/fast/ - #256 - Eternal Sunshine Edition

Sneak a couple slices up to your room
>Oh user he just loves snackin on pizza while he watches that anime
But later wrap em up in aluminum foil and stick em in the freezer. You can put them in the oven for a few minutes on a refeed day.

SORRY MY CAPS LOCK KEY AND ALSO ALL OF MY SHIFT KEYS ARE BROKEN

>POTASSIUM CHLORIDE
NoSalt or SaltFree

>MAGNESIUM SULPHATE
idk you don't need to put this in your snek juice

also quit typing in all caps like an autistic retard or I'm not going to help you anymore.

Is water fasting for fatties only? I'm about to start my cut but I'm afraid of losing too many gainz. I only plan on going down to 10-12%; anybody have testimonials?

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Holy fuck, how do you know about it, but not catch the ingredients? Just google "magnesium sulphate walmart" and save us from your stupid questions you clown.

thx sorry it took so long to reply i had to copy and paste letters from other posts
WALMART.COM DOESN'T TELL YOU WHERE SHIT IS LIKE KROGER DOES
TURNS OUT KROGER HAS A BRAND SO I'LL JUST GO THERE

THANKS ANONS

I'm pretty sure the only reason why the stigma exists is because your body's pretty good at holding on to water weight while fasting as a survival thing. You'll still be burning fat just fine, maybe less than someone on a dry fast but I haven't seen anyone do any experiments.
Your gainz should be fine as long as you're doing light workouts while you fast

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Cole recomends preparing for a dry fast drinking water with baking soda to alkanize your kidneys or some shis
Is this bro science? Can someone elaborate on this?

lol wtf is your caps lock broken or something?

phlabs.com/so-whats-in-an-iv-anyway
>What’s in an IV?
>Salt.The most commonly used fluid is normal saline. This is a salt solution of purified water. You can’t have plain water going into your veins. All the existing salt in your body, which you need, would rush out of cells and tissues where it is needed — not a good thing! Normal saline approximates the ratio of salt to water that exists naturally in the human body.
Obviously in snake juice
>Sugar. Sometimes the doctor will choose a dextrose, or sugar solution, that also contains salt. If you see “D5” written on the bag, that means sugar. These fluids are OK for people who do not have diabetes and who are not terribly dehydrated. If you have a bad infection, the doctor might not want to use D5, in order to keep your blood sugars well controlled to discourage the infection.
Sugar is not necessary and is not included in snake juice
>Electrolytes. Some fluids may contain these minerals. One particular solution, for example, combines saline with bicarbonate, sugar and potassium. This is one of the preferred fluids for surgeries, likely because surgery can alter your electrolyte and acid-base balance.
Electrolytes are unnecessary when the purpose of fasting is to generate energy from your fat deposits and it not reflected in snake juice. Potassium is however present.
>Vitamins. If you have a bright yellow bag hanging above your bed, it may mean you’ve been drinking too much. “Banana bags” contain multivitamins as well as fluids intended to replace the vitamin loss that drinking alcohol causes.
Again not necessary when fasting
So basically Snake Juice is sort of like a DIY IV solution with added magnesium. IVs can be the only shit people have going through their bodies for weeks without eating a goddamn thing. People can lose fat like madmen in the hospital- sure they lose muscle too but that's because they don't have the privilege of getting in some light exercise.
TL;DR Snek Jooce Safe Jooce

Between 18:6 and regular snake piss fasting, I busted myself from 235 lbs down to 204. Didn't take any 235 pics. Currently at the beginning of day 4 of my current fast. From my perspective, my chunky self looks about exactly the same. I can see that most of my pants are way looser, and I've been getting told I look thinner, but I am not even close to satisfied. Decent progress, but a long fucking way to go.

Nice. Keep it up man.

I don't think that I can make the drive home today without stopping for a chicken caesar salad. I've been craving one for hours.

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Question. Which one's better to optimize fat burning, black coffee or unsweetened green tea?

Dry fasting, not snake juice fasting

Honestly as a fatty whos done it, theres not much difference between a 14 day fast and a 40+ fast.

