VEGAN GENERAL

>b-b-but what can I even eat on a vegan diet

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Thread for all vegans and people interested in the vegan lifestyle.

Veganism is the healthiest, cheapest, environmental friendliest and the only morally acceptable diet.

Vegans have on average have a higher IQ, better bodies, lower BF%, stronger hearts, healthier and longer lives.

Vegetarians allowed as long as they won't push their morally acceptable diet.

Meat eaters allowed as long as they remain civil.

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How can we convince animals to stop eating the flesh of other animals. Don't they know that it is cruel?!?

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meme argument

Humans do not need meat or milk, we are literally born to be vegan.

There is a reason why meat eaters have the highest disease rates among all humans.

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>born to be vegan
>humans have evolved over the last 100,00 years to be omnivore

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You are wrong and you know it.

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Would be interested to what my fellow vegans eat.
I eat a whole food plant based diet but I'm getting tired of eating the same, looking for some new recipe to try out.

>any argument I don't like is a meme

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Stop eating plants that aren't native to your home region.

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this is largely due to pasteurizing dairy. You kill off crucial enzymes that are required to digest it properly.

We evolved to eat meat and veg. Milk isn't what we evolved to consume so you're correct on that front.

stop making redneck arguments.

So if in European, veganism isn't meant for me?

Have you tried pic related?

>any meme argument is a meme argument
fixed that for you

Of course, over 50% of all of humanity is literally unable to properly digest milk but humans are still "evolved" to drink milk, right? Don't play dumb.

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wow that looks like a fun recipe, gonna try it out.

posting in a troll thread

hi faggots!

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>5 eggs, 100g bacon
Nice reasonable portion sizes. Totally not overblown to drive your meme agenda.

I never said humans evolved to drink milk dumb shit. We evolved eating meat and dairy is still a relatively new thing for us. Most people have an intolerance to dairy because they only try pasteurized dairy products and that isn't how it is intended to be consumed.

Raw or bust.

Approximately 2 million species of animal on earth yet plantfags want to eat plants

why cant you just leave them vegans alone?
There are 300 threads about fast and keto every fucking day.
On top of that there is an retard making 5 carni threads everyday about how he would like to suck sv3rige cock.

One fucking vegan thread is not gonna destroy your existence.
You all people talk about how annoying vegans are but here you are with other retards doing the same shit you so much have.
fucking idiot.

Oh look, a kilogram of sugar, bunch of anti nutrients and undigestable fiber. None of these plants would exist in nature and are totally man made. Some of them are even unable to reproduce on their own. Completely unnatural and unfir for human consumption hehe. I mean seriously, only a brainwashed slave would eat any of this.

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>One fucking vegan thread
They post at least 5 a day too, faggot

Approximately 500 million species of plants on earth, yet meatfags want to eat meat.

if you would only eat the shit that exist in nature, you would be dead within a week.

rotfl

But according to the OP only 70000 are edible. Checkmate, vegcuck

Thank you. Meatcucks seriously need to fuck off. We need a vegan safe space. There should be a new rule to let vegan threads be vegan threads and instaban everyone who talks bad about it.

Some animals need to be killed if you want to have a functioning human society. Why would you eat plants when you can eat the most delicious, calorie and nutrient dense food in the world (meat).

If you are dumb, sure.

Well that is just plain wrong.

Plants dont want to be killed either.
youtu.be/sQRGLSw6RnY

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Vegans are one of the most delusional two-faced mentally ill people you could encounter.
Fighting till death against the horrible conditions of chickens while at the same time pretending like the horrible conditions of underage underfed preteen little kids who make their shirts and assemble their iphones don't exist at all. Pretending like mass market vegetable growing is "natural" and "organic", acting like Pedro gives a single fuck about veganism and isn't killing and spraying thousands of insects, rodents and birds that get near his crops. Or that your precious avocado wasn't the product of mexican cartels extorting hundreds of mexican families. Applying their arguments only for one side, for example all the fuckload of ex vegans who stopped being vegan their strong argument is that's because "they didn't do it properly", but they don't apply the same "eat properly" argument when talking about meat eaters and will frequently sell studies about obese amerilards eating nothing but pizza, ice cream and soda as standard meat eaters and yell CANCER HEART DISEASE YOU'LL DIE yeah no shit if you're shoving processed meats and sugar on the daily.

In short, champions of never ending confirmation bias mental gymnastics

>we need a safe space!
>starts thread with a bait image

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you may not like it but thats how it is.
sure it will take you some months until you die of starvation
but until that you will die of piss water, get some parasyte and kill yourself.

If we would still be living in nature and eat nothing but nature than your life span would be around 30 years old.
good luck with that but I will eat high glucose banana while getting my cock sucked by a cute bathing hot water.

Why is it always the one that are objectively wrong who need safe space?
How come I have never witnessed this high IQ of vegans anywhere? Everything posted in this thread supporting veganism appeals to emotion only. Oh you are sad that the fluffy little animals get killed for fun on a daily basis? Do you know what other animal is killed for fun for no good reason on a daily basis? Humans.
And I don't see you shouting for human rights.
You people don't even love animals, you just hate humanity so much that you want everyone to have a slow and painful death trough the torture of veganism.

