Start doing cardio

>start doing cardio
>decide to go out for a run
>6'0 slightly almost 210lbs so somewhat of a big guy since I am not fat
>havent done cardio in literal years but never really skipped a day in the gym
>run a 5k @ 6min/km
>log my workout on Strava because why not
>stumble upon cardiobunny who also uses Strava and runs segments near me
>she runs 10ks @ 5:20min/km

so a girl that looks like I could literally break her apart with my bare hands has better cardio than I do ? I go to the fucking gym 4 times a week for the last 4 years and I am fucking dieing running a 5k slightly under 6min/km... what the hell... shouldnt I do better ?

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Are you a fucking idiot?

Fuck cardio

Are you retarded?
Also 52:30 10k isn’t that great. A 30 minute 5k is barely better than walking

>cardiobunny is better at cardio than me

?????

a lot of it is technique.
you can lose insane amounts of energy if not breathing correctly or having an awkward running technique.
if you haven't run in years i guarantee your run cycle is fucked up and doesn't look anything like a professional runners. if you were competing with said cardiobunny on a bicycle you would probably outperform her easily (because technique wouldnt factor in)

This. 6min/km is powerwalking. WTF are you doing?

You need to work on them brain gains OP.

A 10 minute mile is pretty average for someone that hasn’t run in a long time.

YOU BIG STWONG MANLY MEN NEED TO LEAVE THE CARDIO TO US SMALL CUTE PEOPLE.. ITS ALL WE HAVE OVER YOU... DONT RUN YOU WILL SHRINK

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>be OP
>be fat
>be retarded
>be faggot

Classic OP

>haven't done cardio in years
there's your answer fatboi

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I have seen her logging bike rides and they are ridiculously slow, I almost go twice her speed but I assumed she had a shit bike

like I said I am not fat which is why I am irritated by this revelation that I am so fucking shit at cardio.

are you fucking kidding me ? barely better than walking my ass

>6’0”
>210 pounds
>not fat

Calling bullshit

take it or leave it, and no I am not gonna post pics for you gays on this board to fap to

>I now remember ex gf
>exact same body
>cant convince her into gym though
>break up
>starts going to gym
>cardio bunny definition now
Well

Dude there’s no way you’re not at least flabby. No one under like 6’2” should weigh over 200.

Holy shit nigger, leave her alone.

>6 ft
>210
>not fat
user, as someone who was there less than a year ago, you’re kind of fat

whatever you say, fatty
maybe lose some weight and you'll catch up on strava?

kek
fucking this

let her mog the shit out of you in peace you manlet

did I ever claim natty in this thread ? why do you guys get triggered so hard by this, go look at a few CBT on here if you think I am big. There are people in my fucking gym who have like 10-20lbs of muscle on me at the same height...

>No one under like 6’2” should weigh over 200
wat

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This is your answer op

>taking steroids
>running
Are you trying to kill yourself?

6’0” even and over 200 just seems way too lumbering and heavy to me. I’m 5’11” and like 165. I’ve been at 180 before and felt heavy, fat and slow. Absolutely hated it.

5’11 180 is skelly, nevermind 165

I play a lot of tennis and prefer to be light.

I thought cardio was supposed to be good for you especially if you roid ? which cardio should I do then if running is a bad choice for a bigger guy ? can I ride my roadbike ?

> tfw you do 6:34 min/mile on a 10 mile run

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You're fucking retarded

And 6' 210 is fucking fat you delusional faggot. No visible and = fat

small guy cope alert

>5’11 180 is skelly

As a natural? You're fucking delusional and don't even lift. Stop shitting up this board fucking faggot. Naturals can't go above 200 lb unless they're 6'2+ without getting FAT. Above 13% bf = FAT

>technique doesn't factor into cycling
nigga what?

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Fucking this. So many people on this board are straight up full of shit.

cardio is fine, that poster is just a fucking retard who believes everything he reads in the news about steroids and Elliot Rogers ODing on creatine

I'm 5'11" and 180lbs, and while I'm "big" by normie standards I'm nearly a twink by Jow Forums standards. You're probably normal by normie standards, unless you have a lot of fat on you.
181lbs at 5'11" is overweight BMI. lawls

There's just a lot of juiced up guys whose minds are completely destroyed by the ridiculous amount of hormones in their bodies.

