>lift for 4 years, went from skinny to ripped
>everyone compliments me for my physique and tell me im good looking etc
>get approached by girls
>get a lot more attention in general from both sexes
>still 23 yo virgin (not kissless anymore though) coz im a neurotic and cant talk to girls for shit and dont know how to escalate things once they initiate conversation
>still never had a gf in my life or even been on a date
ive fixed my physical health how the fuck do i fix this mess of a brain
Just gotta be confident bro
>fell for the looks meme
it's like this dude has never heard of personality
There is only one way to get good at those things man, you have to try. Everybody was scared the first time, and fuck, cold approaching chicks I like still makes me really fucking nervous.
Just stop being afraid of fucking up, cos' you're gonna have to fuck up. Even Arnie fainted in the gym, everybody fucks up.
I'm in the same position bro, I can hold a conversation with girls. I'm just autistic when it comes to flirting and get anxious when it becomes physical (I slept in a bed with a girl and even spooned with her but didnt make a move)
was in the same boat, but 26 years old.
Keep improving yourself, eventually i started having girls throwing themselves at my dick and doing all the work.
You're gonna need to be tall and have a nice face for that though.
Simple fix, OP.
Stop looking for them to initiate. This is unnatural and off-putting, even when the girl is good looking.
You are a man. You pick the girl you want and find a way to get her. If you have the initiative, it's natural and easy.
get on bumble
i was you (but 25) and now i've had a gf for 3 months
Nofap + meditate + watch RSD
Serious it cured my autism with girls and gave me motivation with no anxiety. Especially meditation, do 20 mins before bed or in the morning DAILY.
I've had over 40 partners the trick is to shoot your shot. I've been rejected so many more times than this but i still try because my penis isn't going to suck itself and i'm very lonely. No one has super high expectations out of a one night stand it's just sex.
not OP
but where do you meet girls if you have no friends and spend most of your free time on Jow Forums?
>40
>Thinks it's a lot
>cute
You are surely talking about only this year user...
>be me in gym
>gril watching me
>start loading weights
>Girl comes closer clearly wants to say something but waiting until im done bc got back towards her
>fuck around with the weights
>they start resisting being out on the bar as they sometimes do
>"come on guys dont fuck around theres a cute girl watching"
>actually said that out loud
>dont know why dont even find it funny myself
>She must be inching backwards
>instead "Oh lol are they talking to you?haha"
>"No why? That would be stupid."
>awkward silence
>never looks at me again
based
I met my wife on Jow Forums
>no why? That would be stupid
Should've played it off man
Always easy after the deed but when the autism hits reality fades
Hey not that dude, but still better than me, which is literally 0 partners in my whole life
Thanks dude, do you think it could help me deal a bit with depression?
I'm going to ask this girl in work to go out the next time I'm alone with her, would I ruin my chances by being too blunt and just asking her out on a date?
If you're overthinking it to this degree, it's probably a mistake. You're doing mental gymnastics to devise a possible scenario where it will not be a complete disaster.
I'm an average guy in horrible shape and I've still had sex with several attractive women and I have a cute gf.
Once you talk to a couple of women you realize that even the most attractive women have horrible self esteem and will date even below average guys if they're nice enough and confident. It's true there has to be a small level of attraction and you can't be a total loser, but the whole Chad thing is a complete meme made up by losers.
same. I cant get into situations but I dont know when or how to make a move
Well here's my experience, i was just like you a virgin at 24 very insecure and anxious around women when finally i met a girl in my gym who i started training with, later we became friends and eventually my gf. Bitch took advantage of my inexperience and hurt me badly after we broke up i got very angry at my situation and stopped giving a fuck, just started to talk to more girls and be my dorky self around them. Some chicks liked me some dont, didnt care. In the process Lost my vcard fucked some girls and got another gf who treats me right. Just keep at it OP it is not that hard just lose the fear of fucking it up and being hurt and you'll do well. Good luck
Tfw 2 high iq for meditation to work
it was tough for me to get sex after my social circles kinda faded out.
if you need something now and don't have a goblin face just get a bumble or a tinder or something. (there are probably better ones now)
It suck but it's probably the best you can do with the social anxiety and all.
>>get a lot more attention in general from both sexes
Time to get some cock user, belive me it's better then a vagina.
fix it the same way as your body.
small steps, every day, learn to love the pain.
What's RSD?
Its not that you have a high IQ its just that you're too autistic to actually get anything out of it.
I've been down this road. I was 21 and she was 18. I asked her what shes doing for worked and she told me shes gonna smoke some weed. I asked her casually if she would be up to grab a couple beers and smoke outside my apartment. She said yes. We banged that night.
