I like it in the Phenibut

I already told you where to get it OP. Use tor and get some bitcoin. It’s safer easier and cheaper than anything else you could do

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Thank god I live in the U.S.

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yes, straight to my door no drama's ausfag here

This shit is so frustrating.

>be me
>first time trying it: 1 gram
nothing happens
>second time: 1.5 grams
nothing
>third time: 2.5 grams
full effects. Felt exactly the way people describe it. Go to the gym and have a great workout. My stomach starts to get upset but I attribute it to me working out so hard and push through my workout. Get home and still nauseous. Head is spinning. Definitely from the phenibut. This last for about two days though it wasn't as bad the second and third day.
>4th time: 1.75 grams
nothing
>5th time: 2 grams
feel it very little. Actually go to a job interview that day and I *guess* it helped a little bit, but it was for a technical interview, and though it turned out to be a pretty easy interview, I noticed I felt kind of loopy and wasn't able to think as well as usual.
>6th time: 2.2 grams
felt it a little more than 2 grams, but still not as good as the 2.5 grams which was perfect aside from the nausea. Try to do some more difficult interview type problems (computer science) and it definitely affected me negatively in terms of cognition. I just got back from an interview today that I was hoping to use phenibut for but decided against it because I wanted to be sharp.

What should I do? I really want the effects I got from 2.5 grams, but it wasn't worth it if I am going to be nauseous all the time. And the I'm not sure the benefits of 2 - 2.2 grams is worth the drop in cognition because I really didn't feel that much different in terms of social skills or whatever. Is this typical? All doses were spaced out doing 2 times a week, but at different intervals. Could I have built up a tolerance from the 2.5 grams dose? Would you recommend maybe not doing it for a week or two and seeing what happens when taking 2 grams after that?

you could try some ginger for the nausea

really? Do I take it with the phenibut or when the nausea happens? Just the shit in the spice jar you buy from the grocery store?

exactly, it's a known antinausea agent. 1-3g powder is fine, just swallow it with some water (beware, it'll burn)

examine.com/supplements/ginger/

i'd take it with the phenibut.

Thanks. I think I remember reading that people sometimes use ginger for this reason before I ever took phenibut. I think I'm going to try it. I'll post what happens next time there's a thread.

I fucking love this

>can't get e for a festival so just take phenibut and addy
>get 10 numbers in a single night and make out with hot chick

then earlier this week

>pop pheni, get good asf workout and talk to gym crush
>take nap, which I normally can never do due to insomnia
>go on date and girl tells me that we need to hang out again

I posted this earlier, a list of (mostly) GABAergic substances that will help you, even though they are not GABA analogs:
- Kava Kava
- Kratom
- Jujube (root powder)
- Valerian root
- St. John's Wort
- Bai zhu (Atractolydes Macrocephala)
- Mexican scammony root (or any Convolvulin containing plant)
- Magnolia Officinalis (look for extracts containing Magnolol and Honokiol)
- Licorice root
- Lemon Balm
- Goji Berry (contains Withanolides, like Ashwagandha)
- Chamomile (Apigenin has a lot of functions, look into it)
- Skullcap (Baicalin extract also works, it's the active component, a GABAergic)
- Eleuthero root (Eleutherosides, similar in function to Withanolides)
- Rhodiola Rosea
- Ginseng (any of the million different varieties, even though most are not botanically related).

This is not a complete list, just a place to start your experimentation when something like Phenibut is not legally available.

God Bless

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You should include Ashwagandha in the list too

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I would have, but it was in a thread about Ashwagandha and I was offering alternatives.

We should just assemble a master list. Imagine stacking all of those.

You would be immortal.

anyone got any success reversing phenibut tolerance

4 grams barely does anything for me anymore cuz i used it every other day for like a week and then went back to twice a week

im ordering some kava online cuz i heard it upregulates your gaba-b receptors that phenibut works on

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Just don't take it for a while, bro. It's the only way. You'll get back to the point, within a few months, where 1-2g gives you that feeling.

