Deficient in 9 vitamins and minerals

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Jesus Christ, imagine the state of his shits.

why even bother with every carnist.
the are much more retarded than any vegan.

Not long, relatively. You will eventually develop a plethora of diseases.

Humans are not carnivores. I eat meat. I like to eat meat. But I am not a brain dead idiot like some people on Jow Forums. You need to eat plant foods, period.

>13% vitamin a
a fucking little carrot is gonna give you 300% lol
>0% vit c
half a sweet pell paprika is gonna give you 150% lol
>31% vitamin e
its almost impossible nowdays not to get enough vitamin e, I think he makes his stream in oil and oil has a lot of vitamin e.
>0% fiber
well lol
>15% vitamin k
a fucking cup of cale is gonna give you 1000 of daily recommendation.

I also think that his steak is full seasoned in salt so he will have 300% of sodium.
People like him are just stupid, plain stupid. He has no idea about nutrition.

Refute this then plantcuck
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That makes no sense you clearly don’t know what the word supplements means.

holy shit anglos are FAT

He's right you retard, supplements are not 'substitutes' or else they would be called 'substitutes'

There is no way this guy only eats muscle meat and has survived this long. I'm waiting for the innevitable scandal that exposes him for the fraud he is.

Lmao most of those studies dont confirm the claims made in the text.
Claim:
>Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:
Study:
> Indians appear to have low baseline serum coenzyme Q(10) levels which may be due to vegetarian diets. Further studies in larger number of subjects would be necessary to confirm our findings
>60 test subjects
>poo in the loo indians

Hoe about you post something factual instead of some pseudo claims

>When youre a pregnant woman
The only time to take supplements.

>no fatty in France
Lol this guy never visited, I see only that in the streets.

>most of those studies
Which other ones?

Phoneposting lmao so wont bother looking trough them, picked one at random and even that was poor study.
How about you go trough them and post ones you find credible

This was a good one

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1. First is not even a study, just a bad outdated statistics that shows how much struggle vegans face, great agument.
2. 49% of americans are b12 deficient, most of them eat a high meat diet. just take a supplement
3. vegan diet is not equal to a high fiber diet and reduced half life of vitamin d3 suppelements prevents from overdose
4. raw vegetarian diets are not vegan lol. The other study is done on a single family with children lol fucking keke
5. study is gone of vegetarian and omnivores, not vegans. No talk about creatine deficiency you idiot. Study just shows that vegetarians get a better memory, not if it was bad or worse thaan omni before. I very flawed study. The other study talks about creatine monohydrate supplementation in general. Do you even read your stuff?
6. Cant see the "less gains" study as it seems to be removed.
7. Omega 3 studies: first is clearly FOR vegans and vegetarians lol, second is just talking about ALA conversion so not an argument, 3rd is the same.. just like the forth lol.
8. first one is about vegetarians, second one as well even mentioning that they didnt find carnitine deficiency, third one is another vegetarian study on a 11 years old boy lol, the last one talks about methionine and lysine intake which is has a bad ratio IN MEAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
9. you cant be deficient in taurine god fucking damn. the study also just shows that vegans piss out less taurine than meat eaters.

I stop here because I can clearly show that you dont read your studies. This just shows that you are mentally ill and probably should get something else to do with your life.
You cant win with this and you cant make a case out of it, you have no idea what you talk about. Just stop, this is very sad.

>being this mad
Lel

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>Doctors hate him, with this one simple trick you can gain 100000lbs instantly

indefinitely. Everyone has been sold a bunch of lies about how critical vitamins are, hence why people get so defensive when you tell them they arnt as required as they believe, youre challenging them on their ingrained beliefs they have had drilled into them since birth. On a meat only diet your body is in a different state it does not require vitamins or atleast high quantities of vitamins that you do when youre in a glucose driven state. There are also various mechanisms in place such as ascorbic acid reuptake via the glut1 pathway which recycles vitamin c, the kidneys reabsorb sodium, potassium, magnesium and calcium. The body shifts into a different state with a different set of mechanisms that allow for a carniverous diet to be viable.

jbc.org/content/279/15/14975.full

sure, but you still have to eat organ meats or take a supplement

shawn quacker wants you to believe he's alive just by eating rib eyes and shit, which is a complete fraud

Huh, that actually makes perfect sense.