This is one of the campest jews I've ever seen

people lived to 60 and beyond 100000 years ago
go away

APOLOGIZE

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>Fighting till death against the horrible conditions of chickens while at the same time pretending like the horrible conditions of underage underfed preteen little kids who make their shirts and assemble their iphones don't exist at all.
Its hard to find a single ethical vegan that doesnt talk about this, you clearly dont know shit about the vegan community.
>Pretending like mass market vegetable growing is "natural" and "organic"
no one is saying that, just that vegetables and fruits are less processed than anything else.
>acting like Pedro gives a single fuck about veganism and isn't killing and spraying thousands of insects, rodents and birds that get near his crops
exactly the same happens to the crops fed to livestock, whats your point lol? the amouth of dead insects is not nearly as much as you think, same goes for other rodents or birds. Look up any fucking statistics you retard.
>Or that your precious avocado wasn't the product of mexican cartels extorting hundreds of mexican families
so now only vegans eat avocados? cmon little kid, you are dumb

you are sad.

no, lol
haha

500 million? This is proof that vegans will lie and pull facts out of their ass, because there are only 391000 species of plant on earth.

Stop eating animals that aren't native to your region and natural

The tribe that Aajonus Vonderplanitz met lived to 150 years on average eating mostly fish with fruit once a week

Depends on the definition of human...

lmao I love these images so much as if this would somehow convert anyone to veganism

Im not some lactose intolerant Ethiopian you dumbass
>This guy one hundred thousand miles away from you proves you shouldn't eat what he doesn't

>Veganism is the healthiest, cheapest, environmental friendliest and the only morally acceptable diet.
Except that's literally all lies, but neat idea anyway.

>Its hard to find a single ethical vegan that doesnt talk about this, you clearly dont know shit about the vegan community.
Most of the vegan community is borderline antihuman and what's the point of "talking about it" if you don't practice it?
Sure I can talk about bad factory farming of animals too, isn't it retarded if I go buy meat at Walmart the next second?
>vegetables and fruits are less processed
As long as the actual fruit has not been made in a factory, it's not processed. Who cares about the genetic mutation of seeds am i rite
>exactly the same happens to the crops fed to livestock, whats your point lol
That labels like """cruelty free""" are absolutely ignorant vegan horseshit, no such thing as cruelty free mass market agriculture
>so now only vegans eat avocados?
No, but the others don't pretend like avocados are some innocent """cruelty free""" alternative

Fix your goddamn moral priorities.

Man, that looks like it hurts like hell. I usually get turned on by the bleating of a cervine animal in pain, but this is a whole new level. Feel pretty bad for the deer desu. Still happy for those komodos tho, looks like they're having fun.

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>over 50% of all of humanity is literally unable to properly digest milk
niggers and gooks are not fully human, so they don't count, you shill

>Jow Forumsvegans

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Oh these threads are always fun to watch.

We also evolved to be able build weapons which places us on the top of the food chain.

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>posts picture of teeth, not realising all the visible human teeth on the top row are cutting teeth
Into trash it goes

That last part there paints a truly serene picture.

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No population or civilization in history has ever strived/survived their whole life on a completely strict plant based diet, not one.
So why would I volunteer to be a guinea pig for this experimental new age meme "diet" gimmick where there's barely anyone who lived an entire decade on that diet, let alone their whole life.

That picture makes me emotionally proud to be a meat-eating human.

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This. I'm getting better at my macros, but my carbs are always too fucking high.

Do you eat honey, or not? What is your ethical justification for your answer? Genuinely curious.

I eat honey. Like it or not, eating honey and supporting the industry is the only way (for now) to really prevent the extinction of bees.

>fighting till death against to horrible conditions of chickens
Nah, I just choose not to eat them, It's not like I'm busting my ass off to save them
>Pretending like mass market vegetable growing is "natural" and "organic"
No vegans claim mass agricultural is natural. I don't even buy organic produce 90% of the time
>studies...
Yeah vegans are more health conscious. The fact that they're healthier is enough to justify the diet over a SAD. Doesn't really matter if it's the most optimal diet because vegans are still the most health conscious, so veganism evidently leads to healthier life choices overall

Non-vegan beekeeper here. You are better off eating honey than you are not eating honey but supporting crops that use bees for pollination.

Take something like blueberries. To pollinate such large fields in a short couple week time-frame that they are blooming, you need to bring in truck loads and truck loads of bees. This is super unnatural and basically a very large portion of your colonies die in the process. Those that don't die get very agitated and become aggressive, comparable to a dog that has come from an abusive home.

Then just look at regular beekeepers that only do honey. They lose money if their colony dies so they never take more honey than the colony needs to survive. It is super non-intrusive and the bees don't even know/care. That and they are provided with medication, shelter from nature, and protection against wild animals.

Vegans that don't eat honey for ethical reasons drive me insane unless they are literally living on a hippy commune and growing all their own crops.