I would post the desuarchive posts of my time doing it back in october 2017 but it seems to be down, the saddest part is that I only really took face photos during the fast to send to my brother who wanted to see how i changed over the 43 days since I never intended to go that long, I just took it week by week, past the 22-23 day mark, you pretty much feel the same throughout the fast except you feel a tiny bit weaker every day

I only stopped because I started getting pain in my gall bladder (Holy fuck you do not want gallstones) and was getting lightheaded even with supplements constantly.

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Either or neither. I cut caffeine. Pretty sure the withdrawal hit me like a motherfucker, but I'm also pretty sure it's the reason I'm getting decent sleep on this extended fast.

I don't really have a problem sleeping during a fast, I fall asleep quite easily even when drinking 3 cups of green tea per day, but I was wondering if black coffee wouldn't be better in terms of fat burning. Also mostly because I've been constipated for days and I really, really need to shit

Theoretically, whichever has more caffeine could cause you to jitter some extra calories off. If you spent the time it took you to make coffee to do some light exercise, you would probably have more calories burned than drinking caffeine all day.

I don't drink caffeine all day though, three/two cups of green tea seem reasonable enough, especially considering it literally takes me 4 minutes to make. I also walk everyday to my uni's library and hole myself up in there studying all day, then walk all the way back home again, so caffeine helps me keep focus.
>theoretically, whichever has more caffeine could cause you to jitter some extra calories off
Alright, so coffee it is, then. Thanks, maybe I'll even get to shit, finally

Hey everyone, been a very long time since I came to Jow Forums and I believe back then we did not have these fast generals, which are a great adition.

I have been away from the gym for over a year, recovering from some problems, in the next few months I might be able to return but I have a few questions if anyone can answer me.

I started doing IF around June, first it was 16:8 now it's 18:6. Been losing quite some fat, still retaining most if not all of my muscle mass.

My doubt is, when I return to the gym, is it good for me to train while fasted right before breaaking the fast? For example, I train at 11 so that at 12 I will eat my first meal and it would work as my post-workout. Would this impact negatively on my muscle mass?

TL;DR: Can I make gains while training fasted and eating first meal right after workout?

Huge kudos to you and your brother!
I've been reading this book and it's life changing. Really understanding how everything works is what makes us change mindset. I've lost 16.5 lbs in 6 weeks with barely any effort, because it rewired my brain. I have no envy to eat processed foods & sugar anymore, I'm actually disgusted when I cross the area of that shit in the supermarket, I stopped eating between meals, I hydrate myself, I sleep longer and better, I cook all my meals based on whole foods. The book talks about fasting too, and I kinda want to try it but I'm still a bit scared to fuck something up.

To everyone. If you don't have this book, BUY IT NOW.

This is the movie I watched with my online friend. I missed her so much, for such a short time I got deeply attached to her.

Shitting might be your biggest and only benefit, unless it ends up just making your constipation more painful. The calories caffeine help you lose are negligible.

>fasting
>scared
Of putting food in your mouth ?

Anyway, how the fuck do you cunts sleep with no food in your stomach cause I sure as hell can't.

we're not like you, and you're the cunt here. you can start as low as 16 hours fasting.

First 48 is the worst. I kept myself busy on those days and got up way early. Managed to get some sleep. The more you go, the less hunger hits you. I feel hunger like once or twice a day, and it lasts only for a couple minutes now.

>unless it ends up just making your constipation more painful
Fuck me, you're saying I could end up being even MORE constipated? I don't get how people here complain about shitting left and right during a fast, god I hate this

I'm not having much shitting problem, but I'm on nothing but water with NoSalt, himilayan pink salt, and baking soda. Mileage may vary I guess.

im on day 4 of this thing but im scared of coming off it. how do you go back onto food though?

anyone?

yes, fasting raises GH, combined with MTOR stimulation from a workout you will be primed for nutrient absorption.

what's GH and MTOR?

Growth Hormone and Mammalian Target of Rampamycin (stimulates muscle protein synthesis)

Nice, so I will both burn fat from the workout and be able to produce muscle afterwards. thanks!

How do you feel about strength? Has training at a fasted state decreased your performance?

not much, excercise stimulus is the primary driver of growth, with enough stimulus you need even less protein than you would think.

Lifts sometimes go down, but the important part is to get the muscles active and stressed

Nice, cant wait to go back into the gym, right now with IF I have been losing more fat, while doing not much exercise than when I went to the gym 6 times a week and at every 3 hours.