They body externally changes according to our diets for good or ill. We also observe changes in cognition and emotional state.
Why shouldn't these dietary changes affect our body functions at it's very core?
Is it because the modern diet is so normalized that we simply have to believe that it is all the same so that most dieting and exercise and health advice can be applied over hte widest possible area?

tell that to every vegan, everywhere. Both extremes are stupid but once in a blue moon work

I'm gonna need a source for those percentages

Nobody questions their diet or the very core beliefs that it is constructed around. They dont do their own research they just accept what they have been told as fact. So many people will codemn people who only eat meat yet they will never attempt it themselves, if you were going to suffer side effects from a meat only diet they would slowly occur over months at which point you could reintroduce plants, its not like you are going to drop down dead one day because youve only been eating meat, it would be a gradual onset of symptoms, but people will refuse to even try such a diet and label it as ridiculous or stupid, again, because all of what they know about nutrition is being challeneged, its a defensive mechanism designed to keep you safe, you know that including vegetables in your diet keeps you in a relative state of status quo, so you are protective of this diet and are unwilling to attempt anything that may cause you harm, even though you have no real reason to be concerned as any detrimental effects are completely reversible, people need to let go of their preconcieved notions built on beliefs which are not factually complete and experiment.

>a fucking little carrot is gonna give you 300% lol
thats not retinol budday

>On a meat only diet your body is in a different state it does not require vitamins
Citation needed

It literally says in the pic

*or atleast high quantities of vitamins

Stop cherry picking, i included both because i am not fully sure.

Vitamin c is present in meat in small quantities, it may even have a higher concentration of DHA which is vitamin c in its oxidised form which can be coverted back into ascorbic acid in the body. If the meat youre eating has blood in it or on it, or at some point throught it, then it has to contain a certain level of vitamin c that was running through the animals veins it came from. Combine that with the bodies ability to recycle vitamin c and it wouldnt take a very large amount to keep levels topped off at a suitable level.

well people got scurvy on long trips in the past cause they didn't have access to fresh fruits and vegetables

the closest case we have to carnivores is the innuit who eat a ton of organ meats that are a confirmed adequate source of vitamin c, but on top of that they still eat berries and seaweed and shit so even they aren't completely carnivore

but good luck with your mental illness, it's a shame that taxpayers like me have to pay for your inevitable hospital bills though

Holy shit kys

is this actually true?

>herbivore accusing others of mental illness
Is this projection?

For all the people saying he will die, tell me this: how do truly carnivorous animals survive and not die from vitamin deficiencies?

I'm asking that genuinely and not in a smart ass sort of way

by drinking the blood of the herbivores they kill.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydroascorbic_acid

“Recycling of ascorbate via active transport of DHA into cells, followed by reduction and reuse, mitigates the inability of humans to synthesize it from glucose.”

Humans do not have the enzyme in the liver to convert glucose to vitamin c like other animals, but nature gave us an alternative other than having to receive it via diet. Believing that you can only receive it from diet never made much sense to me, what about long winters when the only available food source was meat and all plant matter died? There always had to be a way for us not to perish just because a certain vitamin wasnt present in our diet. The reason sailors were getting scurvy was because they were eating hardtack which kept them in a glucose driven state, glucose and vitamic c also compete for the same transport pathways, glucose will always beat vitamin C, so the sailors already lack of dietary vitamin c, combined with their intake of hardtack, would have prevented them entering a fat adapted state, so any meat they were consuming they werent able to get any vitamin c from and their bodies also wouldnt have been recycling vitamin c as effectivly. Potentially all the sailors had to do was only eat meat and they would not have suffered from scruvy, they could have ate fish, they were sailing in the fucking ocean full of them, but they lacked the knowledge, all they knew was that lemons/ limes cured scurvy and they never tried any other methods because the information wasnt avaiable to them.

