
>gets all the nutrients he needs to live
>loses fat
>attributes his weight loss to carnivore diet
>basedbois get offended
>"DUHHHH EAT LESS CALORIES LOSE FAT, STOOOOPID"

For a long time people have had the mindset that wating meat alone isnt a practical and healthy lifestyle. And the point of this guy attributing his progress to his consumption of just meat, is that a carnivore diet is an entirely viable diet to live on.

>inb4, muh scientific studies!!!!!
Join the carnivore fb page and see the increasing number of people who have found tjis diet to be beneficial.

Basically, meat is filling and healthy.
Vegetables and fruit are not filling and kinda healthy.

that guy's sweat smells like fucking ammonia, though

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Reminder

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>its gonna be interesting when JP cant follow the diet any more due to malnutrition.

>hey these scientific studies are dumb, ignore them
>i have a facebook page with pictures of people who said they liked it

lol

>gets all the nutrients he needs to live
fuck vitamins and minerals, amirite?

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But animals eat vegetables and grass and fruit, therefore those nutrients are in their meat, right?

Is nobody going to talk about the fact that it looks like he just swallowed molten lava?

Not in their meat. At least not enough for our needs. Organ meat is much better but you will still be deficient in some things.

>high blood pressure
>high total cholesterol
>high LDL cholesterol
>high cholesterol ratio
>high blood glucose
>pre-diabetic
>testosterone of an 85 year old man (who also has low test)
>borderline vitamin D deficiency
His body is already fucking up on the diet, but he's stuck shilling it to make his (((money)))

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It's actually the caloric deficit diet, with a little help from the stop eating like shit diet.

except carbs will destroy your teeth. How can that be healthy? Plus, they make you hungry, they spike your slin and give you diabetes. The only carbs that have a place in human diet are those from fruit and legumes. Sugar is poison and bread and pasta and lack of sleep are pretty bad too.

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lol look how red his face his, this fucking guy going to keel over any day now.

OK have a nice death bro but don't say I didn't warn you. If you eat starches you are garanteed to get cavities and diabetes.

>a calorie is a calories
>sugars effect your body the same way as fats or protein
oh god, when will this 50 year old meme end?!

>vegetables ruin your teeth
>diabetes rates in east asia have skyrocketed as grain/cereal (rice) consumption has held steady and meat consumption has risen
What's it like to be retarded?

In a very basic thermodinamic sense it's true, the energy in energy out equation is always valid. But a person is not a calculator. Even if you track your calories, if you eat certain foods you will not feel full and get cravings. Basically you will either be in pain or fail to follow your diet. I guess it's ok for competitive sports, but in day to day life you can't live like that. you can lose 100kg but if you eat like shit you're going to look like shit and feel like shit and die sooner anyway.

no you are retarded. Asia has a diabetes problem. Everybody knows it's because they eat rice all the time. If diabetes rose it's because people can afford food now. There is no way for meat to cause diabetes. It just makes no sense. Insulin spikes when your blood sugar spikes. It's a very well understood and recognized mechanism and all doctors will tell you that's how diabetes happens. So you are worse than stupid, you don't even make sense.

>bread has existed for 15,000 years
>but now it destroys teeth and guarantees diabetes

Fucking fags. There's not magic trick just eat less calories than your TDEE you weak willed fucking pussies kill yourself die from obesity

ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!
You realize if you get pumped full of insulin with lets say an IV then all food you intake will be stored into fat and you will be literally unable to access your body fat for energy.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? You can eat 1000 calories and you would still store them as fat and be unable to access it, your body would shutdown your metabolism to shit to try to stay alive with "no energy".

Sure calories matter, but what matters more is your hormonal response to what you eat because that ultimately dictates what your body does with the energy.

STOP with this fucking meme of "you can ear donuts, but as long as you are in the calorie range then you will lose weight and not actually fuck your metabolism"

Good luck not dying of cancer at age 45.

Mother Nature is loving but vengeful. She poisons those who enslave and slaughter her children.
>But their own hand do they carve their own demise.
Go Vegan.

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>Asia has a diabetes problem. Everybody knows it's because they eat rice all the time.
Asians have literally been eating rice for over 10,000 years but now suddenly it causes diabetes?

The facts:
>diabetes rate in China was 2.6% in 2000
>diabetes rate in China was 9.7% in 2010
>rice consumption dropped 30%
>pork consumption rose 40%
>oils/added fats role 20%

Pic is the main idiot shilling this stupidity.

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>Mother Nature is loving but vengeful. She poisons those who enslave and slaughter her children.
>Plants aren't part of nature
Kek, how malnourished are you?

