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>How to lose 'em ?

I'm finishing my cut (slightly visible abs atm), but lower back/stomach fat seem eternal... (been fat since teenage). Is starving myself the only way ?
I'm 1m88/84kg.

Barely a fingerful and im fat. Im jacking off now. I love the smell of shit

Yes, fasting works wonders.

how many days of fasting will it take before my muscle start to eat itself?

Depends on your body fat percentage. Increased HGH production while fasting preserves muscles and keeping the muscles active helps too.

I do 18 hour fasts on workout days and 36+ into fasted training on rest days going into workout days and have not lost muscle and about 15 pounds in just under a month.

Keep going buddy. Same height 1.88 weight 81 kilos. Abs not yet visible. We're all gonna make it!!! Goal weight is now 70 kgs with clean cut.

>and that's a good thing

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How muscular are you? 84 kg is too much to be lean, unless you aren't a beginner.

>faster gains
>spend less on supplements
>enough space anywhere
>cheaper clothes
>better cardio
>stronger bones
>stronger tendons

This but i have a beer gut type of bloat
And i don't even drink beer

>cheaper clothes
Are you wearing children's clothing or something? Never heard of smaller clothes being cheaper, never seen that either.

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If you have visible abs, you have low bodyfat, period.
Bloated abs is caused by your abs' natural state being too relaxed outward, I suggest you take two habits to fix this:
-when doing abs exercise, try to keep a tight stomach as you exhale (don't push your gut out)
-do stomach vacuums

Small siezes go on sale more often and some things like jeans look the same in child sieze.
Same goes for sports equipment, 47 and 50cm bike frames for example are pretty much always on sale somewhere and legitimately cheap.