Switch from lowbar to highbar squats

it is, enjoy your rotator cuff blowout

how retarded do you have to be to impinge your shoulders on bench?

is that a serious question? Bench-related impingement is one of the most often occuring injuries other than wormchadding-induced herniated discs

your hip flexors might be too tight causing you to round at the bottom

nah no rounding at the bottom

recovering from a back injury so literally everything feels terrible right now

sorry to hear that

not very, that's like the most common bench related injury

>Highbar masterrace
youtu.be/1PpRtPivplQ

I'm 6'5 and my experience has been similar to OP. Highbar feels much better.

Why does the dumbass in the pic have the bar in front of his foot.
You put 225+ on there and it will pull you forwards

for some reason he didnt actually put the bar into the lowbar position

because your ass isn't weightless, remember that the bar + lifter C.G has to be over midfoot not just the bar C.G

with an empty bar the system C.G is further back than it is for 315 or something

Low bar squats are the biggest meme, they tend to turn into squat mornings, and goodbye back

both squats turn into squat-mornings when you grind reps though

not much of a difference in force on the lower back either since the moment arm is shorter for lowbar

t. Can't Squat 2pl8

6’4” and though I learned with highbar I’ve moved to lowbar. Less comfortable, but I’ve had better strength-producing results with it.

Alright which one would you folks suggest for someone with knee pain? That is my only obstacle with squats and it's affecting my leg workouts. Knee wraps help but not as much as I could use, but maybe I'm rwrapping them too tightly.

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>not much of a difference in force on the lower back either since the moment arm is shorter for lowbar

are you autistic? you really believe that the force on the lower back is the same in both variations? dont power shitters literally say that lowbar squats use more lower back?

Doesn't matter, if the person in the photo is trying to demonstrate low bar position they should do it correctly.

t. paralyzed manlet

>knee pain

Don't do squats if you're not gonna compete?
It's not worth two blown knees just to do squats for fun at the gym.

>dont power shitters literally say that lowbar squats use more lower back?
only very stupid ones

lowbar puts your back in a more mechanically advantageous position by shortening the moment arm, with the same weight on the bar it would actually pose less of a challenge to the lumbar and thoracic erectors

if lumber/thoracic erectors are the limiting factor for your squat, then they will be stressed the same amount with both variations, it will just take a little more weight with a lowbar position to put the same amount of stress on them

t. weak "aesthetics" fag

anyone who's ever done a lowbar squat knows your full of shit. it's painfully obvious

if you don't compete:
Front squat > High bar > Low bar
prove me wrong

except that if they put the bar exactly over midfoot, the bar+lifter C.G would actually be behind midfoot which would be incorrect

less forward knee travel feels better to some people with knee problems, so try lowbar

if that still hurts fuck it just don't squat

Well they do cause knee pain but they work really well for making me break a sweat at the gym, leg days are usually my shortest days at the gym

AthleanX has lots of content on what to do if you want to squat with knee pain. He has terrible knees himself.

Watch his videos, do Box Squats and work on ankle dorselflexion and hip mobility.

You also need to work on training motor neurons. Your brain doesnt trust your quads and hamstrings so it is using knee tendons and thats causing you knee pain. You need to do various exercises and drills to train your brain that your quads and hamstrings can take it.

>AthleanX has lots of content on what to do if you want to squat with knee pain. He has terrible knees himself.

he doesn't squat, maybe people with knee pain should stop being dogmatic retards and follow his lead instead of grinding their already fucked knees into dust

I'll see how it feels today and if it gets to be too much I'll change my leg routine up. I'm just glad deadlifts aren't a trial for my knees.

Most people can and should squat. Athlean has a reason not to

yeah, his knees are fucked up

we're talking specifically about people with fucked up knees here, remember? they probably shouldn't squat if it causes an increase in knee pain

Tried doing different bar placings? Front/Lowbar/Highbar?
Checked that your knees travel the same direction as your feet points?

>Do lowbar squats wrong like a retard
>Blame the movement for your problems

Every time.

I was easily squatting 405 low bar full ROM, injured my knee on 225 high bar. Had pain ever since. TLDR fuck high bar

Look not all knee pain is equal.

I had knee pain (5 patella dislocations) and I followed all AthleanX's advice and now I deep squat with no knee pain now.

