Be very /fit

Bait, but I have to express rage at the utter delusion someone has to have to convert to an ethnic religion in the 21st century.

You have to talk to girls as if they are already your friends, talk to all girls without holding any big expectations, the bigger your expectations are the more insecure/introverted/shy you will be, because you will constantly worry about outcomes and trying to calculate what to say next to get the desired results...This stinks of neediness and desperation and it will trip you up, and make your conversations awkward.

Don't worry about outcomes when you talk to people, just be centered in your values and yourself, be focused on doing and saying what is good, true and decent, and you will be able to adapt to any situation.

Expand your social circle, talk to girls at work and school, small chats can turn into big conversations. Setup dates and try to find a girl who has similar values as you, don't just fuck thots pointlessly, its gross and unfulfilling and if you get attached to girls easily this will hurt your mentality and heart and make you bitter and jaded.

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of course i would fuck fat chicks just to gain some confidence but what would you guys say to a chick in a bar or club? What makes them wanna go home with you?

>of course I would fuck fat chicks to gain confidence
not how it works, you'll look back at your "achievements" and realize they are garbage, it's better to stay virgin than waste time with hookers or fat cows, which you will regret as you get wiser.

>what to say to make them come home with you
one night stands are gay. don't develop gay values.

t. virgin

Hi Ahmed. Thanks for taking time off from raping to offer this piece of really shitty advice.

Sounds good, I am starting to slowly open up a new social circle. I am also started to ask girls out on dates and shit. But yeah this is good. every time i tried to expect something from a girl it usually ended up fucking me up and failing everytime

>if you aren't a degenerate hedonist like niggers in rap videos then you're a virgin!!
fag mentality.
also being a virgin isn't bad.

not OP but
>try to have a genuine conversation with someone
>realise I have nothing to say and no desire to say anything anyway
>the few times I do want to say something it's only to bitch and release some inner tension

Maybe you could start by, why do you have your wrist wraps on in the bathroom? Have you reverted to giving out power handjobs in your loneliness?

Anyway, learn from it and get better. You talked to a girl, that's something to be proud of. Next time you know you need to say to come back to yours. When it occurs to you that you should tell her you want to, don't hesitate. It's one of those things where if you hesitate and don't act within the first few seconds of having the impulse to do it, you won't end up acting on it.

Also, figure out what you want.
>Some slutty 40 year old woman
>No idea where to get a gf
Are different things. Maybe you should try tinder, or having bros wingman you, and get laid a few times (I guarantee there's some tinder thots who will sleep with almost anyone within a few hours or a day of messaging and within 5 minutes of meeting up). Fuck some sluts so you know there are plenty of other girls out there when you get a gf and she breaks your heart.
Getting a gf is a bit different, sometimes it might come from hooking up with what seemed a ONS; but more often it's asking on dates, or becoming close through a shared interest, and going from there.

Or just hop on tren and be a rapebeast.

>>realise I have nothing to say and no desire to say anything anyway
Dude, theyre women, just ask them shit about themselves.

The trick is like that guy says, to talk to them like a friend, however i would add that you do need to be a bit flirty, tease them and steer the conversation in a sexual or dating direction, that should be the subject, but the manner of talking shouild be like friends.

But you dont need to talk about yourself much, and they dont care much.

Also when you compliment them, if you feel its the right moment to do so, dont just be generic and say youre cute/hot/pretty, say something unique like i like your eyeshadow or your earrings match your top etc. Women love that shit.

In my experience, if a woman willingly talks about dating or sex, and especially if she first mentions it, then she wants it with you.

>>the few times I do want to say something it's only to bitch and release some inner tension
Sounds like you can't fake interest and you have some doubts or fears you need to resolve within yourself.

It might not be fun at first but you should dedicate time to some sort of meditation or philosophical/spiritual reading. Pick whatever tradition is closest to your sensibilities and put it into practice.

>>realise I have nothing to say and no desire to say anything anyway
Are you genuinely interested in other people or the girls you're trying to talk to? Not everyone is a big talker, I chose a gf who doesn't speak much english for this reason. Most of our communication is body language and short, direct sentences. I love the simplicity of it. I can't imagine dating a girl who speaks fluent english and is a big talker, my head would explode...

