Natty lifters let me save you some time

Well I don’t keep many progress photos but I don’t care if you don’t believe me. You can do this if you apply yourself. And honestly, fasting is a cheat code for fitness.

mirin, can you explain a little more about fasting? also whats your height?

But how is fasting a cheat code if you are a skelly? I started lifting 3 years ago at 110lbs, which I had been most of my life. I'm up to 160lbs with decent results, but nothing like your 6 months results. Basically I'm saying you were already in shape (good build, not a skelly, not a fatty) and then you started training and eating right.

i as a natty wouldnt get to where you are in 10 years. the universe will not allow it. so i will cheat

this is 7 months of excercising 3 times a week with full body workout and a strict diet, that was actually around 2600 calories.

So not sure user, perhaps you just have bad genetics, or your workout is crap. I for one always do reps to failure, and if I can go above 13 reps, I increase the weight. Seems to be working out for me.

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First I was not in good shape. This was me not too long ago. I wasn’t this big when I started fasting but I was starting to return to it. And I’m 5’6 so I’m kinda short.

At first when I wasn’t lifting I was doing 18 hour fasts with the occasional 48 hour fast but as I started lifting I switched to a 18 hour fast daily. When I wanted to start cutting to show more progress I did a 18 hour fast on workout days which involves full body and fasting the next day until my next workout in the morning which meant I was fasted for 36ish hours before the gym and ate my first meal after.

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i eat 3000 calories a day, I've done everything from a 5 rep range to a 12.
ive done literally everything necessary to progress. and yet i can still only lift 1 pl8 on bench.
doesnt matter what i do. i cant get fit

I keep telling myself i'm doing this for the health benefits, and that roids are contrary to that, but damn its tempting.. you only live once

this cope

While I agree that this isn't "good shape", it certainly isn't bad. Your not under or overweight with good build for your size.
Seriously, your non trained body looks more Jow Forums than OP's picture. Your telling skellys they can make it in 6-9 months, which simply ins't true.

oh right, I am naturally skelly mode so fasting wouldnt work for me i think, id just lose any muscle mass i have lol

>apex predator in all ecosystems where it resides
>inferior
Pick one, and only one.

hadnt touched a weight in his life and still looked better than me after 2 fucking god damn years of lifting.
wasted my time. 2 years of my life gone.
if i cant get a hold of some steroid, i will just gorge myself on pizza and become a fat ass, because there is no other option for me

either you have the worst genetics of all time, don't work out hard enough, or diet is absolute crap, i'd be willing to bet its a combo of the last 2

For some it might be just genetics. What you do is just accept you have a hard time building muscle and work with what you have. The way you look is definately better than being a fat slob. You might not go full Baine, but that's allright. Just verify if you're doing everything right and your workout is good before you blame genetics. 3000cal for some guys is still not enough. You look pretty slim, try increasing calories until you see you're actually putting on fat. Then you'll know where is your limit.

For me 2600 was a bulking amount because I kept starving myslef for years so my basic metabolic rate is completely fucked. And also my arms, which are the only decent looking part if you ask me, I made using 9kg dumbbells and just doing Arnod's 7s for bicep and cables for triceps. That is literally all I did. And I kill myself for a good chest, and still end up with minimal progress.

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Or you guys could lift and exercise to not feel like a piece of shit 24/7 and use it as a keystone habit to create at least one point of stability in your sad and aimless lives and use the discipline you've gained from sticking with exercise in order to improve other aspects of your life. Or fuck it do steroids and take the easy way out like you've been doing your whole life. The only point in exercising is looking like a space marine right?!

You look like shit man

Well maybe not any day long fast but some studies have shown fasted weight training increases HGH which at worst preserves your muscle and at best can actually help you increase muscle mass.
As long as you get enough food that is.

Sure, but that's half a year, never had any weightlifting experience and I was a skinnyfat earier so I was working literally from 0. Long way left to go, but for half a year of working out, I think it's not that bad. And honestly, the weird part is that it is good enough to get hit on by more girls than ever before.

you look great and like a normal person. i would kill to look like you. if i could even get to this level i would be satisfied.
but i never ever will

Now this simply isn't true. Your build and genetics may be against you, but the sticky is correct.
Track your calories, EVERY SINGLE DAY. OVEREAT. Trust me. I was eating 4000 calories about a year into my "gains" and developed quite a gut while not making great progress on muscles gains. This lesson showed me I was actually growing, but muscle growth takes time, especially when you are a skelly. Your body is going to grow slowly and linearly, unless you over or under eat. Its going to take real time and dedication (unless you roid). Just stick with it, track it, be dedicated. 3 days, real workouts, EVERY WEEK. 3000 Calories, every single day. Do it!

