Daily reminder that live stock accounts for 20-50% of all greenhouse gas emissions.
Daily reminder that meat production uses 50 times as much land as grain production and results in the Midwest being a faint monoculture that requires tons of pesticide and fertilizer to maintain and billions in FEMA money to rebuild when it floods constantly due to animal feed crops not absorbing water well
Daily reminder that if externalities were priced into meat it'd be $22 a pound.
Daily reminder that it's your shit routine, sedintary lifestyle, and inability to restrict calories that makes you look like shit, not the need for you to switch to a heavily meat diet.
>Literally destroying your national future because "it doesn't taste good," and because marketing tells you ordering a burger at a drive through is like being a masculine hunter
>It doesn't take more land to raise feed for animals, then to raise an animal
It take 50 times as much land per calorie to produce beef vs lentils. Similar times as much fertilizer (growing feed in a monoculture without crop rotation is retarded but we do it). Water use is also more intensive.
The need for refrigeration also increases energy use dramatically and spoilage increases waste.
Literally the only argument for all this loss is "muh taste."
No one on a "carnivore" diet can make fun of Boomers for profligacy. This shit will ruin us in the future.
Eating meat responsibly, a meal per week, maybe a bit less, is fine. Eating it for every meal degeneracy.
Jacob King
fuck you bro, we had like 2 or 3 volcanoes erupt THIS YEAR
how does it feel knowing that no matter how many statistics or facts you bring up it will never stop me from eating meat every single day for the rest of my life hahahaha
I have a shit routine, sedentary lifestyle, and don't restrict calories and I look great at 32 because my metabolism works properly
meanwhile every long term vegan I know looks like theyre one step away from being an anorexic vampire
Christian Stewart
>sedintary Shit bait
Colton Campbell
Actually POCs existing is way worse for the environment, especially with how many of them there are.
Daily reminder only white people ever cared about the environment at all
Austin Sanchez
Daily reminder that OP is always a fag
Asher Anderson
yeah , fuck fatt niggers !
Owen Young
I am going to not give a fuck about dindus and commies on the day of the rope. I am just going out to find as many fucking faggot vegans as I can and hang you all.
>protecting your land and soil is left wing and feminine >letting profligacy and gluttony destroy your land and ignoring ballooning risk is conservative
Then again I shouldn't be surprised. Jow Forums and the right in general have two shits about ballooning trillion dollars deficits as soon as they had the presidency
Why is there no party for functional adults who both want to protect our land from waves of migrants and enviornmental degredadation?
Dominic Wilson
Nigga who cares let bangladesh and the netherlands sink
James Lewis
When is the day of the rope? I need to know so I can stop telling people I'm vegan on that day.
Easton Walker
Yeah this. 95% of humanity needs wiping out, starting with no nonwhites and then moving onto the lazy/unintelligent.
Thomas Brooks
fpbp every single tims
Christopher Cook
Yes we're humans and we'll use all the possible resources we can until they are depleted and then we'll find other and do the same exact thing. There is no such thing as striving without someone or something suffering, be it the land we use or the underage chinese kid assembling our smartphones under horrible conditions. Then we'll conquer other planets and do the same exact thing, drain out Mars until it becomes a lifeless husk.
Jaxon Thomas
>unintelligent You'd really sacrifice yourself for this idea user?
Christopher Watson
>we'll conquer other planets and do the same exact thing We're gonna be dead and gone long before you think that's gonna happen.
Jayden Smith
>20-50% That's a pretty big fucking swing between those two numbers. Anyone got an accurate estimate?
Also I eat grassfed animals bitch
Blake Hernandez
Reminder: Vegans should be tortured daily.
Aaron Torres
Their very existence is tortured hence the need to recruit others into their self inflicted misery.
Nolan Adams
cry about it basedboyyy
Easton Sanders
I wish meat festivals were a thing.
Brody James
>posted on a device that uses rare earth materials from a mine that will likely have tailings pond issues at some point. >posted on a device that uses electricty, possibly nuclear, which has spread so many foreign isotopes into the atmosphere that, when combined with the lack of iodine in our diet, is causing record amounts of cancer >likely has no idea or can't comprehend that free range ranches and even grass finished cattle/chickens exist, and that people will pay a premium for them >bitches about 'muh greenhouse gasses' but ignores the caustic chemicals being dumped into the ocean that are causing much more damage than any temperature change could ever hope to achieve kys
You won't have to wait for that lol. Vegans are starving themselves to death right now today. Check out these vegans, some of the more robust healthier ones ever on YouTube.