But the other things you said imply you need some inner development first, work on yourself, then when you are more at peace go out and approach girls with a genuine interest. You don't need to be a big talker, lots of quiet girls exist.

How tall are you?
And you won't meet worthwhile girls in clubs or something. Go to college, take up a hobby or meet a girl over a friend of a friend and that sorts of shit

you are vastly overestimating my conversational abilities
>dont just be generic and say youre cute/hot/pretty, say something unique like i like your eyeshadow or your earrings match your top etc. Women love that shit.
I'll take that on board though, that sounds useful

I can fake it somewhat but I tire of it very quickly. I definitely have fears and doubts about myself
>Are you genuinely interested in other people or the girls you're trying to talk to?
barely. I feel some vague need for a connection with others but conversation is borderline painful for me, almost nothing other people say resonates with me. To pretend otherwise is fake.

too much work
just see a hooker once a fortnight and go nuts for an hour and be done with it
t.bitter woman hater

Pick up a hobby that involves other people too. Hiking, rock climbing, painting (there are many painting studios, but there are mainly married women), anything that involves talking to other people. So you will eventually make a few friends, and maybe even a gf, slowly but surely

174? maybe 5'9 or 5'8
I'm seriously jumping on a serious cycle and just leave my humanity behind. But yeah i've tried giving tinder a chance but I am a shitskin and unfortunately i don't pull anything from there. I've tried many times. I'll just go out more with my friends and stop being afraid to get rejected in the future. Thx bro

You don't look shitskin at all

>too much work
Valuable things take work to achieve.
>just see a hooker once a fortnight
this reinforces the fact that you're a loser. like standing in line for a welfare check. I was raised differently.

i have light skin but parents are from shit skin country which makes me a bit undesirable to women here. I am not feeling sorry for myself it's just a fact. But of course there are women who doesn't care about that shit and i'll just have to try to look for those i guess

Yeah just try it, act a bit cocky and teasing, start believing that women are sluts, try going for kiss/tell her she should come home with you/taxi together/whatever. I'm assuming it will just be club sluts, that's fine. I went from getting laid pretty much on accident and being constantly frustrated, to being able to pick up fairly consistently, at least for a while. Back to being an antisocial NEET now. The success came with really not giving a fuck.
You don't look shitskin btw, but maybe your face is arab is another story.

Sex club.

Well you're as tall as my younger sister so that probably explains a lot. If youre that strong and that short you probably just look like an overcompensating manlet. Next time mention your height in the OP because it saves a lot of trouble. Sorry to be the one to break it to you but height memes are true. Being 191cm tall I really dont know what to recommend to you since none of it applies to you.

And btw you especially won't hook up with girls in clubs since they all wear heels there and even a 160cm tall midget girl will be the same height as you in heels

So where should i go? I know manlet memes are real and i was obsessed over those for a while. I think the reason i failed on tinder was because i wrote my height at 5'8 and my taller , untrained buddy got matches all the time.
but there should still be some women out there right

how did you get your arms that big breh? I'm struggling

heavy narrow grip bench with pause for tri's and heavy dumbbell curls and weighted chins for arms

Am I the only one who feels like my self confidence lowers if I fuck a fat chick? Like I'm getting depressed because I'm underachieving.

It's not really what you say, it's more so how you say it. Flirt with your eyes and your body language.The more practice you get, you'll start noticing signals that girls are into you. They make it obvious. Understand that rejection is part of the game and not all girls are sluts that will go home with a guy they met in a bar.

Your first dad today try talking with you me about the it is to them? Because I think you need sex, try the brothel it’s a mastsbotory celebration of the pencil senses. The boys only got one and
I have just bought the it.
everyone I know get's laid except for me. Every single one of them will is to the work time point my friends have had a gf besides me and my friends think i am lying when I tell them I'm frustrated when I can't use the my it says it’s I have a can of it but get one. What the fuck should i do /fit

convert to christianity mahmed, its the true religion.

I honestly dont know where you could meet girls. I never made attempts to meet girls because they always came to me. My guess is tinder, over friends or as I said, a hobby, college etc.
I got a few friends your height that slay pussy, but they got "game". I dont know what they do but from what I've seen it comes down to literally confidence as cheezy as that sounds. But those guys just fuck and dump those girls. If you want someone meaningful you need luck

>Your first dad today try talking with you me about the it is to them?
What the fuck am I reading

I'm gonna recommend getting an escort that does GFE - girlfriend experience. Might give u confidence/learn to respond to girls advances.

