>fell for the low carb meme
>always feel like shit
>start eating lots of carbs again
>feel 100x better physically and mentally
Fell for the low carb meme
if you're active carbs are very helpful. The trick is to stay away from simple carbs besides a bit of fruit.
>stay away from simple carbs
Why?
spikes blood glucose, increases insulin resistance, makes you jack off to traps
god you guys have no idea what health science is or any of the bullshit youre spouting.
there is a reason why athletes eat lots of carbs. carbs are needed if you want muscle.
>spikes blood glucose
But that's a good thing if I'm going to work out.
>increases insulin resistance
Only if you're a fatty.
>makes you jack off to traps
I already do that.
>health science
athletes need carbs because they are doing a shit ton of cardio while training, and you don't need to eat candy if you are working out 3 hours per week, which is half of fit
>there is a reason why athletes eat lots of carbs. carbs are needed if you want muscle.
Do you consider yourself an athlete?
Fun fact: literal candy spikes my blood sugar less than an equivalent amount of carbohydrates from white rice. Nothing wrong with higher carb diets, but not all carb sources raise blood sugar even close to equally (oats vs grits, whole grain bread vs white bread). Have fun getting/staying fat if you think this doesn't matter, otherwise time your high glycemic carbs appropriately if you insist upon them.
That has to be a volume problem or something else you ate simultaneously, I can't imagine actual sugar being less of a blood glucose spike than rice which is a slightly more complex carb. Could also be activity levels before/after each of those meals
>fasted for 16 hours
>eat 50g carbohydrate
>be sedentary for 2 hours
>take glucose reading
No problems here, senpai. I've tested a number of things by this protocol, it's been eye opening.
My family eats a lot of rice like 3 to 5 times a week we have a big bowl of rice with our food. I am 5'9 and 128 lbs and I am skinny everywhere except my belly feels fat. I dont anterior pelvic tilt either. Should I try a low card diet to see if it helps my belly fat? I dont really want to lose more weight since I am a skelly already.
I mean if nothing else I am impressed by your autism. Are you type 1 or something?
You're borderline underweight, just lift big and eat big. Low carb, high carb, doesn't matter right now - you need calories and sufficient protein.
If you go high carb, maybe try brown rice or sweet potato instead. Oats, beans, quinoa, etc - better carb choices.
If you go low carb, my only caveat is to avoid vegetable oils. Don't OD on PB. Don't listen to these memesters, plenty of old school BBers got jacked on low carb - they called it "the steak and eggs diet" back then.
No, I was just curious why low carb always gave me good results but high carb had mixed results - turns out there's a lot going on under the hood with carbohydrate source. Maybe I'm more sensitive to this stuff than others, but I doubt it, I've read many similar anecdotes.
>carbs are needed if you want muscle
Fucking kek, no kid.
Protein and calories are needed if you want muscle. Imagine calling people out for “no idea what health science is or any of the bullshit youre spouting” meanwhile you yourself are the biggest dumb cunt in the thread. Embarrassing.
athletes need carbs because they are the superior source of energy, furthermore carbs improve thyroid function and replenish glycogen stores the fastest, they also preserve nitrogen balance and blunt muscle protein breakdown the almost as much as protein does.
protein and calories are needed for building muscle, but carbs are the superior source of calories, carbs spare protein and muscle in ways fats cannot, as such fats are the inferior fuel source for people with athletic goals.
>carbs spare protein
what?
also fats are the chief fuel source for all endurance activity. Which is important to some athletes.
carbs blunt gluconeogenesis, which is a catabolic metabolic process that breaks down muscle proteins in order for their amino acids to be metabolized
fats don't do this
carbs are used in the clearing of amonia from protein metabolism(breakdown), and literally turn waste metabolites into certain amino acids
fats don't do this
carbs also replenish gylcogen stores very fast and having plenty of glycogen in your muscles gives them a more anabolic enviroment
fats dont do this
carbs spike insulin just like protein does, but carbs can make insulin go up for longer, and insulin is anabolic since it promotes the entering of nutrients into all human cells.
fats dont do this
>fats are the chief fuel source for all endurance activity
You have fat in you already, there is 0 need to eat mostly fat, most people have enormous ammount of energy in their fat stores even if they're lean, like dozens of thousands of calories.
>carbs are the superior source of calories
4calories per gram compared with 9 calories per gram for fat. Lmao.
Carbs provide more energy readily available and are less adipogenic than fats since fats are stored first and then released slowly overtime.
Thus carbs are indeed the ideal source of energy.
Fats simply provide that, fat.
Bro catabolism of muscle protein is in no way a requirement of gluconeogenesis, that's a pretty unusual source for it in fact if you are getting an excess of calories. Breakdown of muscle tissue is also necessary and paired with the growth of muscle tissue (if it's a response to resistance exercise) as long as protein synthesis rates are higher than protein degradation rates.