Wow you sure owned that vegan with your le based dgaf attitude haha, welcome to the subreddit brother!!
Hunter Hall
Vegans torture themselves every day lol! It's their starvation/$elf hate lifestyle. Then they die a pathetic death in some jungle in Borneo or Thailand trying to live off tree bark and grubs.
Seriously they do literally move to Thailand, because they can no longer survive the European winters on their sickly plant DIEt
Tyler Davis
I believe the national socialist workers party is the one
Jacob Gutierrez
I'm sorry but you're going to have to cry more vegan. And if their isn't enough land, why are importing every fucking non white in the world into Europe, that you are going to have to feed???
It is obvious that liberals hate the earth, then they come here sobbing and moaning because I eat one fucking cow per year. Fuck you move to Haiti and eat dirt cookies
Brandon Jones
Has Jow Forums never actually encountered a vegan?
I've known a few.
One was a chick, and still kind of fat despite being a vegan and being super into running and triathlons. And not even just "oh I do a five k twice a year" but legit 30 mile races, and a few marathons a year. The fact that she could do all that, and still be a bit fat blew my mind.
On the same token, a girl I was friends with was vegan and later biked across the US with her BF, from Boston to Seattle. Also kind of fat, although on FB she looked skinny after the bike ride.
Then I knew a two guy vegans in college, who were admittedly kind of thin and soish.
But my wife's cousin married a black dude who has been vegan since his 20's, is 44, and still had a full six pack at the pool and decent mass.
The only remarkable thing about vegans is what a pain in the fucking ass it is to go out to restaurants with them it is.It's not like you're going to curl up and die because you stop milk and meat. This is the same kind of pussy logic as people who backpack for 5 days and think they're going to starve to death. The human body is pretty rugged, you'll be fine.
Blake Nguyen
>not being a mouth breathing moron makes you a leftist!
I'm not even a vegan, nor do I particularly give much of a shit about it because I'll be dead before global warming kicks off hard enough to affect me as an upper class American. Just stating actual facts.
I don't know what the migrant rant is about. How the fuck did pointing out that CO2 emissions are the main driver of ocean acidification make you think I have any particular preferences about migration?
Anyhow, if you want people to stop trying to migrate out of equatorial regions, trying to mitigate global warming is probably a top step to take lol.
Jordan Green
Just migrate to Haiti, then we won't have to hear your vegan bullshit after they eat you. It'll be a kosher meal but definitely not vegan.
Asher Barnes
daily reminder that op is forever going to be a sensitive boy and be in the same group as people who live off onions
Landon Cooper
>what a pain in the fucking ass it is to go out to restaurants with them it is Blame society, not them. Their intentions are good.
>It's not like you're going to curl up and die because you stop milk and meat You're right, but after much time without these in your diet, reintroducing them can cause issues (i.e. you become lactose-intolerant).
>pussy logic Nice.
Nathaniel Hernandez
And what are you going to do about it pussy fart? Suck a dick hippie scum.
Jaxson Sanders
>√egans intentions are good.
Are they? When you ask them if they support the massive use of pesticides for their unhealthy plant diet, they dodge deflect and parley the blame. I think all Vegans are liars who hate men and animals as well.
Jace Ortiz
That's no insult to a typical twink $oyboy.
Alexander Martin
>massive use Vegans use less plants because we don't feed 1000+ live stock. >unhealthy plant diet Yeah, they're not dodging and deflecting, they're subconsciously keeping it short and looking for an opportunity to ditch the retard who's talking to them.
Zachary Russell
*1000+lb
Eli Perry
thanks mr dick
Adrian Barnes
LMAO go eat ur fucking mangoes while I devour steak and bench 6000lbs
daily reminder that meat is great for you and you should enjoy it and feel like a morally superior person for doing so.
Luke Reyes
cows eat grass
Ethan Rodriguez
>Growing animal feed doesn't use pesticide
It's about 50 lbs of feed for one pound of beef, 15 for poultry.
What the fuck does eating vegan have to do with men versus women? Holy fuck, there really retards who actually buy into that "Arby's, 'we have the meats', muh deep voice', eating processed factory meats you neither slaughter nor shepard, but which was actually slaughtered by tiny Hispanic women for $8 an hour, is so masculine!" marketing?