180 is probably the upper limit weight for natty lifters in the 5’11” - 6’0” range though, right? Seems like anything heavier than that and you’d just be fat.

What's your average speed on a road bike OP? It better be 25km/h or higher

fpbp

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I’m 6’0 180 lbs with abs and i’m actually smaller than most unathletic people in the street. No one can even tell I lift when I’m wearing tshirts/shorts so idk what ur on about. Sorry mate 180 lbs is dyel except if ur under 5’10

not nearly as much as in running. a bicycle is a machine that artificially restricts your motion, whereas you're completely free to move whatever which way on your own two feet. stop being purposely dense.

>putting that much strain on your heart knowing that nearly every famous roider ever drops dead before age 50
>i-it’s just fake news
If you want to roid be my guest but don’t lie about its effects on the heart you delusional faggot

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you are literally a fucking dumbass i swear

I wouldn't think so. I'm natty, and I'm pretty sure I can get to 190lbs sub 15% bf if I really have a go at it.
Also I'm a wristlet and am built like a spider (short torso/long limbs), so there must be some other guy that has a bigger frame than me that gets to 200lbs natty easy.

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Havent done that many rides but usually averaging ~26km/h and that is not really pushing it.

You're both slow as shit congratulations.

OP admitted he roids so that changes things. 6’0 even and 200+ pounds natty? Most guys are going to have a lot of fat on them at that weight.

I just want a simple cardio bunny that looks like this

Not being dense. Going fast on a bike requires technique. Different technique than running, sure, but it's a not a leg press. Maybe if you're essentially drag racing, it'll come down to raw power, but cornering and descending without killing your speed, and climbing without gassing yourself takes skill.

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If your legs dont have full rom while pedaling then you need to adjust your seat.

Cardio's a fucking bodyweight exercise. Your size doesn't influence your endurance in any positive way, most marathoners lift worse than an untrained person when they get into it. The record holder is 5'7 120 pounds. I'm surprised you even did as well as you did.

>cardios a fucking bodyweight exercise
>he thinks running = cardio
user...

Lol @ all these manlet nattylet DYELs saying 180 is the Natty limit

>running isn’t cardio

Please explain. This one oughta be good.

>i’m actually smaller than most unathletic people in the street.

what a fucking meaningless metric

btw don't use the word "athlethic", dumb faggot, athletes don't get big unless it's for a specific role.

Frank zane competed at 185 lb at 5'9. Is this fucking faggot going to tell me he was natural?

I can’t believe how small Jow Forums is

is technique required in the fucking tour the france? yes.
but we are talking about the competition between a trained, hunky dude and some random skinny chick here. technique is clearly not the deciding factor when someone has twice the mass, and you if you are not purposely missing my point (that he IS probably better at cardio in a more controlled setting - cycling) you are literally autistic.
technique is a HUGE factor in running - if you just start out knowing nothing, chances are you're spending most of your energy stomping the ground instead of actually getting yourself forward. anyone can cycle halfway decent.
if you are not being dense, get yourself fucking checked.
that is not technique, that is setup/choice of gear.

Sorry, i kind of worded that wrong.
I should have wrote cardio =/= running. That is to say that there are more cardio exercises out there than just running.

Mate you better come to terms with it, you’re actually dyel
Do you really think frank zane walked around at 185? You said it yourself he was 5’9, not fucking 6’0, and must have been walking around at 200ish so shit example
To give you an example of what unathletic means, cause thats a word we use irl, My dad is 5’9 with undevelopped muscles and a small beer belly and he’s 200 lbs. most north american males that do not exercise have a similar frame, so I get dwarfed by pretty much every passerby. 6’ out of shape dudes usually weight 220+
6 180 with low bf is dyel sorry to break it to you

I see your point but fuck being big. I’d so much rather be lean and agile with visible abs.

That's cuz you're a trap on the inside

I’m the guy that plays tennis. Some of us on this board do in fact do physical activity outside of the gym. Not many; but some.

dude you're fucking brain dead

im talking about people sitting at 12% bodyfat. No fucking shit anybody can get to 16% and 200 lb

you can't be LEAN and anywhere near 200 lb at that height, just deal with it you obese faggot

>Doing anything besides going to the gym
I really fucking hate what this board has become

>being a gymcel

Get a life, nerd.

