Eric Bugenhagen

>intensely

You mean shit technique and odd lifts while screaming like a retard is intense lol fanboy you got fooled by the judenhagen

>lifting over 2 years is pointless
that is your argument? you expect anyone that has any experience at all with lifting to believe that?

No but saying he lifts for 20 years doesn’t mean jack shit he still has an unobtainable physique for a natty, too much muscle mass and leanness.

>he does small doses of roids to look like he's natural
lol the cope is strong here

>he still has an unobtainable physique for me, my current routine and genetics
sucks for you, 6'1 and a watery/soft 230lbs isn't inherently unnatural

Nope to look better than natural please find a natural that looks like bugenhagen with his amount of muscle and leannnes they literally do not exist

>soft

Maybe for body building standards but for the natural lifter he is way harder, muscular and leaner than he should be especially weighing 230/240

you assume he's automatically on roids, despite being watery/soft and having shit shoulders, if I showed you more people like him or better you'd assume they are also roiding, that's how your mentality works

you do'nt even know what the steroid "look" looks like, you should try roids and see the difference, sounds like you need them given your crappy genetics

You clearly think people on roids look like pro bodybuilders when plenty of people use roids to simply enhance their look and in bugenhagens case create a legion of cock sucking cucks that think he’s the god of natties

this guy is 6'0, 230lbs. He claims natural in this pic.
Notice the difference in hardness and fullness between him and Eric. Now you can say this guy is on roids, that's fine, his physique is actually impressive, Eric's is not impressive, it's soft, watery, lacks fullness and has no shoulders. Eric always looks natural, if he's on roids its TRT doses at most.

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He absolutely does not look soft or has shit shoulders, what are you talking about?

>You clearly think people on roids look like pro bodybuilders
No I don't, never implied that. But being on roids for a long time and lifting consistently will give you a very different look than what Eric has.

>when plenty of people use roids to simply enhance their look and in bugenhagens case create a legion of cock sucking cucks
His personality, energy and humor is what attracts people. Even if he was smaller and weaker he would have a decent sized following...

Your implying that not only is he on roids, but that roids have put him definitely above the "natty limit" for humans. If this is true his physique would look a lot better and you know it, it doesn't.
That's why you change your argument to claim he just does small doses or someshit, be around the natty limit.
Your argument is crap, your grasping at straws, go back and rethink it.

Because he’s running higher dosages than bugenhagen you moron Eric isn’t dumb I’ll give him that he knows what to run and how much to give him the look he wants he probably cycles test, sarms and anavar

there's a screenshot floating around. I don't even think he deleted the comments. he did a prohormone cycle, and actually never denied it. but then there's the whole debate about what's natty and what's not, and "are you natty if you did a cycle 5 years ago" and so on.

>He still doesn’t understand dosages, different anabolic compounds and cycles.

Maybe you should do some fucking research cause using gear doesn’t necessarily make you a freak not even if you use it for a long time. And no. A big part of bugenhagens following is that he’s some sort of godly natty just like people believed nether beast in his basement

>his shoulders are good!
even he said his shoulders are shit and his worst bodypart
>i'm new to lifting and can't tell what size is, I don't understand hardness and fullness
lol

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He does that on top of regular bodybuilding routine.

Y’all need to get a life lmao

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>No I don't, never implied that. But being on roids for a long time and lifting consistently will give you a very different look than what Eric has.
If that were true then your body producing testosterone for a long time would cause you to drastically morph over time. You don't; you hit your limit. The same happens with gear - that's why you up the dose/change compounds/add in GH

So, now...let's take what we just learnt and think for a moment. If he takes the same gear for a long period of time he's going to hit a wall and not turn into Ronnie Coleman like you thought he would.

You fucking idiot.

again you're reverting to the "he does small doses" argument, which is a cop out, you're basically admitting you could be wrong because his physique isn't necessarily unnatural.

>some people just do it to boost their physique a bit
ya no shit, but if you're gonna accuse someone of roids they need to actually LOOK like they're on roids, which means something above TRT doses, something significant, not necessarily a mass monster, but something actually impressive. Eric doesn't have the look.

You're just mad because Eric is redpilled and hate manlet subhumans. LMAO
How's it going down there little ''man''? LMAO

This. You really have to eat absolute shit, never sleep at all and never workout to achieve that

I dont think that guy is on roids. Doesnt raise any Red fags. That forearms though,fucking hell that cunts blessed

Eric looks way better than that now, ever since he started doing cookie cutter bodybuilding shit and not just retarded daily deadlift partial maxing, he started bulking up on his shoulders arms and chest.

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Again...TRT doses would make you look normal.

That's not a supraphysiological dose you mongoloid.

This guy does look like he's on gear he's just fucking lazy that's why he looks shit and doesn't look "unnatural" to you.

Go on any steroid forum and you'll find hundreds of people like that.

Go to any gym and you'll find hundreds of middle aged men who've been cycling and still look like shit.