FUCK sorry
It's not sustainable for longer than like a week cause it turns out that water's vital for survival but yeah that should be fine
The baking soda won't kill you, anyway

i miss grandpa omaw

Lol thank you I guess, yeah I won't do longer than 72 h anyways, I also get thirsty as fuckkkk

what's with this keto and pancreatitis?

Its alright m8
I train even better at mornings, before breakfast. Even the performance is better, try it

>i miss grandpa omaw
fuck off. youve been told repeatedly he aint coming back. want to fag with grandpa? fuck off over to discord

https:// discord .gg / EDNBms

Nice! Back before I had a food scale I used to eat over half a kg of food one hour before hitting the gym, always felt sluggish. Then I got a scale and started eating only about 200g of food and felt much better.

I'm guessing without any food on your belly your body is solely focused on sending energy to your muscles and not to digestion?

NEVER eat before trainning, your performance WILL go down

Of course trainning fasted is notably better than that

How can I describe why I fast so my mom will stop asking me if I ate but in a dumb enough way so she doesn't get into it (I want her to die soon)

I think about tellin her plato used to do it or that is our natural way to eat, wich are true but she won't get into it just listening to that

>trying to use reason on a woman
youre failing bro

mind her own fucking business, and man up pussy

With dumb people you use dumb logic to make them to change their opinions or nehaviours
And I'm a woman kek
She just continues cooking even when there are leftovers, seems like a defense mechanism for her boring life or something. I think she wants to bond with me giving me dark chocolate too and I got tired of that now

I tried making green tea with Snake Juice instead of water
The tea bag tasted like ass, just a bunch of fuckin salt, but the tea itself tastes okay
Not as good as regular tea because the sodium flavor takes up a lot of the taste, but it's at least a little tastier than the default juice.
Still, I don't think I'll make any more green tea. Maybe lemon tea would taste better since people actually eat that with salt.
For reference I used 2 cups of microwaved Snake Juice and 1 Kroger generic tea bag of decaffeinated green tea

I used to think I would pass out if I did not eat before the gym, thanks for the tip!

Why yould you want your mom to die?

is it okay to go straight into a seven day fast or should you practice with ones and threes?

Do intermittent fasting for like 3 days after telling her you're going to do keto. She's probably heard of it and that's really the point of fasting- to enter ketosis
Then after that go on about
>ohhh this keto diet is sooo good I don't even feel like eating I'm so full of energy
>yes mommy of course I'll take a multivitamin for your sake! :))))
And then just eat every other day or every 2 days or something
could work could not idk

depends on your mental strength. I when OMAD for like 2 weeks then I am now 4 days into an 8 day fast. DESU not as hard as I thought it was going to be but I am in the mindset that I am going to see this through.

I'm curious if PSMF is better or prolonged water fasts. I'm on AAS, so I shouldn't have too much to worry about lean body massage but I'm interested in what research or anecdotes are out there.

So she stops being irritating and I get her beach house and rent money
Nah we're latinas and I didn't hear of keto on mainstream media here. She will just jump up to "it will hurt your kidneys/liver/vagina/whatever"
I can ignore her but she will be irritating if she worries
I could fake depression idk, or tell her I'm just not hungry wich I doubt will help

just ignore her femanon

>finally decide to start fasting
> do 3 day water fast
> continue with 20:4 scheme after
> been around 2 weeks

Somehow, I never feel hungry anymore (I used to be hungry all the time before, but now I can not eat 24h easy i I choose to) and I'm constantly burping and swallowing air 24/7. Is this normal?

Also, I take a lot of l-theanine during fasting (green tea + supplement). Since it triggers no insulin response, I can continue using that ?

>woman
>latina
>wants mom to die for greedy reasons

All checks out.

Just ate 6 cream crackers with cheese and herbs and another 4 with peanut butter mmm yes I love this OMAD meal

yeah it's too fucking true. knew a calicunt who hated her mom and was fatherless (obviously) and destitute for the most part and fancied a reed thin drug dealer, checked her out on fb recently and she's pigmode goth who draws odd shit and cosplays, sheesh.