Pathetic.
If meat wasn't heavily subsidized and had the externalities of flooding from land use, GHG emissions from methane farts priced into it, pesticide, fertilizer and herbicide externalities for growing feed priced into it, and if endless waves of migrant labor, legal and illegal were stopped, meat wouldn't be an issue. It'd cost $20-30 a pound and people would eat a reasonable amount.
As is, it uses a massive amount of migration labor to keep wages at Rock bottom, gets tons of government aid on the supply side and demand side (food stamps), and all there extra enviornmental costs are passed on to tax payers and people living in farms' water tables or in flood zones instead of the consumer. It's an economists nightmare.
Cameron Cook
Cows mostly eat feed.
Hudson Gomez
reminder that vegan shills are on the payroll of big-agro notice how hard they've been pushing since the Chinese tariffs on basedbeans? all these megacorp agro businesses are reeling and need to unload all this garbage on someone.
also reminder that the issue isn;t the number of lifestock but how they are kept. historically the number of wild ungulates/large mammals was far higher. if cows were allowed to range over the grasslands then their impact would become a massive net gain for the environment.
>According to the USDA, NASS (National Ag Statistics Sevices) there were 30,086,000 beef cows and 9,085,000 dairy cows in the United States on Jan 1, 2011.
This versus 30-40 million Buffalo seems equal at first but totally missed the resource intensity of:
1. Continually slaughtering the stock and then raising new borns as quickly as possible versus animals living in a natural life cycle.
2. Shipping slaughtered animals largely from the interior of the country to the coasts over more than 1,000 miles.
3. Refrigeration from slaughter to purchase.
4. The growth of another large mammal population, humans, from 10-50 million in the Americas circa 1450 versus over one billion today.
5. The fact that you need to use land for agriculture to feed the 320 million Americans, thus severely reducing natural pasture land. For example, less than 1% of Iowa today is natural prairie.
Blake Gomez
Hey veganfags, stop equating animals to humans. Fix your goddamn moral priorities.
Wyatt Campbell
Daily reminder that lab grown meat exists now and within twenty years will be fit for human consumption and put into mass production. Which means, since they're no longer needed, we can finally cull 95% of all livestock! We'll have a worldwide mass slaughter and the grain fields will fill with red blood. Thanks for helping, vegans! first post based post
Levi Gutierrez
all this says to me is we need more efficient shipping/infrastructure and better alternate fuel and you still need to ship grains as well
Liam Watson
>Daily reminder that live stock accounts for 20-50% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Stopped reading
Animals take up 19% of all emissions
Fuck off
Zachary King
90% of onions meal produced globally is used in livestock feed.
The tarrifs only hit a marginal part of the basedbean market dealing with onions grown for human consumption and oil. While relatively quite small compared to animal feed, it's large enough to shift profit margins heavily.
Still, the American meat consumer is the number one source for America onions.
Ironic that you eat an animal raised on onions, if processed, likely processed with onions based oils, and then worry about onions so much right?
>Sheep grazing in New Zealand natural pasturing >Chemical pesticides
Adrian Green
That livestock would already be killed though, for meat, so who cares.
Caleb Hughes
>Naturally pasturing grass fed sheep in New Zealand requires chemical pesticides.
Behold the retardation of the average vegan. While he's clear cutting old forests for his soya, HFCS, and palm oil addiction, he deflects his earth destroying pathology on natural men and women.
Alexander White
>Vegans use less plants because we don't feed 1000+ live stock. if all humans were vegan they would just eat that same foodstuff instead of the cows
Is this how you cope with the fact that you are destroying the earth with clear-cutting and chemical pesticides to support your massive soya, palm oil and corn farms?? All of which are not even human food?
Luis Nelson
The reason it varies from 20-50% is because you have multiple ways to calculate it.
If you just look at tonnage from agriculture and subtract CO2 captured by agriculture, you end up below 20% with some fuzzy math.
You can also inflate to 50%.
First, methane is a far more potent GHG than CO2, so if your concern is the GHG effect, you need to weigh methane on its relative effects, not based on weight. Obviously agriculture has an incentive to just do all GHG in tons rather than accounting for this.
Second, is the transportation and refrigeration of livestock part of the agriculture, transportation, or retail industry. Shifting this changes things.