Dyel. Shapeless Torso, no lats, fatty Arms. and fix your tan bro

Lol you’ve clearly never met guys on roids cause half the time you can’t even tell they lift look at Cassady Campbell on YouTube look at Jason Genova even Prince Andrew and Brad are on roids. If you’ve ever actually met guys who used roids believe me there is no certain look unless you take massive amounts but you can still usually tell the types and bugenhagen seems like exactly the type of guy with just enough muscle mass and leanness to make him very suspect

TRT makes people look like freaks though, there are homeless niggers on aids therapy taking testosterone in low ammounts and they have veins on their fucking abs and striated delts without even training, come on now.
not him but even small ammounts of drugs make a difference

>he looks like shit because he's lazy
>he also looks above the natty limit and does roids
pick one brainlet

I don't understand why you think he's on steroids(like 400 something bench at 230lbs bw), he's not too strong, and doesn't look that freaky.

Literally nothing about him speaks steroids, the faggot making these threads is probably betadestiny because he's angry about Eric's glorious, natural facial hair while he has to use "beard oil"

>cassady camplbell and genova and ....
>lots of shitty lifters are on roids and look like shit!!! just look at bb forums!!

Yes they look totally natty despite being on roids because they can't lift and eat properly.
But that's not the argument here. OP is saying Eric is so impressive that his physique can't be obtained naturally, no matter what, hence he MUST be on roids.

OP said this from the start, now he's changing his argument to "well guys with shitty physiques can also be on roids, just look at failures on bb forums" lmao. OP is backpeddling and coping really hard now.
Watch him implode.

>the body of a roider

This is bait

>massive delts and traps
>natty

Yeah I’m sure all his overhead pressing didn’t coincide with him going on another cycle

Lol no cause the other guy was convinced that steroids give a certain look and are very noticeable I had to prove him wrong he thinks their is a unilateral look to roid use when I merely pointed out that Eric is to big and lean to be natty, which he is. But the other guy was convinced you had to be a certain look if u use roids which isn’t true

>eric is too big and lean
>lean
>lean
LOL
Eric was lean here and looked small as shit >some roiders look like shit, so I can accuse anyone of roids :^)
:^)

lol

If you're gonna accuse someone of roiding based on their "looks" they need to actually "look" like they're on roids, you can't start saying "well Jason Genova and failures on BB forums do roids and look like shit too!"
That defeats your entire argument that should be based on looks.

Anyone who's been into lifting for a longtime knows you can't just judge a guy by his looks unless his physique is obviously unnatural in size, density, fullness, leanness....etc. Eric just has some size but it's not unnatural for his height, the rest is watery/ soft, not lean, not full, he has very lagging body parts, etc.

When he is very lean he loses a lot of size.

So what if he uses roids? What does that affect you?

But the thing is, you cant tell if those men did cycle. So you never know.

If Eric uses roids then OP can feel better about looking DYEL himself.
Nattys hate it when they see Nattys that actually fill out a large t-shirt and look like they lift.

The faggot said and I quote “if your gonna accuse someone of roids they have to actually look like their on roids” I then gave him counter examples to prove him wrong which I did. It’s like you cucks have selective reading abilities when it comes to your cuck lord judenhagen

You guys restored my faith in Jow Forums. I am being serious. Thank you.

The cucks are coming out the fucking wood work lol!!! They actually unironically fell for Eric lies about muh intensity muh 20 years training their so filled with homo lust for a retard in a basement they can’t possible even CONCEIVE he would use roids cause he’s muh daddy Eric and daddy Eric never lies to me!! WAAAAAAAHHHH

Proving him wrong doesnt make your points right. You are an insecure dyel who hates himself and is jealous of this guy. Kill yourself.

Also

just fucking lol if you think he roids.

op please please post body and stats

>The faggot said and I quote “if your gonna accuse someone of roids they have to actually look like their on roids” I then gave him counter examples to prove him wrong which I did
That doesn't prove him wrong because instead of doubling down and explaining why Eric "looks" like hes on roids/unnatural you backpeddled and changed the argument to "even guys with bad physiques, who look shitty, can be on roids!".
Sorry to say this, but you lost, you played yourself.

1. I dont know who this guy is nor have i ever seen him before.
2. It is very obvious that you hate yourself, otherwise you wouldnt be jealous of this guy.
3. No one cares
4. His progress is not impressive, i wouldnt have guessed he would be on roids. Looks natty
5. You dont know shit about roids

nah he doesnt do roids. i bet youre thinking about starting though, huh? you probably look like shit, huh? lol

Thank you. You think he's gonna accept his failure?

