If a girl rejected and ignored you before you were Jow Forums, is it beta to accept her after you got Jow Forums?

Looks get your foot in the door but your personality is what gets you a seat at the dinner table, metaphorically. Looks matter for first impressions a lot because how you look says a lot about how you treat yourself, but after that, its who you are that keeps people interested in you. It's a harsh truth of this world that looks matter but let that be motivation for you and your fitness journey.

This question makes me sad just lift mate

How about instead of worrying about what walking vaginas think about you, why don't you come represent Jow Forums on 4craft? pastebin.com/CFLWPDyj

It'd be beta to date her but you should hook up with her. But always keep in mind that she's shallow

Yeah
Pump and dump

No, but cuck her as much as possible. Also treat her like shit, and be sure to have the most degrading sex possible.
>she wouldn't even give you the time of the day
>now she's drinking your piss
Women.

That's when you fuck her up the asshole and piss on her after all over her bed.

Just to fuck? No but just know she'll drop you the second a more attractive/fit man gives her attention

Fucking jesus christ perfect slam pig material here. Is this the girl? Totally attainable. Will appreciate sex with you. Will worship you. Will beg for your dick all the time. Just the right THICC. latinas are the GOAT

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Both guys and girls rejected me so I get fit with the goal of causing as much emotional damage to everyone I touch as possible

Gib ig or name

breh you act like you shouldn't be having the most degrading sex possible with every girl you fuck

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No. Its why we lift and train. For the pussy. Be happy with your achievement of turning her opinion of you around.

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I wouldn't do ass to pussy, or ass to mouth with a wifeable girl. Yep, I know, I'm the romantic kind.

Counterpoint: You obviously didn’t particularly like who you were considering you started working out and making healthy changes, so why hold it against others when they also prefer the newer you?

Did this with a cute blonde chick I knew in HS. I lost weight and she was almost begging for me back. We fucked 2 days in. Blocked her on all social media and her number.

OP sauce plz

Yes

This is a good point.

Had this happen, I told her I'd be happy to fuck her brains out but I'm not interested in a relationship with her.

Who is this

I NEED A NAME!

I used to follow this chick on IG but now I dont whats her IG Op

She won't want you no matter how fit you get, user. Move on

Counter-counterpoint: Maybe the reason why he didn't like himself and decided to change is because others didn't like him as he was, to begin with. The beauty standards of society are indeed real (even if there may be a biologically-based reason for their existence).

I don’t necessarily see beauty standards as a bad thing though. You should always aspire to be the best version of yourself.

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This. But only if pump and dumping. If she shows further interest, show less interest and later demand changes while setting up the next girl.

Also: there are guys out there that have amazing self confidence and can pull hot girls despite not being in the best shape, but they have good brains and generally aren’t the types that are drawn to Jow Forums.

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Who is this Semen Demon?

2 lbs of lean mass to who ever provides source

Pumping and dumping is the only way to go
shows that you are now above her

There is almost nobody on the planet that will be with you for personality alone.
Staying with your wife after she got 3rd degree burns all over her body is not the same as asking out the 1/10 deformed chick from school because she's nice and caring.

A lot of people are nice and fun to be around, the ones that are physically attractive are the ones you pursue a relationship with. That's how it works. Ugly + nice = friend, sexy + nice = partner material

>an attractive, yet basic dime a dozen latina thott can still be an IG star and make lots of money off beta orbiters

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It's not beta, but, if you want to be alpha, ask her out after show her your new bod then blow her off.

Just bee urself :)

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2 lbs of lean mass for me.

Exactly, and I should add:

It's beta to reject her because you're still holding on to butthurt from when you weren't Jow Forums. How could you be mad at her for having good taste? Dyels don't deserve pussy

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Theoretically you should have been improving yourself mentally as well as physically

Only if it's a one off thing. If it's all based off of physical attraction you should pump and dump, a prolonged relationship probably wouldn't work out

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Don't disagree with either desu. As for the latter, some people can be confident regardless of their looks, for whatever reason.

Different personalities and all.

fucking this.

trust me user. after a while you start wearing sweatshirts and ponchos to get a moments peace walking around in public.

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Great point
Tumblr tier shitpost senpai

If you think she's attractive but don't want a relationship, either pump and dump, or degrade her, eg. slapping her ass, pulling hair, misogynistic shit like that to put her in her place

fpbp

>be me
>have friend
>friend had hard live
>lot of deaths in family + failed relationship happen within 3 months
>friend is sad
>ff 1 year
>friend does nothing but chill anymore and has no hobbies
>he aint ugly but he let himself go
>unshaved/out of shape/ no haircut etc
>asks me why people start to avoid him
>honesttalk.exe
>ff 2 months
>he starts working out again
>starts making music again
>starts traveling and posting picture
>girl who rejected him messages him on fb
>first response to smth like "hey, nice photos how was thailand? Was thinking about spending a vacation there."
>was "Sorry, you weren't interested in me when i asked you out a year ago. Now i am not interested in you. have a nice day"
>next time i see him complains how much he wants a date with her but she only likes him because he has changed

If you aren't interesting girls won't care about you. If you become interesting they do. Blaming them for that is pretty stupid. Just enjoy that you "upgraded" your "dating level".

The "who you are" is somewhat misconstrued

It doesn't or shouldn't mean unconditional love for your immortal soul. This is the beta dream intended to excuse their inferiority.

I've been with a woman who didn't understand my ambition, drive, dedication to fitness. I think she genuinely though that it was all show to compensate for and mask my true self. She also thought that oppressed people were inherently virtuous. The poor, minorities, women, drug addicts, etc. None of them could do no wrong. At the same time she was very insecure about herself was horrified that people might expect anything from her.

I've also been with a woman who was an athlete herself. I didn't even have to explain anything about my life to her. She understood me, supported me and was also infatuated with me.

One of these women liked me for who I am, the other didn't. Guess which one.

As for the OP and everyone else. You shouldn't be mad at girl for rejecting your past self. You weren't good enough for you either, so don't expect anything else from others. However, that doesn't mean you should go back to her with the intent of proving your worth. You are calling the shots not, and always will be. Remember that always.

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No.
Same way you're not an asshole for accepting the former porker with a rank cunt after she got thicc/fit and learned how to take better care of herself.

Think about it the other way: aren't there girls that you kind of liked but were perhaps too fat or unattractive in any other way for you to consider dating them. If they got fit or became more attractive through changing their looks in any other way wouldn't you then be more likely to go out with them? I think that's only natural and in some way a kind of compliment

yes

Would an average 6x5 be enough for a girl like this

but what you look like IS who you are. It's a reflection of your priorities, discipline, motivation, whatever. You're not some being that's detached from their physical body.

Ask yourself why you’re attracted to her. Is it because of her personality, or is it because of her looks, or both?
If it’s one of the latter, why do you think it’s ok for you to value looks but not her?