My honest opinion is dont fuck your coworkers because it could backfire and/or make things weird
just play it cool and ask her out as a casual friend to reduce any type of awkwardness
i used to think talking to women was 90% of the battle. i obsessed over saying the right thing as if talking to women was a game of chess. damn how wrong i was. at least 50% of it is just their physical attraction to you. once you realize how chads talk to women you will realize you were vastly overthinking it. they do a few basic things that separate them from the rest. girls just want to know youre a man and not a bitch and chads demonstrate that. my advice is to keep conversation light and constantly flowing (this was the hardest part of it all for me), tease them often (again keep the teasing light), qualify them while falsely disqualify yourself (Very easy), dont fall for their shit tests (very easy), and escalate escalate escalate. thats it. you can do that in 5 minutes of talking. dont dive deep into the pua bullshit. it has so much unnecessary stuff that would just confuse you.
if you want some good beginner reading material that doesnt go deep into the pua bullshit go read Models: Attraction Through Honesty. i wish i would have read that book before i read all the pua stuff.
Practice, practice ,practice!
Approach women, fail, learn, repeat.
You need to take a risk instead of being cowardly
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>overthinking it to this degree
I didn't think I was overthinking it, I had no other thoughts apart from straight up asking her .
I'm 20, she's 26 and it won't be my job for much longer, I'm leaving in a few weeks. I work night shifts alone and she regularly comes down to my department to talk for 20+ minutes before she goes home.
>No "looking good tonight ladies" option
I know these games lock the best endings behind NG+ but this is horsecrap, I know the answer
Courage leads to confidence. You need to find the courage to just say one line.
>You want go out with me sometime?
Fuck where in the conversation you ask this question. Just find the courage to ask it.
ONE QUESTION IS SEPERATING YOU FROM YOUR GOAL.
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i have literally zero pics of me to use
Harsh truth. Physical gains are way easier to make than social/mental ones.
bad bait
just be yourself bro
how did you improve yourself
t. meet those prerequisites and want to learn the way
>29yo khv
Which board?
I'm the opposite. I have success when I go all in in clubs/bars but I can't hold a conversation for shit. Got this girl's number last week and I think she's starting to realize how autistic I am.
I know this feel
>later we became friends and eventually my gf
>In the process Lost my vcard fucked some girls and got another gf
so it was one of those "she's my girlfriend be she doesn't know yet" type deals?
Definitely will.
Although nofap has periods of depression, but just push through it and you get to euphoric stages. Honestly, with all the talk about nofap, it's still underrated.
Go for it and really try for 90 days no porn, no masturbation, no orgasm and you'll feel like a god.
Actually, you say
>We should go out sometime
Asking her for permission makes you look weak and beta while telling her you two SHOULD go out portrays confidence and dominance. She's also less likely to say no just based on how it's worded and the fact that you aren't asking her.
And no, you can't just bring that out of nowhere in any context. Cmon guys.
bamp
can confirm, models is the opposite of all the pua bullshit and it just makes it all easy and genuine after you get used to it.
Non ejaculatory orgasms> no fap
Plus it makes actual sex so much better.
For all you guys who are struggling to meet people/ girls.
Do you mind spending time alone and are you content with yourselves?
stop larping retard
OP, what you need to do is accept the fact that people like you and that you're likeable. You've got a nice body, you look good, people compliment you. All you need to do now, is literally bee yourself. If you look good, what might come of as autism if you're ugly, will be cute and random if you look good.
You have to love yourself before anyone else can love you.
Thanks man
i accepted i dont need girls, except maybe this one girl i really miss. I want to improve myself and be a person who you can look up to.
all you guys are delusional, if you're as attractive as you think you are, girls will literally message you (after randomly adding you on facebook) to come over without having to talk to them let alone hold a conversation
source: my attractive and fit friend (face and body, not just body)
i have a good body but im in the same situation as you guys because girls care about face wayyyyyyyyy more
>Do you mind spending time alone?
Most of the time I don't mind but sometimes I just get big urges to socialize but don't really know how or where. Also I always feel really embarrassed and insecure so I can't really get myself to do anything.
And when I see people my age getting married and having kids and I have barely talked to a girl my life it just gets me feeling like a loser.
>are you content with yourselves?
Kinda both yes and no depending on my mood. I fear change and feel content on some occasions but I think I'm just good at hiding my own shame for myself.
While you were skinny and undesirable to anyone, you didn’t develop a good personality? Puberty hit me in a good way starting my junior year of high school, but before then I was skinny and pretty fucked up. So to make friends or even get girls I had to have something that most attractive people never had to have. A dope ass personality. Make these fools laugh and they’ll love you, but don’t make yourself look like a fool or you’ll just feel into the undesirableness you feel me?
>not autistic
>can hold a conversation
>can talk to girls
>too shy to do it because embarrassed fatty
I can easily talk with girls, but everytime I want to get serious with one I remember that I'm fat. Shit sucks, probably gonna take me a few years to get in shape.
SUPER NATTYO BROS 64
>23yo KHV
I don't mind spending time alone compared to other people, since I've been alone my entire life basically.