Plants give of their fruit willingly.
You can harvest from them and they continue to thrive happily.
This is not the case for our animal brothers.

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I knew an accountant in his 30s who was morbidly obese and had gout. The fat ass used to brag about how he never ate anything green, and it's was only meat and pasta or potatoes for him.

Honestly, I hope he's dead now.

But you can be an unhealthy fuck no matter what label you put on your diet.

>Plants give of their fruit willingly.
So just because plants can't scream at the horrors you force it to go through makes it okay?
You know that in order to examine whether something is humane, first tetermine if you would want it done to you.
So would you want to get chopped down, the fruits of your labor harvested for human consumption?
Apparently if your victim can't scream at you then it's okay.
Fucking vegans.

>chopping down trees
>vegan

Nah brah, I only eat fruits that have fallen off the branch freely, caught mid-air as to not steal from the ground crawlers.
The trees are planted and then left alone to live as they desire, to compete naturally with the other dumb beasts. We enlightened rationalists don't murder, brah.

Only carnicel scum chop down beautiful living plants, probably to use the space to cage polluting cows.

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>Nah brah, I only eat fruits that have fallen off the branch freely, caught mid-air as to not steal from the ground crawlers.
So, if the cattle wanders off and you snatch it then it's fine huh?
You just admited you do that to plants.
>The trees are planted and then left alone to live as they desire, to compete naturally with the other dumb beasts. We enlightened rationalists don't murder, brah.
Yes you do, you think you are high and mighty but you murder plants you fucking MURDERED LEAVE PLEANTS ALONE STOP KILLING PLANTS YOU MURDERS!

Wouldn't mind if somebody ate my body desu, waste of meat otherwise

I laugh at the absolute state of mental weakness you possess. Poor thing.

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>pasta or potatoes
>heaviest starches on the planet earth
>carnivore
kek

You're not understanding me.
To harvest from a plant doesn't kill it. They mass produce roots, leaves, seeds and fruits. They WANT to be harvested, it boosts their growth and survival.
To "harvest" an animal is to kill it (or it's children to steal the milk).
A vegan can be fully well fed without a single plant dying. It takes effort and planning, but morality and health are their own reward.

same muh dude, but only once I've lived a long Free life.

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>How it works
>Dumbed down to middle school level
Get the fuck out of here.

I probably would try to go vegetarian, but due to my living arrangements I can't, I have to eat what's given to me.

What ever you say plant killer, all these mental gymnastics you have to do must be hard for you.
>but I believe the plants want to be harvested
Yeah I am sure that's what all killers think "they wanted it to happen, besides it's good for them, it's good for their survival"

Vegans need to take supplements for vitamin deficencies.

I have seen or heard the same for carnivore dieters, and they all say they feel good and are healthy.

Please explain.

Where in my post do you see me advocating veganism?

This kills the thread.

Poultry’s evolutionary strategy of being tasty to the global apex predator has made it one of the most successful species on the planet. Do you get upset about the millions of insects that die in suicidal mating flights?
Our capacity for empathy is a wonderful feature of our brains, but I’ve come to think that the tendency to attempt to universalize it indiscriminately is as much of an evolutionary trap as moths flying into lightbulbs or beetles mating with beer bottles. You’re being captured by a superstimulus.

Thats not the point you idiot.
Veganism and carnivore are opposite extremes on the diet-spectrum.
The point i was making was that carnivore dieters have yet a need to supplement their diet, as opposed to vegans.

Pretty much. They never have an answer for it.

I know some people with family in asia and they say pretty much everything nowadays is deep fried and with meat, which it didn't used to be.

You are asking me to defend something I'm not advocating, so yes that is the point.

Your "horseshoe theory" only makes the argument that carnivores are just as dumb as vegans.

By the way, carnivores can't get Vitamin C or dietary fiber from their diets, so yes they need supplements as well.

Mother nature is not a conscience entity with karmic agendas. True nature is uncaring, indifferent, and entirely without purpose beyond an endless, chaotic circle of life and death.

>feed cow grains, it gets fatter
>feed same calories of grass(it's natural food), it stays healthy.

IT MUST BE MUH CALORIE DIFFERENCE

Billions of birds living short, tortured lives is the opposite of success, with the males being genocided at birth.
Only Machine Logic Ideology can make fucked up claims that "the higher the number the better, irrespective of the context". Please don't be that dumb.
The insects are free to inflict whatever pains they want upon themselves, it's moral for anyone to self-harm (but it ain't smart).

The carnists are paying other carnists to chop down rainforeststo grow cows and cow feed; to dump plastic nets into the ocean; to spew pigshit into the air; to generate anitbiotic immune pathogens...
Their lack of intelligence, empathy, and morality is causing us a global suicide.
I understand that the clogged brain arteries makes thinking hard, but I can hope that one day they'll see the errors of their ways and seek redemption.