Gbuconeogensis only becomes catabolic if there is insufficent dietary protein.
Recycling of amino acids is done reguardless if carbs are present or not
Glycogen is only useful for short bursts of energy, fatty acids are superior for everything else
Insulin spikes lead to inhibition of lipolysis and encourage fatty acid synthesis. Whereas glucagon ecourages loplysis and decreases fatty acid sythesis while simolutanously increasing hgh to preserve lean muscle mass.
Your body can only store 2000calories worth of glygogen, your body can store 100,000s of calories worth of fat.... its like having a 1 litre and 50 litre fuel tank in your car, the 1litre is filled with diesel and the 50 litre is filled with petrol, then you proclaim that your car prefers to run on diesel. Stupid.
I also forgot to add, gluconeogenesis isn't solely reliant upon protein either, it can also use the glycerol backbone from the breadown of triglycerides to create glucose.
Breakdown of muscle proteins is necessary since some muscle proteins need to be remodelled, but breakdown of muscle proteins goes UP when carb intake goes down, protein intake can replace carb intake somewhat, but this clearly shows that carbs are anti catabolic which we have already known for decades.
Gluconeogenesis requires the metabolism of metabolites released from muscle proteins in their majority, as such classifying it as a catabolic metabolic process is more than accurate.
If carbs spare protein and fats do not, carbs the superior source of calories.
Sure if you eat 300g of protein or more daily you won't need to eat carbs, but is this ideal?
Definitely not, since a good chunk of that protein is going straight into glucose metabolism, you're essentially eating expensive sugar.
>Recycling of amino acids is done reguardless if carbs are present or not
Carbs upregulate it though.
Carbs also improve nutrient recycling in general, it's not just amino acids but also vitamins and specially minerals.
>glycogen is only useful for short bursts of energy
And constant brain activity, and the more glucose you have available the more they are used for any sort of physical activity.
>Insulin spikes lead to inhibition of lipolysis
It doesn't, the adipogenic insulin hypothesis has been debunked by metabolic ward experiments already, just the act of being alive gives you all of the adipogenic effects of insulin, spiking it in natural ranges does nothing to blunt fat burning.
academic.oup.com
>Whereas glucagon ecourages loplysis and decreases fatty acid sythesis while simolutanously increasing hgh to preserve lean muscle mass.
you can't just look at specific hormones and assume your body is this or that, for example HGH is not anabolic for skeletal muscle tissue even if injected, it just promotes greater accumulation of lean mass, which most of it being water, and the rest being organ and tendon/bone density.
Fats you eat require 0 hormonal interaction in order to be stored as fat.
>Your body can only store 2000calories worth of glygogen, your body can store 100,000s of calories worth of fat....
The point of this is to AVOID storing fat while building as much muscle as possible though, are you lost? This is a fitness board not a WW3 survival prep board.
Glucose can be metabolized into glycogen AND fatty acids, so it has more than one " tank", it literally is more versatile than fat.
Glucose is broken down into triglycerides so I guess it is not an issue, furthermore the vast majority of the metabolites used in gluconeogenesis are protein derived in humans.
100g of protein are required to produce 50-60g of glucose.
You need to do more reading, i suggest actual medical books, rather than livestrong and blogs.
Let the amount of food stay the same and do more sport.
>0 arguments
>"you need to read a book, or two"
ok
now this is epic
Projection much?
All I've stated is confirmed by traditional conventional medical knowledge and put into practise in metabolic ward experiments and case studies and dietary/exercise trials interventions.
This is bait, right?
Insulin resistance has nothing to do with bodyfat, just your insulin spikes from simple carb (easily transcoded to sugar) intake.
>t. Actual t1d diabetic.
Also, it is not good as insulin resistance makes You less probable to have glycogenic muscles, as insulin is the key to actually use carbs as energy in muscles.
You're dumb.
>insulin resistance has nothing to do with bodyfat
fatty cope
also you obviously have no idea how insulin resistance occurs, it is not by rising insulin that you get resistant to insulin lmao
how FAT you are and the ammount of lipids in your blood and organs and muscles affect how you respond to insulin
Caloric excess itself as well causes insulin resistance.
You can be insulin resistant while eating a ketogenic diet, in fact that's what happens to almost every single person that follows such a diet, they become basically intolerant to dietary carbs because the body tries to preserve a blood glucose balance, and by making insulin sensitivity worse glucose is less mobilized from the blood, and when they do spike their insulin by eating some carbs they suffer ill effects.
This is the keto/low carb trap that almost every single poor soul goes through.
They intentionally made themselves insulin resistant.
T1 and T2 diabetics have used high carb diets with great success, it clearly is not as simple as you make it out to be.
As long as people avoid caloric excess and getting fat, diabetes is easily managed.
laurenbongiorno.com
diabetesstrong.com
so longnas you get your protons, your carbs and fats dont really matter