I still get lonely, but life is tolerable. I don't want to kill myself anymore at least.
are you me
it isnt in your nature to be able to procreate, thats why its so hard for you get laid, because you are not supposed to get laid.
Let your shitty genes die off, become a priest or something
I see attractive girls with chubby boyfriends on my campus all the time. I wouldn't be so insecure about it.
Also: you'd be surprised at just how much being able to actually hold a conversation with a girl gives you an advantage over the ripped autismos that dwell here.
Meh, I'm poor fag as well. I won't make it unless I lose weight. My own mind blocks me.
>this dude has never heard of personality
Most normies don't have a personality either though, they're literally a copy and paste of each other.
Monkey see, monkey do.
he's a actual protip for you user. Flirting is 90% no verbal. Use your eyes.
And Jow Forums is any different? This place will bully you mercilessly if you don’t think a certain way.
Protip: it's now what you say, it's how you say it.
justbeyourselfbro
Only betafags gets intimidated by some incels pathetic efforts to bully you on a Sri Lankan stilt fishing forum. I'm an anarcho-communist and a supporter of the LGBTQ+ movement and there's nothing you fags can do about it.
I'd add to do yoga poses as meditation.
I took a hot yoga class (inb4 trolls come to mock it's sauna time + a core workout that stretches out the muscles in a manner that fits your skeleton exactly instead of direct stretching that can cause imbalances you have to self correct[or just do yoga]) for the first time this morning and that gets very spiritual.
pua channel
How did the first girl hurt you?
Based.
I'm worse than you op, I had a girlfriend but I'm still a virgin, as you might guess this shit only lasted for a while.
On the bright side I use the regret and the anger to fuel the shit out my workouts and getting some visible progress so I'm trying to see the glass half full right now
more stories like this
> 40 partners
absolute degenerate
lol
pretty alpha except anarcho-communist is an actual oxymoron, 8/10
You could at least google it before posting something so stupid.
/a/ ronery threads back in 07.
>we should X sometime
But that gives her the option of “yeah totally” and nothing ever coming of it
I hope you die of aids
So you’re telling me a girl who stares directly into my eyes and does not break contact no matter what is trying to tell me something?
Learn how to talk to people. Not just girls, but people in general. Just like lifting or anything else, you only get better with practice. Just start making small talk with random people and learn how to be charismatic
I was the same way at 23, but wasn’t fit at all and got better by doing just that. I told my story about how I was almost about to join an incel message board I was so bad in a thread here a while back.
>be fit
>get tinder
>go on date with 10 girls in 2 weeks
>every one of them ghosts me
On the flip side I went from being a 22 year old virgin to having fucked 9 different girls by 24
If she says yeah totally you say "tonight. 7. Ill be there to pick you up." Just avoid questions
Do you feel fulfilled?
Not trying to ask a loaded question, just curious.
I'm a 26 year old kissless virgin unironically. I'm obviously not content with myself, I hate being such a worthless pathetic drain on society, but spending time alone, yes I am very happy doing things alone.
I wish i could say that I was a 26 year old khc because I am shy, but in fact the opposite is true. I make people laugh with ease all the time... I never take anything seriously but everyone from regular guys to hot girls, never have a problem making them laugh all the time. Problem is, though, I'm very weird, I have ADD, likely autism, and probably an asshole as well so i just push people away
And even if there was a girl who I liked (which is pretty much all of them), I am too afraid to ask them out because of what a loser I am
That's been my experience too.
Matches -> some carry into good conversations based on interests or just because of good flow of convo -> a few of them become first dates, some of which seem fun. That's it, end right there.
Wish I was still in college.
lemme guess u were some stud in college then
Haven’t been on tinder in a while. Last time I was on it it was nothing but obvious bots, disgusting hipster chicks, ugly fat 36 year old wives trying to cheat, and maybe like 1% cute girls that seemed normal.
beggars can't be choosers
If you're in a date, just hold their hand once you can tell they like you. Doesnt need to be smooth or whatever, just hold your hand out to her. Now you'll both have some butterflies. Keep talking etc. I usually say something like "there's the first line we've crossed" with a cheeky little smile. Then when I feel like it's right to kiss her and there isn't something more natural to say, I'll say let's cross another line and pull her in.
If you're able to get girls in bed with you just make out with them, grab their tits, put your hand on their pussy and lightly stroke up and down while making out. Eventually pull the panties off, take shirt off etc. Then flick the bean and suck her tits, stuff like that. Finger her see if she's wet then just get on top of her missionary and make out with your dick just touching her puss. You can probably figure it out from there
NEVER ask for permission to do something, just do it. If she doesn't like it she'll tell you or move your hand away. Then don't do that anymore. Compliments while fucking are also great. Saying shit like fuck you're so wet or you're so tight or your pussy feels so good are all good options