Maybe try F-phenibut? It’s a lot stronger and is said to have less withdrawal and tolerance effects

Buying offbrand, will this still work?

i heard that waiting does little to nothing for phenibut tolerance but i've reduced my dosage alot and am just taking a gram twice a week now

Don't mix that shit together, user
Phenibut and ginger creates mustard gas

Probably a lift mode shill. He just earned another .025 cents

>offbrand

It's a chemical, duderino

>i heard that waiting does little to nothing for phenibut tolerance

It's a GABAergic, same as alcohol, and waiting certainly does a lot for alcohol tolerance.

Sounds like you're not used to it yet. If you get a little bit addicted to it you will become more sensitive to it. I suggest taking 1.5 grams each day for at least a week straight.

Here is the result of a Reddit survey for Anxiety

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Oh shit, very interdasting. Many things I didn't list there, and of course, a few things not listed there that I discussed. In any case, that gives us a lot of things to look at in terms of anxiolytics, which has been the main focus of my research.

try different vendor, might be quality issue

take it with fasoracetam and you won't develop tolerance

benefit of these over SSRIs/benzodiazepams? asking for a (girl)friend

PHE Benefits:
- removes anxiety like benzo but doesn't make you zombie
- makes you motivated and very social
- can drive on it
- can be bought legally without prescription
- pretty cheap

compared to SSRI
- SSRI is longterm solution, will feel the effect only after 4 - 6 weeks
- can be and should be taken long term every day
- no dependency, but withdrawal issues might appear
- can affect libido and eating habits

PHE Negatives:
- can be used only once or twice per week or tolerance and dependency might/will appear
- severe withdrawal if addicted
- shouldnt be combined with benzos or alcohol

Personally i am on SSRI longterm, works pretty well at removing anxiety and panic attacks. I use Phenibut only several times a month to boost confidence or for work purposes. You can see phenibut like alcohol without negative effects on motoric/brain functinality - you become relaxed, social but not stupid.

Aus fag here i just threw 100gs of mine away for totalnootropics. loved it but the shit was giving me way too much rebound depression/anxiety.

Get some f-phenibut from newmind

Cool, thanks a lot. So if my gf has panic attacks/anxiety from time to time but doesn't want to change her entire brain with SSRIs, you recommend periodically taking some of these drugs? Any in particular that you think are good

Try some nootropics like semax. dont go with phen rebound anxiety is fucked.

Lol. Why is all of this shit Russian

Overrated shite plus the hangover from it is horrendous and not worth it.

because Western pharmajews banned or made everything powerful enough prescription-only, unlike Soviet drugs that are largely still unknown in the West and thus aren't banned yet.

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Literally just buy it off the liftmode site.

Really depends of the state of your stomach, if you ate or not, i don’t eat when i wake up, until noon, if i take 1g when i wake up, i feel a nice buzz at noon.
If you plan to go out this evening, take like 2g at 5pm and don’t eat, the real tricky thing with phenibut is that you have to take it on an empty stomach, which is difficult since most people here eat a lot to gain muscle.
Also pro tip, REALLY reduce your alcohol intake when you go out, took 3g one evening and drank as Usual, made me puke everywhere in the club

>i heard
You heard shit, phenibut is a depressant, don’t take any depressant (phenibut, mdma, alcohol) for a week and you’ll see

Please help a fellow ausfag out and point me in the direction of the site you used.

What kind of dosage are you talking here?

Thank you kind user

So you would recommend F-Phenibut over normal? And newmind are fine to deliver to Aus?

Liftmode don’t deliver to Aus

Does anyone have any experience of this helping them last longer in bed as well? Read it a couple places but never really anecdotally.

>shouldnt be combined with benzos or alcohol
I enjoy getting out and shooting some pool and getting trashed once a week or so and it's a decent way to avoid having to go 8 drinks deep to do so. So far the only bad effects I've had were from not following my own plan and getting obnoxiously drunk, but even then, much less bloating and hangover.