Calling it a mental illness really doesnt bother me in the slightest. It just shows ignorance and your inability to cope with something that challenges your core beliefs.

A lot of animals can synthesize vitamins - lions like a lot of other mammals (excl humans) can synthesize vit C.

even assuming this is accurate which i would have to research another day, what is the point of following such an extreme meme diet? at least vegans have their ethical reasons for their meme diet, literally what's the point of this carnivore shit? i don't get it

I'm not that guy and I'm not a carnivore, but most people get sucked down this route because "normal" diets simply don't work. We get fat/acne/depressed/arthritis/etc, and we're looking for ways to combat it starting at the source.

I don't follow such an extreme diet, but eliminating grains and seed oils has done a lot for me, I get plenty of shit for that as it is. Some people seem to respond better by going a step further. Nobody really knows why, this is primarily blind empiricism at this stage.

Basically some people aren't adapted to the agriculutral diet well, even though it's been around for a long ass time.
Pre that we were pretty healthy because our body could cope with just meat, fats and fruits

What problems did you face before? What diet do you follow now?

there's no point following a (long term) carnivore diet over a normal keto diet

also as a side note when people say "grains" or "carbs" and how "they're causing them issues" 99% of the time it's some faggot eating enriched flour or heavy metal infested rice from china, good quality carbs like beans and fruits rarerly cause problems

People have a multitude of reasons. Brain fog, skin conditions, gut conditions, energy, sleep problems, weight loss

I and many others feel we function better, we feel healthier and more intune with our bodies.

Include in your research testimonials from people who have been eating only meat for years, there is one family that has only been eating steak for 19 years, they just celebrated their 19th carnivorous anniversary, also owsley stanley who was the audio engineer for greatful dead and the first clandestine to synthesize LSD was a carnivore for 50ish years and wrote extensively about it. There is also the research done by stephen phinney and vilhjalmur-stefansso.

How the fuck can Icelandic be obese?
They are like 300k. It's impossible.

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Its true that some of the benefits of eating meat only could come from the fact it eliminates processed foods which contirbutes to a lot of peoples ill helath, but me personally I have eaten meat and vegetables, nothing processed and even then I didnt feel anywhere close to how good meat only feels. So while there is some truth to it, theres still a lot more to it.

Listen to the rigan podcast. He basically said that he hasn't shit for an year. He says meat gets absorbed in it's entirety. Also he hasn't done any blood work.

Cystic acne, major depression and chronic fatigue, several joint separations, IBS - really a laundry list of the usual symptoms, now that I think about it, really a shitty way to live.

I do a low carb diet now, generally

Stupid racist white cunt. Go back to.pol dyel

>how can a percentage of a population be obese

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Shit nigga, I had bad cystic acne. I did an elimination diet of sweet potatoes and meats only, which didn't help. I excluded all grains, dairy etc etc etc. Finally, the only thing that has helped me has been a ketogenic diet. I'll try the beef fat thing. I eat a lot of liver. I have been toying with the idea of getting off keto and going vegan, but since keto has helped me so much I'm hesitant.

I've been keto for 4 months and haven't had a cyst since (touch wood).

Lets say humans are able to normally eat uranium. What would happen someone if they ate such a calorie dense food.

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If *all* plant foods cause you some mysterious "gut condition" imo it's nothing physiological, you're just mentally ill, a belief that is further reinforced by your refusal to eat anything but steaks. It's quite clear that's what you *like* eating and you're just looking for excuses to keep doing that.

Wow, newsflash. Next thing you'll be telling me they all look like they're inbred.

>vegan
>on Jow Forums
Get the fuck

You are dumb.

So you dont think insoluble fibre or anti herbivore chemicals present in plants (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_defense_against_herbivory) can irritate an already damaged gut, whether that damage has occured via antibiotic use or carbohydrate overconsumption causing gut microbiota imblances or via substance abuse or a plethora of other well known and understood causes of gut issues? It must be a mental illness? As i said, ignorant.