Not op but does tinder still work?
Back when i was 20-24 it was pretty easy to get a bitch, but it seems like most of 'em are only interested in what you do nowadays. Should i just lie about some shit?

>Mr.neet

Haha wtf bro u having a stroke?

C O P E

Islam is the furthest thing from an "ethnic religion",

>murican edumacashun

...how tall are you?

umm it's HEIGHT, FACE, then frame. So post pic of face with your height.

You only think they care about what you do because you also think that what you do is not impressive.

>steroids
>fit
Oh I am laffin m80

Anyways, body means shit, especially yours since you're roided up. It's all about the face. 100% you're one ugly mofo if you can't get laid.

based, redpilled, pure, and true.

thats natty tho.
He doesnt even look that big.

Date me then

this is the best advice in the thread
I also did not read the whole thread

based osama

Pic related is me, I just met them 2 mins before that picture was taken.

You're projecting your visual attraction onto women. Men fall in love with their eyes while women fall in love with their ears. Did u know that women can orgasm without any physical contact? It's all in their head. You have to develop your personality and sense of humor, not your muscles.

That's why people say bodybuilding is a 'gay sport'. Because that's not what women want.

If u don't believe me,I have tons of other pics with hot chicks, some who I fucked the same day after meeting them. White, latin, black, asian, all types.

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Dude. I believe you. Please teach me. I'm op btw. I know bodybuilding is not helping me at all. Only alienating if anything. Women want a smooth social person. But I guess you've always been a good talker right? not become one

The two last sentences.... that's basically me

i'm natty, i'm 22 and been training since 16. Doing gymnastics has helped my arms grow and I train heavy hence my development in my traps. I might be jumping on a test cycle in the future though.

but you are tall and white. literally 98% of all women want this.

I have black, arab, latin friends that do the same shit.

Even an asian guy who is 5'6" and he gets more pussy than me. He gets them to make pornos with him too lol

except white women

Literal retard.
I literally insult girls and still fuck em because they lust for my muscled body.
Looks matter a lot bro.

1. Stop jerking off. It makes u lazy and complacent. Eventually ur gonna have to bust a nut somewhere.

2. Go to a mall or parade or some kind of event and talk to every hot chick u see. Important: every girl that YOU think is hot. The first one is hard but it gets easier every time. Start with sincere compliments. For ex: Dont tell an ugly girl shes beautiful because that's just lying.

You will notice that the hot girls will be so happy that you're actually talking to them. Most girls tell me something like this 'Wow, you actually had the balls to say hi! Most guys just stare and don't say anything."

And most importantly:
3. Have fun. It's not a 'mission' or a job. It is supposed to be fun. When I go out just with the goal of having fun is when I get the best results with women. So relax and have fun.

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>t. false confidence loser who hasn't found true confidence

I like women. I don't like insulting them.

Whatever works for u dude, I'm just sharing what works for me

No they want it most

wtf are these pictures? are they just coming up on the street and asking for pics with you?

I think he ask them for pics, Its incredibly easy to manipulate the niceness of people, just because they don't want to be mean. Have you ever watched impractical jokers, It's insane what people let them do without stoping them.

If i convert, will i get a cute 13y old?

>Lifting for girls
Never understood why you faggots do this. Maintain decent ottermode and girls will see you no differently than every other gymbro. Picking up girls is nothing more than face and game. Have a nice face and understand the tribal fertility dance that is "hookup culture" and you can get laid. But if all you want is the feeling of a warm wet hole over your cock, I suggest you stop wasting your time with average-looking whores and instead invest in a Fleshlight.

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I'm also getting pretty fit now and realizing that a nice body seems to only get women to check me out from afar but I still need to do all the work 99% of the time and if I mess up socially they will immediately be turned off and done.

It doesn't help that I'm insecure as fuck and only seem to be able to derive confidence from comparing myself to others in objective ways. Such as "I'm the only fit guy in this class and 60% of the class is women I bet some of them like me". But I realize this method is not healthy because I'm pointing out flaws in others to make myself feel better.

So when a girl talks to me I get this feeling of stage fright and absolute judgement where I can't relax and have a good time.

