Newfag here. Started doing PPL about 2 weeks ago, and today did Pull day. Started with deadlift and how am i supposed to have enough energy for the rest of the lifts? It eats all the juice. Sure i finished the workout but cant do the rest with 100% effort. Wat do? Rotate the lifts? First deadlift and nextweek deadlift last? or something....
So im doing ppl like this.
Heavy Push Light/volume Pull Heavy Legs Rest Light/ volume Push Heavy Pull Light/volume legs Rest
Well i have trained for 1 year now. 6 months in gym. So not total newfag. Or am i?
Jonathan Baker
>8 days in a week
Push+legs Pull+legs 2x a week each = best and most efficient workout possible
Chase Johnson
Do stronglifts or starting strength, and add pull ups, chin ups, and dips. PPL is a way to organize your programming when you already know what the lifts do for you, and you know how to do them properly. IE, not for new fags.
Luke Gonzalez
You stop doing deadlifts if your goal is aesthetics
If you want to be an ego lifter DYEL fat ass, continue to do so
Brayden Jones
>PPL is a way to organize your programming when you already know what the lifts do for you, and you know how to do them properly So after about a week of SS?
Benjamin Lopez
I have done the SS, it wasnt really working anymore.
Christopher Diaz
What are you talking about? Deadlifts are great for forearm and upper back development.
Liam Powell
no, because SS doesn't add in accessory lifts until weeks after starting the program. PPL workouts are accessory heavy by definition, because otherwise your days would look like only:
Do deadlifts on the heavy day and reduce volume on that day
Daniel Garcia
I-is that her bagina?
Alexander Fisher
Longer rest periods between deadlifts, extra rest before starting the rest of the workout. Drink water and go to the gym with a good high carb meal
And start doing cardio because you shouldn't be that gassed
Ian Brooks
Cardio probably is the problem, havent done any.
Benjamin Morales
Time doesn't matter. Average normie lifts for 4 years and gets results you could get in 6 months. How much are you lifting/how much heavier are you lifting is what matters
Blake Davis
PUFFY U F F Y
Joshua Parker
Yeah deadlifts are exhausting. But over time you'll be better.
Tk;dr man the fuck up and you'll be fine.
Luis Cox
do SS with +250 calories over maintenance, when you stall move to a BB program still +250-400 for a few months or until you are at 25-30%BF, then cut 250 to 400 below maintenance while on SL dropping to a 3x5 instead of 5x5 until you are below 10% bf and then cruise for a bit on a PPL eating to stay at that weight.
There you go, that is a 2 year game plan. I am not even kidding or trolling you, this is what I should have done..
Full body every other day. Stop fucking around with bro splits.
Adrian Thompson
Don't do deadlifts, retardo. Mongoloids think the body has infinite resources "bro just do ALL exercises heavy don't be push xD" which is also why PERIODIZATION is a thing. Choose wisely the exercises you want to do based on your GOALS. Not just doing them for the sake of doing them. Do you think Olympic lifters do bicep isolation??
People do garbage ass routines like SS and never learn the basics of peridization blocks
Caleb Perry
forgot to add, do 15 minutes of cardio everyday when eating extra, and when you cut you need to add a day of just cardio for at least an hour. I add the 15 minutes so it isnt such a struggle when it comes time to cut and only complete idiots fall for the cardio kills gains meme.
Cameron Harris
>bulking to 25% bf Don't listen to this retard
Jack Hall
so what should a routine focusing on looking good look like?
Charles Gomez
If you eat at a small surplus like he described it'll literally take you 18+months to reach that level of bodyfat.
Ethan Jackson
Periodization is shit and outdated.
Hudson Walker
satanic and true
Jason Rogers
That's not how periodization works
Alexander Diaz
Fuck you nigger I am on nofap
Jordan Ortiz
>Wasting at least a year and a half to become a fat faggot somehow makes becoming a fat faggot a less retarded thing to do
Daniel Watson
Yeah because you can quickly and aggressively cut to be relatively lean from there, instead of doing what you fucking retards do and yo-yo from 14-18% bodyfat and never be big, never be strong, and wonder why you're moving the same weights and look the same after 3 years.
Jose Morris
>Cutting at 250-400 cal deficit is aggressive cutting
Tyler Powell
I didn't agree with that part :^)
Noah Jackson
You think bulking to obese levels of bodyfat is a good idea so you're still a tard
Sebastian Reyes
When you're eating at a surplus that small you're not really bulking. You're gaining weight at about 1lb/month. Most of that is going to be lean mass, and you're going to get stronger and bigger more consistently than an average fitizen. If you think spinning your wheels and staying sub 20% bf without being in a surplus for more than 6 months at a time is optimum you're a fucking retard.
Brayden Sullivan
>Deadlifts are great for forearm and upper back development. and lower back destruction
Angel Foster
Yeah, if you're dumb
Logan Gomez
I don't get this problem with my pulls, but I can't do my max OHP at all if I bench prior to OHP. Not sure why. But I struggle to OHP 105 if I bench beforehand and struggle to bench 185 if I OHP before hand.
Sebastian Murphy
I shouls clarify: I find the weight I listed as a perfectly doable 6 reps by 5 sets -- easy if I do them fresh.
Asher Parker
You're an absolute dumb fuck. I'm not complaining about bulking or eating at a surplus. The post said "bulk to 25%" which is the problem. Being at that high a range is fucking with your hormones and there's no point in doing it. Also 20% bodyfat is nowhere near as lean as you seem to think it is, you should try looking it up.
Elijah Thompson
who the fuck does 5x6? as for your problem, bench and ohp both use front delts, upper pecs, and triceps so if you work them back to back, you'll lose a bit of strength. i couldnt ohp after bench for a while but now i can bench nearly 2 pl8s and ohp 1pl8 right afterwards with minimal strength loss. it just comes down to strength endurance which comes through practice.
You're a dumb faggot and you can ignore every point I made all you want but it still fucks with your hormones bulking to 25% and your picture with what you estimated your bodyfat as doesn't prove fuck all retard.