The devil's trips confirm truth: Latinas are goblins

Half for the money and half because she's a fucked up individual desu baka senpai

>Went shopping for groceries today
>Didn't have any cravings
>Until I passed the rotisserie chickens
I'm glad I didn't end up eating anything on the way home, but... pic related

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Typical, I am from a latin-american country and I can only imagine that the latinas in the USA tend to be the worst, since they are descended from the the trash that migrates to the US.
Apple does not fall far from the tree it seems. But hey, maybe you trully have very good reasons to want it, but as a piece of advice, don't say it to anyone, they will only think bad of you if you do.

Never heard of the burping and air, if it doesn't stop for a while you might want to mix something up with what you're doing.
If your supplement doesn't trigger insulin, it's fine. I'm skeptical about if that's the thing causing your burping, though.

How is she fucked up? She must be a truly horrible person if her own daughter wants her dead

Fuck, I'm on hour 98 of my fast and haven't had any snake juice. Is that why I feel like I have a lack of energy? I know I've been getting plenty of water...
I've been drinking diet Coke so I figured it had enough sodium. Do I need to go get some juice do I don't fucking die?

I'm thinking of doing an eating challenge to do a refeed in a week. How far ahead of time should I break fast so I don't vomit?

Does anyone have the calculator where you input height, weight and number of calories you eat per day to calculate weight loss?

>Eternal Sunshine Edition

youtube.com/watch?v=4Ub2NCdOcik

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>I've been drinking diet Coke

personally diet soda makes me feel like I wanna die, energy-wise

Just finished a 5 day water/coffee only fast. Lost 4.5 kg and feel full of energy. Thanks for keeping me going bros was really surprised with my willpower. We all have it in us lads.

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But... Caffeine...

Look it's either that or black coffee. I drink one cup of black coffee in the morning and it's literally the worst thing I've ever had, sweeteners don't even work. I need to have coffee with milk or creamer and I can't do that on a fast so I default to diet Coke. Sure, it makes me feel hungry after but I can will myself through it.

Absolutely legit. Repeat that cycle a few more times, accounting for the water weight, and you'll have reached your goal weight in no time! I too lost 2 full kilos since last week on my OMAD routine.

Emotionaly abusive in my childhood
She doesnt love me, she just loves the idea of having a ladish daugher
Narcissistic, dumb and consumerish with the emotional inteligence of a peanut
Told me my bf should pay my shit and once tought about leaving her bf because "he's not a working man" wich translates to "I want money from him" and tried to teach me the same about bf's
In february she didn't give a fuck when I told her I found my brother filming me in the shower. "but why you have to use violence" bc I throwed boiled water (not to a dangerous point) at him and attacked him with a hammer. He left the house after that but they still talk like nothing happened
Probably other shit I don't remember

Damn bitch you should be out making money to move out, not worrying about the fastest way to lose weight

This warms my heart

I tought about teaching spanish remotely, or just becoming a cam girl whatever
I don't care a lot about money actually, but yeah I want to move with a couple friends

>I don't care a lot about money actually
You've gotta learn this sooner or later, sucks you couldn't have from your dad or whatever, but here it is:
Money gives a big fuck about you. Never underestimate how much you need money because you think you can live a simple life.

Please respond

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Dad died when I was 16 and I genuinily didn't care. I felt some inner peace after he died
And yeah, ironically I don't care about money as long as I have it
Thank you for the concern

black coffee is great, it's just diet soda. Idk if it's the sweeteners or something, but I don't get any caffeine buzz from diet soda whatsoever, it completely just drags me down.

>I don't care a lot about money actually
come on man, name one problem in your life that money won't solve. Start caring for it pronto, as for the cam girl stuff, sure it's a fast way to earn money as long as you can be discrete. Do they even pay well for girls who hide their faces or something?

I don't think I would hide my face
I am very aware how money is important, it delayed my studies. I guess is better to say that I'm not emotionally attached to money

>I don't think I would hide my face
wouldn't that screw up your chances with future employers or something, if you got recognized?

You can block certain countries in chatturbate and I don't have a lot shame
And I don't think ppl here consume a lot of cam girls anyways

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good luck with your life.

Update: My breath fucking reeks and the green tea is barely perceptible now that I'm over halfway done with it

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FELLAS
I'm in the 2nd day of my first 48 hour fast, I just burped and farted something fuckin fierce and now I have a stitch in my side
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

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At that stage, it probably doesn't have a damn thing to do with your fast. Make sure to keep food out of your mouth.