Wrong.
Must suck for you to be able to fall for such a pathetic, nihilistic ideology.

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dude, you must be a fucking retarded freshman that took some intro logic course.

I literally did not ask you to defend veganism, I was simply making an example that carnivore's have yet a need to supplement their diets.

Oh, bY tHe WaY, simply saying, "carnivores cant get vitamin c or dietary fiber from their diets, so yes they need supplements as well," does not prove me wrong.

Carnivores have been reporting that, despite the lack of some vitamins in meat, their bodies feel good and healthy. Implying that MAYBE, they don't need to supplement it?

That's not true at all. Vitamic C can be gotten from organs and roe. But, vitamin c competes with glucose for absorbtion, so the more sugar you eat, the less vitamin c you actually get. And dietary fiber is bullshit. You do not need any kind of fiber for any reason.

this doesnt kill the thread.

>Wrong.
>Must suck for you to be able to fall for such a pathetic, nihilistic ideology.

Actually, it gives me great comfort to think of the bigger picture not being controlled by any specific interest or agenda. It must be terribly frightening to have to imagine non-corporeal, existential forces as something sentient and personal just so you can feel like you are in control and can tolerate living.

>You do not need any kind of fiber for any reason
Tell that to the people with diverticulitis

why are you on 4chins?

go back to plebbit you fucking retard.

You asked me to explain why veganism isn't shit, as if I ever said it wasn't shit. Are you the Youtube schizo, by any chance?

>The point i was making was that carnivore dieters have yet a need to supplement their diet
That does prove it wrong

Which organs are you eating to get your vitamin C? The only ones that seem to have any would require either an unrealistic amount of calories (9100 kcal for beef liver) and/or put you at risk for things like CJD (brains).

>And dietary fiber is bullshit. You do not need any kind of fiber for any reason.
Dietary fiber has many functions in the body which are required for optimal health.

oh i get it, you are autistic.

Medfag here. Intramyocellular fat is the mechanism of diabetes. Fat is also insulin producing. When you eat, fat is in the blood and insulin is released. Fat is uptaken by cells and incorporated into the body since it is dense in calories at 9Cal/g vs carbs at 4Cal/g. Too much fat covers insulin receptors which are on the muscle and liver. Boom, insulin resistance and type two diabetes. Think of the analogy of a clogged drain. If you have a clogged drain, you could use less water but that's not how it should function. The root cause is the clogged drain. Doctors right now try to treat diabetes by using less water and have very little to no nutritional training. I had to seek out course after medical school.

And more ad hominem attacks. Sad.

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>Which organs are you eating to get your vitamin C? The only ones that seem to have any would require either an unrealistic amount of calories (9100 kcal for beef liver) and/or put you at risk for things like CJD (brains).

The amount of Vitamin C you need on a meat diet is practically nonexistent in the first place. This is because scurvy, one of the biggest arguments against meat diets and for fruits and vegetables, is a disease where one cannot turn proline and lysine into hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine without Vitamin C as a catalyst. This happens because carbohydrate-heavy foods lack the necessary amount of hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine the way meat does, which is why you have to supplement it with heavy amounts of Vitamin C from fruits and vegetables. Eating only meat bypasses the need for Vitamin C.

>Dietary fiber has many functions in the body which are required for optimal health.

Name a single bodily function that worsens as a direct result of a lack of fiber and is also not directly caused by poor diet.

>Mother Nature is loving but vengeful. She poisons those who enslave and slaughter her children.
>a vegan appealing to the omnipotent judgement of mother nature
>peak irony
Nowhere in the human story of development is their historical precedent for veganism. Also the ill treatment of animals in factory farms is a problem, but its more of problem with industrialization(which ironically enough is what makes veganism sustainable) rather then eating meat itself.

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Except there are no actual long term studies done on this diet

This greatly ignores hormones. You eat eat the same calories under OMAD and change your body composition based on that alone.

there's literally no point in responding to you.
its funny how you act like you know about logical fallacies, but you are literally too stupid to understand arguments that you resort to logical fallacies yourself.

i'm done responding to an autist like you. bye.

>mfw ate raw beef liver for breakfast every day for a month

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>vitamin D from food
HAHAHAHAHA

i love you!

It's because you are mixing foods, which is unnatural and stupid.

God mentions meat, veggies and fruits in his holy book. Easy. Vegancucks are hated because they are sjw/cuck-types that harp their man-made morality. Carnivores are basically right wing diet version that opposes the left vegan marxists.