This. I have a similar body like him and I reached that after 3-4 years.
10 kg muscles as a natty in the first year? No problem, after that you fight hard to get 2 kg musclemass a year, if you are genetically gifted.

Even with the best workout and best nutrition known to man, without any sports background you don't look like that in 2 years. He probably did gymnastic stuff before and THEN started lifting, in that case, 2 years are believable natty.

why did no one ask how tall he was? everyone knows lanklets have a harder time building muscle than manlets

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lmaooo. what are those genetics hahah. 2 years for you mate. 3 months for most.

he looks really little, i think thats a towel rack behind him

Thanks user, but seriously, just set yourself goals and keep working towards them. Consult professionals if you're stuck. For some the road indeed is longer and harder than others, but I think everyone can get what they want. At least when it comes to weightlifting and if you're not going to go for a monster ripped look.
Chin up, man

All that and you can only lift one pl8 bench? You have even shittier genes than me, and I'm certified low t.
I hit 1pl8 after 4 months on a MASSIVE cut, think 1200 kcal a day, mostly broccoli and Greek yogurt, and lost almost 20 kg in the process.
You either have terrible genes the likes of which is almost impossible (as I said I have certified shit genes) or you're doing something very, very VERY wrong.

No. The only physical training I did before that year was Marine Corps PT and if you know anything about that you know it’s inefficient for any kind of gains or even weight loss.

This is me man, I started in December and here I am now.

100% you’re the ear guy from the plastic surgery thread

Hi.

He cute!

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just lol this is what lifting light weight and eating salad everyday looks like

For you guys who are feeling boy, I'm gonna put myself on blast. This is me (regrettably) from 2014-NOW. For me it's enormous progress, I feel great, bigger and stronger than I have been in my entire life, but for others they will laugh it off as meager and shit. Skelly mode and malnutrition is a hard climb.

The only excuses I can make for myself are not sticking to a strict gym routine (during a year I was working two jobs and going to school, hardly hit the gym that year) and backpacking in between these times, which usually resulted in me losing 10 lbs easy from my 160lb frame, multiple times lol. Anyhow, don't feel bad. If you stick with it you will get result, even if you COMPLETELY half ass it like me.

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Stop baka

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Been doing about 5 months of ppl without strength training prior and I look better than you.

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but you looks great. Stop using as a standard nibbas on movies, they are never natty. For a normie girl you looks like a greek god

>because I kept starving myslef for years so my basic metabolic rate is completely fucked
>t. soccer mom

yep, and the faggot still wont show his face

Holy cringe that’s not less than one year and if it is then you won’t be getting much bigger. You’re done

Never mind, it’s just lighting. Neck yourself nigger

What’s your problem?

Also cope harder

>cope harder
I forgot this place is full of DYEL’s he’s no more than 180 lbs which is DYEL

Not everyone lifts to get the big numbers. Aesthetic lifting is a thing.

thats pretty good tho?
our standards have gotten far too high, were not all super models. you definitely look like you lift bro and 99% of girls would prefer you over other body types. plus youre prolly strong as fuck

According to the natty limit chart that is about the weight limit for me as a 5'8' male

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i look a lot better afte 1 year.
OP confirmed faggot

Ah yes, that sweet honeymoonphase of noobgains. You still look bad and your progress will slow down extremely in about 2 to 3 months. Enjoy it while it lasts

> what are shoulder exercises

Y-you don’t look better in any of those pics

Laughing at the gut you're sucking in

you right lol

Not sucking in but keep finding excuses why you’re not making it.

i do squats low and high bar, OHP, side lateral raises front raises, i also did bodyweight + weights for a time but volume was too much.
i do behind the head dumbell tricep extensions, bilateral tricep kickbacks. weighted dips with chains, pullups, chin ups.
my warmup set is 50 pushups for 3 sets on chest day plus some other shit.
im 5'8 135lbs.
my diet looks like this.
breakfast
>6 eggs fried, 1 bowl oatmeal, 2 peanutbutter sandwiches on ezekiel bread
lunch
>3 cups rice, 1 can black beans, 2 avocado, 2 bananas, 2 cups organic stonyfield cottage cheese
dinner
>2 chicken breasts 3 cups broccoli, 2 cups organic greek yogurt plain stonyfield

thats what i eat every day. i say 3000 calories but its more than that, im just not sure how much more.
i also eat random shit on top of all that every day, anything i can find. sometimes i add entire meals on top of all that when i go out to eat.
i have no tapeworm. no physical problems, no diseases of any kind.
i am not gaining weight. and if i somehow manage to do so, its of fat.