No, there was an event going on. I just talk to them, give them some compliments, sometimes Ill ask for a pic, then we just talk and if they seem cool I ask for their number and then we meet up later. Sometimes the same day.

Sometimes I wont be interested in them but they ask me for my number anyway.

I was a at a work conference on Friday and some girl comes up to me asking me for my number.

If you try KNOW AND BELIEVE that you are the shit, you wont be desperate for women. Idk how but women can SENSE desperation and they despise it.

Talking to at least 5 new girls a day will give you an abundance mentality where you wont chase after any one girl because you KNOW that you can meet 5 new ones tomorrow.

All that matters is your face. You are probably ugly. Ugly face will ruin a nice body.

L O S E R

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Confidence must come from within: Your mindset, accomplishments, discipline. True confidence must be internalized.

If you are scared of talking to women it means you don't talk to enough of them. I've been there. When you talk to one new girl a week there is more pressure. But if you just got 5 numbers yesterday, there is ZERO pressure. Also, you have positive past experiences which raise our confidence through the roof.

>HOT

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Get a part-time job in a busy bar.

You'll learn how to talk and flirt from patrons and coworkers alike and it gives you the ideal practice for just shooting the shit with people. It's basically a social life in itself. You'll be laid within the month.

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>what you need to do is worship some child-rapist, behave like a barbaric ape in medieval times, and marry some hairy sandnigger
Wow great idea Achmed

Sounds like mental problems, get help my guy

>try to find a girl who has similar values as you, don't just fuck thots pointlessly, its gross and unfulfilling
Why does no one on this board get this? A lot of people are stupid and vapid. Don't date them, even if they look good. Actually put some effort into finding a woman that is intelligent, kind and similar to you rather than trying to find a 10/10 like some shallow low-IQ normie.

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Wrong. Don't ever reply to my posts ever again.

Thanks user

>be sand nigger
>wants money
>avoiding what war exactly?
>nothing stopping him from going to turkey
>boo hoo white women don't love degenerates like me
No shit pajeet. Go back to your own country, not only will your offspring be healthier, and not only will the women there like you more, but you also will not ruin the genes of innocent brainwashed whites

how old are you?

Checked. This user is spot on, looks do matter but only to the extent that you let them matter to yourself. Occasionally you will see some average or even ugly looking guy with hot girls and just these few cases should be enough to prove to you that game trumps all
OP I recommend pairing nofap with mindfulness meditation, try doing 10-20 mins daily. It stops you from being in your head making excuses and makes you smooth as fuck with women. If you need some inner game help google rsd tyler, he's not a typical pick up artist and is legit as fuck, really helped me realise what makes a guy attractive

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1 Jerking off has no effect on how much you wanna fuck. I jacked off to some anal vore on e621 last night and am expecting a Tinder fuck buddy to come over in 3 hours AND have a date about 4 hours after that

2. No. Just fucking no. Unless you got pics to back this up I'm calling LARP. Tinder girls are 1 thing. No woman goes to the mall looking for guys. The only ones that will accept you are underages and uggos. Anyone else will just look at you weird waiting for you to go away. Unless of course you are an utter Chad in terms of looks, but I highly doubt that

3. Fair advice. Would recommend trying Tinder instead

OP, I'll be your gymbro masc bf (no homo).

>The only ones that will accept you are underages and uggos
There's nothing wrong with this

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Believe whatever makes you happy.

I tried tinder, In my experience the girls are after validation. My friends have success with it but day game works best for me.

I picked up my last girl in a supermarket and the one before that I met in the street.

Accuracy by volume m8
All of the people here giving you good advice have had their shit rekt and embarrassed plenty of times
They experimented with different approaches over and over until they found something that works for them
And the only way to find yours is exactly that, dont worry about success, see it as an experiment

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based

Read "Pickup Artist Bible" by Brett Hunter. 1st section is about improving/enhancing yourself including communication tips. Sections 2 and 3 are about meeting and scoring women.

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>tfw antisocial but still require human interaction
there is no cure

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That you in the pic? Maybe girls are scared of you.

get tinder, talk to girls like an absolutely sleezy chad just to get used to it

most girls are just as fuckin horny man, its like being awakened in the fucking matrix once you clock on that most of them will react the same way to being flirted with, it's so fucking easy it's comical that barely anyone i know takes advantage of it

>Did u know that women can orgasm without any physical contact?

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