Can someone please just post how to get it in aus ffs

Second this

your dumb pun doesn't work, its pronounced pheni-bute, not pheni-butt

as in phenylbutyric acid

Thank you for keeping this thread alive - I’m determined to keep it going until someone posts the goods on what site to get off to get delivered to Aus

ill let u snort a line off my cock

If that’s what it takes then ok

Sorry ya bogan kunt

abc.net.au/news/2018-02-23/what-is-phenibut-the-drug-suspected-in-school-overdose/9475814

>Earlier this month, the Therapeutic Goods Administration officially listed Phenibut as a Prohibited Substance, meaning that its possession, use, sale or manufacture is now banned in Australia.

I would take the doctors advice and go the SSRI route possibly ,the benefits/damage ratio is by far best of all available substances. But depends on the severity of anxiety and panic attacks.

jesus so many faggots on this board

very edgy XD
Jow Forumsrdankmemes xD cock

Did you even read the original post you fuckin sped?

Why do you suggest f-Phenibut?

>Why is all of this shit Russian

Pretty simple - the Jews cannot sell you SSRIs if the Russian GABA analogs (Phenibut, Picamilon, etc) work well.

Anyway, I'm now working on a sort of master-list of anxiolytic and adaptogenic substances, with relevant studies and notes on active compounds.

It would be nice to crowd-source the work and make a comprehensive list, but I'm not sure how we might accomplish that.

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see also, the r/nootropics wiki from r*ddit has something very similar

phenibut is also a great way to get drunk off 2-3 drinks if you're on an empty stomach like u should be while taking it

no need to lose those gains

alcohol tolerance doesn't go down in a week

Why does this stuff make me diarrhoea so bad? I can't go anywhere on it cos I just constantly shit.

I was that first post, and I was just interested in continuing the research.

phenibut is great, but don't take it daily user.
daily use will quickly build tolerance and physical addiction.
withdrawels are hell

great stuff in correct dosage and intervall tho, I take 700mg every 3 days
makes lifting wonderful

That would be allegal. Your Obama's decided it was bad for you island people. Just take SSRI and opioids. Cuts.

I'm actually thinking of trying daily use, maybe around 500-750, even a lower dose like that I feel anti anxiety effects. I've had anxiety my whole life, panic attacks shit like that and phenibut does wonders. I've tried 3 days in a row with no withdrawals, if my tolerance gets shot and I feel more anxious then i'll stop but i've heard negative and positive stories from daily use it seems that ever body is different so i'll experiment

yep everyone's different, I've heard it all, from no withdrawls, to heroin-level withdrawls.
If you wish to experiment, do, but make sure to have the discipline to go through a few possibly harsh weeks.
Most importantly take some off-periods every now and then, especially in the beginning, gradually increase the period you take it.
And for god's sake stay with your dosage - there are people having to take 20g/day, DO NOT become one of those.
Also make sure to take enough magnesium, works wonders with minimizing bad effects, and maybe look into Agmatine - helped me keep tolerance and addiction to a minimum.

Good luck user!

Yea, most i've taken is 2 grams and even then I felt it was too much, couldn't even imagine taking 20g a day that seems nuts. I don't have an addictive personality I used to smoke a lot of weed until I realized this is probably not good for me and slowed it way down. I feel a lot of people who experience horrible withdrawals probably aren't really paying attention to their body or mind in the first place and not really self aware. Thanks for the advice

OP here - still looking for some fellow ausfags to hint at where to buy from that will ship to Aus

This shit has worked for me literally one time and I'm almost finished with the container. And yes I've taken it on an empty stomach, with caffeine etc

Can you stupid niggers please just post how to get in Australia Jesus Christ

I took phenibut 1-2 times weekly for 1 year and it legitimately gave me depression, be careful if you plan on eating phenibut

>This shit has worked for me literally one time and I'm almost finished with the container.

Did you space out the doses?

Yes in fact I'm "on" Phenibut right now for the first time in a few weeks and I literally feel nothing. I took about 3g

i would advise 300 or less in that case, it's what the ruskies prescribe for daily use anti anxiety.

What about drinking it?

That's odd. Try to go one or two months and see what happens.