When Athlean squats you can literally hear snapping and crunching when he holds a microphone to it. Thats not common at all especially for younger people on this forum.

Knee pain is very common when squatting and 90% of the time is something can can be fixed and resolved. Telling 100% of people with knee pain to stop squatting is ridiculous.

Follow AthleanX's advice, do it properly and see what happens. But if you hear snapping and crunching in your knee then see a doctor.

>But if you hear snapping and crunching in your knee then see a doctor.
i hear that all the time, no knee pain

checkmate faggot

doubt it desu, unless you just divebombed into the hole and snapped your shit up

closer =/= close
please actually read before responding

I never get knee pain, but I do get a bit of pain in the elbows when I do low bar.
It's not a tendonitis pain either

>Your brain is using knee tendons
lmao what, this is the biggest load of broscience

I wonder what's pulling on those tendons...

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sure you are. Why lie on the internet? I'm 6'4 and all my friends on our shitty high school handegg team are 6'2+ and none of us can do high bar without major discomfort. Our coach actually showed us how to do Low Bar squat and for people with long legs its nice to load to the hips instead of loading the knees and quads.

So tell me your real hight, 5'6 right?

Is there even a reason to Squat?
If you have Chicken Legs naturally you are not a man

>actually squatting as a lanklet

lmao they never learn

if you have long limbs you're just going to fuck yourself up while getting subpar results for your quads and glutes

Start doing the stationary bike for 10 minutes as warm up. Not 3, not 5, do 10 minutes. My knees never hurt anymore on squats.

I'm 6'6" and squat high bar, took me a while doing mobility exercises to get to that point though

Been watching it but not seeing what's up yet, I think I'd need someone to watch to see what I'm not seeing (company gym at the office that nobody ever uses)

Honest question for an idiot. Whenever I start squatting above like 2plt, the bar starts slipping down to low bar position and it feels loose if I try and hold it high. Am I supposed to flex my traps or something or am I just supposed to use more effort to hold it up?

What shoes do you squat with?
Something that most people don't think about is when your ankles "collapses" in/outward so you get wonky force distributions through your shins/knees etc.

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Based

There was a post by Glenn pendlay a few years back on the old CrossFit forums that suggested the difference in muscle worked between Olympic HB and lowbar are not as different as most suspect. Can been found with a google search. Can't link as I'm on my phone.

Anyway I grew up squatting lowbar but went Olympic HB because I get reoccurring tendonitis in my right elbow and lowbar irritates the shit out of it. If you can lowbar, you probably should. But it doesn't matter that much outside of competition.

Ever tried Goblet Squats? I've been doing them as my main leg exercise for like the past month, 5 sets of 10. Still got up to >100 pound DB for sets of 10, though you need the core strength to hold it up, but that really helped my form a ton as it's easier to hit depth with goblet. Went from BB squats causing lower back pain and struggling to hit depth, to actually being able to do them again fine now, though it's only been 2 workouts. Used goblet for a few sets to warm up before, and it helps so much. Everything feels better.

Just some generic tennis shoes that sit flat when I lift.

Never heard of them, lol, but it looks like something I would like to add to my routine or at the very least switch out regular squats for a while with

It's just squatting with a DB in front of you held at chest level or higher. You won't do much weight because you are only using one DB, but it helps a ton. T Nation had a good article on Goblets. Trust me, stuff helps you hit depth and your form a ton, at least in my experience it did. Maybe I'm crazy or dumb, but after my experience, I'd recommend newbies and the like getting into squat to do those first for a little bit to get he form down better.

...what a fucking monster

>trusting a guy with knee pain on the subject of knee pain

When I do highbar squats, I end up looking like the picture on the right when coming back up
When I do lowbar squats, it looks like I'm doing a fucking good morning coming up

Highbar has always felt fucking disgustingly akward.
I can move 95% of the weight I move lowbar, highbar and atg but damn it feels fucking weird bro. i also get knee pain when I squat highbar.

wow I now regret writing out all the solutions that solved my chronic knee pain during squatting
what a bunch of cancerous retards you all are

Theres this website called reddit chap, you should try going there, itll suit you nicely.

cool now fuck off newfag

kill yourself

Do whichever allows you to reach your goals easiest and with the least pain. There's no correct way to squat, depends massively on your body's genetically determined structure, most notably hip/pelvis structure

Boast pody tryhards