>gymcel
Is this a thing? It doesn't even make sense.

fucking, gymnasium celibate?

It's a subtype of incel, lifting only to get girls.

It’s also someone that plays no sports or any other sort of exercise outside the gym. I will truly never understand in-shape people that don’t enjoy doing outdoor stuff and just sit on the computer when they’re not at the gym.

>Implying I lift for any reason other than strength

>proud about a 36min 5k

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

That's 30 min 5k though, retard.

No, it actually is not if you're in decent shape, even if you haven't done cardio in a long time. A ten minute mile is almost like the lowest speed you can jog at without it becoming a fast walk.

So you're telling me that as long as I don't become famous I'll be fine?

lol.

i run 10k just under 45 min and i see myself as an untrained slowpoke.

Why are you surprised that someone who trains a specific thing, is better at it? Go to school and get some brain gains dude. Doesn't matter how good you look, if you only talk dumb shit like this.. you are unattractive.

OP is a heavy lumbering roider though. Surprised he managed to maintain even that pace honestly.

not if you are lean

first time I did a mile for shits and giggles I ended up mid 8

I'm 5'11 and I was a fucking twig at 198 pounds and had dropped to a size 32 waist when I finished basic training in the Army many years ago. I was never able to pass height and weight. I don't know how other people my height average at 180.

You must have been fucking shredded. Normal BMI for 5’11” tops out at 165 pounds or so.

Wow how was Auschwitz

>OP is a dumb poster as usual
>6’1 210
>not fat
I’m 6’1 as well and you’re both fat and out of shape. I hate uneducated fools who read the old sticky and stuck to it like glue. Anyone who lifts but doesn’t include any cardio at all while not being a competitive lifter is absolutely unequivocally retarded. No it’s ands or buts about it. Just plain stupid. I shot up to 328 at my fattest, but thanks to IF, Keto, and 10K training along with SS I’ve dropped it to roughly 220 and I’m still able to tell I’m fat. You’re fat too but not only are you a fatty who incorrectly roids for no good reason you’re gonna kill yourself combining 5K consistent work to your regimen being at such a weight and roiding.

As in twig you must mean fat fuck because at that weight and height it ia not possible to be a twig

> I have shit cardio and my arteries are fucked so I cope by saying stuff like "I could break her apart with my bare hands"

lol not if she jogs away. enjoy your diabetes

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It’s always fun to see an user in denial.

>wot r maffs

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You’re fat and your cardio sucks because you’re fat. Pretty sure my 75yo grandma can do 6 min/km

dude I do sport 4-6 times a week for years now, I track what I eat and I try to push myself every time. I just find it worrying that my endurance is that bad honestly... I mean I still work out for 1,5h or so 4+ times a week and it doesnt amount to anything ? infact I am at best average at a basic motor function as running ?

It just seems bad, it is a bit better on a bike and on there it seems the fact that I can use higher gears without much problem helps me out a bit but it still drains my stamina rather quickly. People look at me and have assumed before that I should have no problem riding my bike up hills because I have "huge legs" but the reality is climbing up hills with my bike drains my battery like I am a smartphone watching 4k Youtube videos. I mean I have big legs shouldnt they easily put out this power and therefore make it easier for me cardio wise ?

just continue running op
you will/should catch up

is a 30min 5k really THAT bad ? you guys make it seem like I am on deaths door... isnt that rather average for someone who hasnt run in a while ? I read people on here who said they couldnt even run 2 miles without stopping... so surely the situation cant be that dire...

bp

>>run a 5k @ 6min/km
This literally takes less than a month for a fatass who didn't do anything physical in his life.

5k in 30 minutes is the equivalent of benching 1pl8.

>>putting that much strain on your heart knowing that nearly every famous roider ever drops dead before age 50
Name 3 that didn't actually die from diuretics.

That's a 10 minute mile time, which is shit

don't beat yourself up, women do this all the time.

Definitely beat yourself up over stalking her, though. It's not good for you.

it's a beginner time.

yee yee brother cross country fucking sucks I hate this sport and I wish I wasn't good so my parents wouldn't make me do it

fuck that I wish I was big. id get so much puss

pic related has great feet