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>Ingredients: 5 eggs, 100g bacon, 2 tbsp butter
>5 eggs
>5
>eggs

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>human being kills a lobster in a single quick swift manner
>"omggg how can you possibly do such a thing, no animal should ever be treated like that!"
>two komodo dragons basically play tug of war with a live young deer for half an hour feasting on it until they slowly bust out every internal organ she has with the deer still yelling out
>"ahhh nature's ways are so beautiful and mysterious"

>my carbs are always too fucking high
You're a fucking vegan, what the fuck were you expecting? High protein low carb? This is your brain on veganism kids.

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Animals don't have the capacity to reason like we do. A Komodo dragon can't think "this deer deserves to live, I should eat plant foods instead", not to mention it's probably impossible for them to do so.

I respect the circle of life but humans have mastered it and we have the ability to thrive on plants without killing animals and eating them. If another species was also as intelligent for that kind of reasoning, and their physiology allowed to them to thrive on plants, I'd say you had an argument. Otherwise there's nothing we can do except let nature be.

>we have the ability to thrive on plants

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>be vegan
>claim our teeth are for eating plants
>half of your caloritic intake is blended smoothies

Hundreds of millions of people do already

>thrive
I don't think you know what that word means user-tan

Also if someone is not aware, Komodo dragons release a sort of half-paralysing venom (probably happened before the video starts) while biting so that deer is not only being ripped apart alive, she is dying on the inside with all kinds of internal bleeding and blood loss, although both of those things happen literally afterwards when the komodos start feasting on the deer's insides.
Have a good day.

>Hundreds of millions of people do already
I'll just redirect you to this post

Yeah. Think about it. What local food that isn't meat are you going to eat in winter?

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Here are 10 nutrientsthat you may need to supplement with while on a vegan diet.
Vitamin B12
Vitamin A
Vitamin D
Long-ChainOmega-3s
Iodine
Iron
Calcium
Zinc
Carnitine
Creatine

You realize that monkeys also eat meat right?

I highly doubt there are more than a few million vegans, it's a western trend

I dont think humans hunt with their teeth desu

Also doesn't even list carbohydrate amounts.

>skitskins can't drink milk
They aren't humans anyway.

>whataboutism
>vegans appeal to emotion only, unlike meat eaters whose literal only argument is that it tastes good and eating it makes me happy
>why aren't the vegans talking about human rights on a fitness board?

argentina is white

B12 is the only one on that list you need to supplement (except D in winter, everyone should do that anyway) and even so, most people with B12 deficiency are meat eaters

Plenty of Buddhists and others religious sects in South East Asia eat a vegan diet, 2% of Americans at least are vegan. But maybe it's more like 10s of millions

Try tofu, tempeh, seitan, textured vegetable protein, and vegan meat substitutes. They tend to be lower in carbs.

>veganism is natural
>live in a place that has 4-5 months of no plants growing

>most people with B12 deficiency are meat eaters
Yes, because most people don't know how to eat properly. You don't need any B12 supplements if you eat proper meat, especaily meats like liver.
>Plenty of Buddhists and others religious sects in South East Asia eat a vegan diet
vegetarian*
>2% of Americans at least are vegan
For a few years max

>B12 is the only one on that list you need to supplement
Wrong. Vitamin A (retinol) is not found in plants, beta caratines are precursors that are hardly absorbed. Creatine is not found in plants. Carnitine is not found in plants, hence the name. The others can be found in plants but only in small quantities and most if not all vegans are deficient.

I say if vegans want to malnourish and slowly kill themselves then more power to them! I'll eat my nuggies and they can eat their broccoli.

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>Prep time: 1 hour
>Bacon 30 min
>Eggs 20 min
>10 minutes to rest
It literally takes 10 minutes to cook this shit and after 10 minutes its gonna be goddamn cold im pissed off

Living in northern climates isn't natural

Aminosyror

>w-we're all tropical animals
Another shitty vegan lie. Look at Australia, a nation of mainly anglos in a subtropical, tropical climate. Skin cancer is through the roof there. Different races are adapted to different climates.

>slows down heart rate
That's supposed to be bad?

Speak for yourself.

anglos were never supposed to go there

Being a wh*toid isn't natural either

>Prep time: 1 hour

It does not take nearly that long to make bacon and eggs. You can do that all 20 minutes easily. Probably even less time.

David Duke told me to eat meat...

You’re not smarter than Dr. Duke are you?

Jesus fucking Christ, the amount of misinformation here is mind-blowing. Came to this thread expecting actual easy to cook meals because i kind of agree with vegans, but after seeing this dishonest shit i think you should fucking kill yourself.
>5 eggs
>1h prep time
???

And that vegan meal, what the fuck is that recipe. Theres no way it would take 20 mins to prepare that weird mess.

But you said living in cold climates is unnatural, they migrated to a warm climate where natural vegan humans live, right?
Lol

Mmm nightshade poison! Also wtf is a vegan """egg"""

>eggs and bacon cook time 1 hour

wtf is up with vegan propaghandi?

lolz

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