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t. has lifted for 2 years and stalled

Were not denying that he may have taken whatever growth hormone his wrestling coach gave him years ago, but he obviously hasn’t taken anything consistently in the last few years, stop being a dicklet

FAggot no that was a separate issue where he said you have to look like your on roids to be on roids which you obviously don’t. I never said Eric doesn’t look like he is on roids actually I explained that he is too big (240lb) too hard and too lean, these are tell tale signs of roids including his traps and delts. I didn’t disprove myself of anything. In fact I said earlier that Eric knows what he’s doing he’s smart when it comes to drugs and that he probably runs test, anavar and sarms. I pointed out Jason Genova and cassady as those were the first to come to mind. Here’s a better example. Andrew Collura. He ran heavy cycles back in the day then was natty for 10 years running only sarms in that time frame. At the end of those 10 years he was 20lb lighter than bugenhagen (220lb) and of comparable strength and physique so if that’s isnt proof that Eric at least used to run big cycles I don’t know what is

Even if you're right, he's still posting photos of himself while you struggle with even the idea of other people judging your pudgy, DYEL body.
Try to be more positive

Andrew collura known for massive steroid use in past then spent 10 years as a “natty” lifter when he used sarms during that time. 20lbs lighter than bugenhagen and similarly physique. This is what I am trying to prove about Bugenhagen. He ran a lot of shit in the past now does lighter stuff occasionally

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I do post Photos of myself. And why should i be positive towards an absolute asshole?

He got famous doing rackpulls and goofy deadlifts of course he has massive traps you fucking retard

Collura back

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t. zoomer

Post body

this whole thread is one DYEL desperately struggling to cope.

just roid bro, get it over with.

Fuck off Blaha

Not natty.

>What does that affect you?
Not anywhere close to a coherent argument or valid point and you're most definitely a hypocrite for even suggesting it. I'm not the guy you're replying to, I don't if the Bugez is natty or not, but your argument is so fucking stupid that I have to call you out on it. Something doesn't need to directly affect you in order for you to care about it. People are passionate about things or are upset by others duping the simple minded into falling for their tricks. It may not affect you, but it sure as shit affects at least one other person. It could also just be principle, any value/idea/moral that someone holds close to them.
It's the SAME exact argument that fatties/fatty supporters use. "How do my eating habits affect you?" Except this time, it's on a MUCH larger scale and thus directly affects you and everyone else more greatly.

>if that’s isnt proof that Eric at least used to run big cycles I don’t know what is
good so you've conceded you have no proof. there's a big boy now!

>what is genetics

Dont act like 20lbs dont matter, thats a huge fucking differnece. And their physique is not similar at all.

Exactly and his physique is almost identical to Eric’s not to mention lighter .what does this tell us about Eric then

youtu.be/lv0YbN4r9w8

No you fucking wont gtfo. You dont know shit about roids.

Yeah and Eric 20lb heavier than a known roider with same leanness. Lol and Eric’s still natty? I don’t think so !

nice fucking essay faggot lmao get a soapbox

I want those lats

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>if you take roids you will wake up the next day looking like Ronnie Coleman

Go kys you fucking brainlet

Lol i bench 1.5x bw after 2.5y, keep on coping benchlet

if he took the same dose his strength wouldnt shoot up anymore you dyel, go read a book about roids
Also how sad do you think the natty life is? If you think after 20 years eric cant look than that then just quit lifting.

ok so basically
>being a dyel doesnt exclude you from taking steroids
>there is a part of the population with great genetics who will be naturally bigger
woah nelly, its almost like we cant tell if someone uses gear or not just by looking at them!

>Go to any gym and you'll find hundreds of middle aged men who've been cycling and still look like shit.
find one that lifts like the Bugez and they won't

Because he's one of us...

Try to get to 2x, it will take you 10 years

started following this guy a month or so ago, great videos 10/10, was surprised and skeptical upon hearing that he claims to be natty

Poorly?

Shouldn’t be hard.

AlphaDestiny said that Eric was 100% natty and I believe him

The guy has fuck all muscle but you’re praising his training.

What are you on?

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>Exactly and his physique is almost identical to Eric’s not to mention lighter .what does this tell us about Eric then

eric isn't balding

He never fluctuates in size, he's always been like this, never shredded, just big and lean. If you follow him you'll know he's indeed natural.

He claims to be natty now because of his WWE gig you morans. He has always been open about blasting once many years ago.

Everybody should do at least one cycle anyway for the muscle cell gains so who gives a shit.

He’s 5’10 or less Eric is 6’1” of course one is going to weigh more brainlet

Lmao calling people cucks when you think eric is on roids, how small and pathetic is your physique that you see his as unattainable?

Eric is 6’1” he should be able to be over 220lbs at sub 15%
Also he has competition bench of 385, deadlift 605. How many people do you know at gyms that have hit those lifts? Of course he is going to have muscle mass.

He admitted to taking prohormones.
>“My coach recommended that I take a creatine supplement that had dethyel in it. I took it and didn’t like and went off 2 weeks later. Ever supplement pre late 2000s had some kind of prohormone in it since the fda didn’t ban it at the time. So any one in the late 90s and early 2000s is not natty”