>going diary and gluten free gets rid of acne
who would have though, user

gut imabalnces are a real thing for a very tiny percentage of people when it comes to certain foods like grains, greens are okay for everyone, unless you have a specific allergy to one thing, in which case you can eat something else

don't try to tell me you can't eat any vegetables at all, you fucking retard cunt

I cant eat vegetabkes at all.

And i wont.

And what.

Try and calculate your intake of omega-6 PUFA. It should ideally be these can either auto-oxidize (due to charged prosthetic groups in the Complex proteins) or by superoxide, which is generated as a signalling mechanism
>this oxidation leads to impaired mitochondrial function and signalling, causing mitochondria to shrink over time (placing more reliance on glycolysis for energy) and for cells to take in more energy than they need (superoxide signal usually causes insulin receptor downregulation)

...and there are plenty more implications from there, but if that makes any sense, feel free to do more research on your own.

i know because you're MENTALLY ILL, it has nothing to do with your gut

Sure.

Coconut oil doesn't have either, what do you think of it?

Which site is that?

By this mitochondrial model, nothing is cleaner burning than saturated fat. Bring on the coconut oil.

There's an interesting group of islanders called the Kitavans:

>high carb diet, lots of fruit
>fat intake is low, but almost all from saturated from coconut
>they all fucking smoke

And by every measure they're quite healthy, living as long as anyone could hope to without access to modern healthcare with a very long healthspan. Smoking is apparently less pro-inflammatory than a high omega-6 diet.

Carnivores have different genetic makeup. They don't require the same nutrients in the same amounts that other types of animals do.

Humans are evidently not carnivores

We evidently are though

Yep myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/142929320

Um sweety he got 200% of his RDA of sodium. When you bloat max you don't need vitamins you dumb fuck, the vitamins will want you.

Retard.

How come he never eats Chicken? Is he trying to make a statement by mostly eating red meat? This diet sounds boring as fuck but I guess he's always in keto and keto apparently kills cravings.

>humans didn't eat carnivorous diet in the wild
>majority of population still isn't carnivorous
>carnivore diet shown to have negative effects like raising cholesterol and lowering testosterone
>closest relatives to human species eats mostly plants and insects
What about this leads to you to believe humans should be carnivores

Wouldn't even be able to process it as passed through. Alternatively if you could humans would be extinct for having such enormous calorie demands due to be some combination of huge and inefficient.

Reminder that "inuit" is a word made up by PCfags and doesnt exist in any eskimo language.

>humans didn't eat carnivorous diet in the wild
Wrong and we still do
>majority of population still isn't carnivorous
Wrong
>carnivore diet shown to have negative effects like raising cholesterol and lowering testosterone
Raising cholesterol is good, and it doesn't lower T, that's just you blatantly lying because T is made out of cholesterol
>closest relatives to human species eats mostly plants and insects
Wrong

You really btfo'd that cuck. How will he recover?

Wrong

Wrong

>no organ meat
This entire thread is a strawman.

whats this app called?

Realistically, that would be enough to sustain you until you get to like 75 or 80

What's the point of going full carnivore?
Why not eat nearly all meat, but then also eat some broccoli?
Especially if not eating organ meats.

Cronometer, it has less processed shit that MyFitnessPal and a little less food in general but it's the goat for tracking micros.

Don’t need vitamin c and fiber when you’re a carnivore

You wouldn't gain any weight because you actually need the mass there to add muscle/fat. Your body doesn't just reverse e=mc^2 and generate mass from energy.

You would probably need some crazy adaptations to be able to withstand such high energy. Or you'd go extinct like >8 said

Chimps became a little more omnivorous when they split off from the other great apes, which were mostly fruigivores.

Humans are even more omnivorous.

But we're still widely adapted to eating plants and especially fruit, as opposed to an obligate carnivore like a lion.

For peak health you should be eating both plants and meats.

When was the last time anyone got scurvy?