Is SS really that bad if you add pull-ups?

>Everyone recommends SS but it doesn’t seem right
Unironically, SS w/ the book and a coach is the top-tier for novice progression. Brainlets that didn't do it close to correct are responsible for maligning it

how does one do it not “close to correct”

>main goal is to lose weight
>SS

Are you trolling or what?

>user is trying to lose weight
>SS if top tier

are you trolling too?

A:
Leg press 3*8
Bench press 3*8
"Dead"lift 3*8
Cable crossover 3*12
Dumbbell curl 3*12
Push-ups till failure

B:
Leg press 3*8
Seated dumbbell shoulder press 3*8
Barbell row 3*8
Tricep pushdown 3*12
20 minutes of jogging

>I'm doing SS bro

>posts random routine
how is that even close to correct?

Reading comprehension?

I said everyone recommends SS and I said I’m not sure that’s right for me. what do you mean

why dont you enlighten me then. I can't wait to hear how you explain this

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SS requires you to bulk. Thats the biggest part of the routine. How did you miss this part?

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>didn't do it close to correct

why didn't you just say anons didn't do the actual program at all instead of saying, "didn't do it close to correct."

He's asking how one /doesn't/ do it close to correct and I am providing an example. You addelpated moron.

is good for newbies
if you're not bulking you may not grow as quickly but it'll still work
add accessories for arms

and im asking you why you chose to use the words close to correct instead of just, "didn't do the program at all?"
you weren't even close to correct with understanding me.

Is weight loss magical to you? 'cause I don't feel like explaining nutrition and exercise 101. Weight will be lost, both muscle and fat, lifting for strength slants that in favor of keeping muscle. It's also common to stay the same weight for a while and drop inches around the waist

Because it isn't? One sub-chapter out of 8 chapters deals with diet and it details specifically that overweight people need to eat at maintenance.

Check the amrap sets, accessory lifts (which you can do lower weight higher reps on) and the frequency method for pushups etc. Also the way progression and resers work. Thats the differences. Theres free pdfs of the book floating round the web. There are also hypertrophy variants (goohle phraks greyskull hypertrophy iirc)

I'm not or .

You do it 'close to correct' by following the routine as written; maybe throwing in a few sets of curls of dips, when not necessary. Maybe missing a few sessions. Maybe partying 'till 8AM on Sunday.

Sure but it still seems like fullbody barbell training three times per week with linear progression and deloads upon stalling.

>fullbody barbell training three times per week with linear progression and deloads upon stalling
Because that basic template is what works for anyone below an intermediate lifter in terms of minimum effective dose, the least work for most reward, which is 99.9% of the population

Just do an Upper/Lower split 4 days a week
3x5 for big lifts, 3x8 for accessories, 3x10 for vanity muscles

Hmm...

It is. All strength beginner programs are basically your compound lifts squats/dl/ohp etc. But there are enough differences. Compare the books to see what i mean. For example gslp has frequency method which has you doing frequent sets of pushups etc through the day, plus accessories that SS doesnt.

any specific ones? creating my own routine never seems to go well

>You do it 'close to correct' by following the routine as written
If someone doesn't read the book or have a coach, they don't know if they're doing it close to correct. They're not

Why are you using intermediate programming for a novice?

Honestly the main difference between an intermediate and novice program mostly comes down to volume
I figure in a week he'd do something like:
>6 sets chest
>6 sets back
>6 sets shoulders
>3 sets bis/tris
>12 sets legs
>6 sets abs
Which is totally doable unless he's ridiculously out of shape

Stick to mostly compounds, barbells or dumbbells both work fine despite what Jow Forums tells you. I'd go:
>barbell/dumbbell bench press
>barbell row or pull-up or chin-up
>barbell/shoulder press
>barbell squats
Those are your bread and butter. Secondary/accessory lifts come down to what you like, try something new each workout to see what feels good.

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>doesn't understand SS requires you to bulk

Do you think maintaining your diet is part of the routine? To me, it sounds like you don't know what SS is.

Maybe I am mixing up PP with SS but I am certain the book tells you to eat at a surplus. The reason being that you want to maintain linear progression. Fat people can maintain it and still have linear progression up to a certain point but much longer than skinnier people.

>add pull-ups?
It already had pull-ups and chinups.
You read the book didn't you user?

>shit posture
>skinny fat
>barely progress in lifts

Is there a program for me? I just started SL again but really all i want it to look good.