Is the production of fertilizer and pesticides industrial or agricultural?
This is how you end up with wide bands. None of this means that a significant reduction in subsidies for meat to reduce it's price below its real cost (including externalities) wouldn't drastically reduce demand, and thus reduce GHG emissions and land under cultivation radically.
Complicating matters in the US, the prairie states have multiple times as many senators per voter as the coasts and South. So while the gains primarily go towards the prairie, the costs accrue to litoral areas (due to flooding) and Southern farmers (due to poor climate). You're actually starting to see a split with Southern and Western farmers because high temps tires and drought are fucking yields and raising costs, while models show the prairie potentially getting an actual boost from modest warming.
Landon Diaz
Implying those two examples aren't a small fraction of the market.
Kayden Howard
90% of onions meal is used for animal feed. Literally nothing to do with vegan consumption.
Easton Smith
Vegans want to exterminate cows chickens and sheep off the face of the earth, not the same kind of "killing" the meat and lamb industry practices. Ie ranchers carefully propagate cattle and sheep continuing the animals in existence.
Then ((( they))) will plow over the last pristine pastureland for more retarded horse feed like corn and soya. The horses will all be gone though.
Vegans want to destroy the earth while pretending moral virtue and attacking natural humans who eat meat
Jose Hernandez
>Humans would eat just as much grain as cows if they stopped eating meat.
Peak brainletism. Is the conversion of feed to meat 100% efficent? No, it's about 2% for beef.
This is like thinking that if you weigh 150lbs you've only eaten 150 pounds of food in your life.
Ryan Powell
>tfw you will never eat Woolly Mammoth meat cooked over an open fire
I bet all of them look really ugly with wrinkly skin, sunken eyes and hollow cheeks
Juan Butler
reminder that vegans don't even live longer than meat eaters but people who eat organ meat and fermented dairy (and pickled food) regularly have high numbers of centenarians
Julian Russell
Thanks bro. I never even tell vegans how sickly and unhealthy their diet is IRL, I want them all to self starve and die off (because veganism is a left wing antifa organization) I only redpillingg here to save my right wing bros from this suicidal cult.
Thats only true in the retarded land of USA, normal countries raise beef on pastures and feed them mostly grass
Jose Moore
Okay, so we sterilize the niggers, dune coons, abos, kikes, poos, ladyboys, goblinos, Moor rapebabies, and Chinese and have a nice Japanese-European earth with Mongolian and Korean dudes to do the grunt work and pygmies for clowns, what's the problem?
It would be environmental as fuark
Xavier Martinez
based
James Flores
reminder that vegans can eat shitty processed foods too and all blue zones are nearly completely plant based
Joshua Baker
Ironically it's the same demented leftists (vegans) who scream about saving the earth, who also insist we use our sacred wilderness for fucking feeding all off Africa, giving all blacks and immigrants free food and their illegal children get free food at school.
Leftists are a disease hell bent on destroying the earth as fast as humanly possible, all the while pretending to care about the environment
Joseph Garcia
>plant based all of them eat lots of fish, lots of cured meat, lots of dairy or fermented food
Ethan Morgan
>blue zones are nearly completely plant based That "nearly" is pretty damn wide, isn't it? No population has ever lived/survived their whole life on a completely strict plant based diet in history. Not one.
John Brown
Daily reminder that if we gassed china, Indonesia, india and Pakistan 15 we wouldn't have any environmental problems any more
Henry Cooper
That's not realistic. Stopping the profligate waste and destruction of our environment to feed Africa, and grow the boondoggle ethanol garbage might be realistic.
More great news in the glorious crusade to kill all vegans-- now ISIS is on our side
>Daily reminder that live stock accounts for 20-50% of all greenhouse gas emissions. >Daily reminder that meat production uses 50 times as much land as grain production and results in the Midwest being a faint monoculture that requires tons of pesticide and fertilizer to maintain and billions in FEMA money to rebuild when it floods constantly due to animal feed crops not absorbing water well >Daily reminder that it's your shit routine, sedintary lifestyle, and inability to restrict calories that makes you look like shit, not the need for you to switch to a heavily meat diet. >Literally destroying your national future because "it doesn't taste good," and because marketing tells you ordering a burger at a drive through is like being a masculine hunter
You're right, all animals should roam free and every person should hunt for whatever animal they want within hunting season time limits instead of what we have now.