In 90 days I've gone from skinny fat alcoholic to normal looking human bean. Completely cut out booze and sugar/fast food from diet. Gym 5 days a week. No real routine, just 30 mins on bike and then random lifts. I'm too scatter brained to follow a program.
>6'3
>200lbs
I haven't really lost any weight, but I've gone from a 38 waist to a 34. Arms look bigger, for sure. I don't eat from about 8pm-3pm. I feel like OP says, though. Natty is going to be a long fucking haul to look anything close to impressive. I just don't want to look like a fat piece of shit. Are steroids really that bad for you?

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Fasting is a TERRIBLE idea if you're skelly. Even if you're a hambeast it isn't optimal, but as a skelly, you have hardly any fat and hardly any muscle. Fasting will chew up the little muscle you have. Don't believe the meme that it's muscle sparing.

This has to be a shit post, I'm just over a year and look better

Nice bait man, i started out skinny fat with a shitty frame this is 8 months of lifting at home with one dumbell and some calisthenics.

176 cm 65kg

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yikes

>how to lose abs and vascularity in 5 years

you literally already had all your gains in that first shot and then you just packed varying amounts of fat on top over the years. what's especially baffling is that you started out with decent pecs and they never got bigger. wtf kind of exercises did you even do? no pushups, no bench?

I sincerely hope you're baiting...
Even when you flex there's nothing lol

seems like Jow Forums is brainwashed into thinking that unless you are roided out, you are a dyel

still hella skinnyfat. Fuck my wide hips.
Started consistently doing daily calisthenics for about 1.5 months now. Mostly I do dips but I'm going to get a pull up bar so I can balance out the pulling. Right now I go to an elementary school to do pull ups on the monkey bars at night.

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post body, not flexing

mate, I'm at 1 month 2 weeks of SS and I look like that. You are slacking, plain and simple.

Why do you fags think shaving your chest makes you look better

What the actual fuck are you playing at, user?

>grow your hair out guys its mega chad!

Well in that case i don't care what you have to say lmao, this cocksucka

No worries, baldlet. Stem cells to regenerate hair growing cells soon. You don't need to cope so hard.

>caring about hair this much

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Keep cracking open those copea colas.

i cant grow chest hair or a beard.

OP here. this is me flexing.
my first post me is not flexing.
i want to look good without needing to flex. but this is impossible as a natty

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You just have poop genetics m8.

keep telling yourself it looks good lol im actually trying to help you

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At least you don't have puffy nipples like me, and will never look like a fatty despite having abs.
Just fucking kill me already.

so then steroids is my only option

Pic related is 2.5 years progress at 6'4" with low test, no sports history

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imagine not being able to rep 1pl8 bench like 30 times

you're just a pathetic loser with shit genes

im 5'8. im OP. you look awesome mate.
i cant get this ever so im drunnk rigte now and an going to become a fatass

>cico cuck

That looks like me now at 6 months. What have you been doing?

4 years natty.

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stop. wearing. gloves. you. fucking. pussy.

you can do a lot natty but i bet you my left kidney that most people here have a shitty diet and plan.

Also, I´m thinking about taking gear coz there IS a limit. Most Jow Forums dudes will never even come close to reaching it though...

>pic related is what 2 years of working out and eating a strict diet looks like.
I can't help but think that you're either lying, or your diet and workout routine isn't as "strict" as you think it is. What is your routine?

Your lifts?

You dont have thick hips

i bench twice a week. i started at 3x8, it did nothing and ended up making me weaker.
so i switched to 5x5.
i do incline dumbbell press, flat bench, lowbar and highbar squats.
my deadlift cant progress past 220lbs..
my squat is 155. i have chicken legs.
i do weighted pullups and chinups, i have a 25lb vest i wear and i do pushups every day with those (i feel nothing when i do).
i did abs every single day in circuit training.
ive tried adding bodyweight exercises into my weight training.
i stopped doing cardio completely.
i also do periodization (just started that).

nothing works. not PPL. not SS. not GOMAD. not a regular bro split. not full body.
nothing. doesnt matter how many reps or sets, doesnt matter the time under tension. doesnt matter if im eating in a caloric surplus or not..
the universe has blocked me from achieving anything. me alone. no one else in the fucking world has these problems, not anybody.
so ill either kms or ill go on roids. i will almost certainly still look like shit if i roid, and everything that can go wrong will go wrong, so all my hair WILL fall out, and my dick WILL shrivel into a raisin..