Can somebody tell me how 800m runners have such small legs?
I tried to run a 2:15 800m pace today and my legs are literally not strong enough to keep up with the stride length. I squat 345 for reps yet this guy (Who has smaller legs than me) has infinitely more leg strength than me? How???
does anybody know if 800m runners incorporate weight training?
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>Can somebody tell me how 800m runners have such small legs?
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>I tried to run a 2:15 800m pace today and my legs are literally not strong enough to keep up with the stride length. I squat 345 for reps yet this guy (Who has smaller legs than me) has infinitely more leg strength than me? How???
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>does anybody know if 800m runners incorporate weight training?
it's not the squats it's the heart that matters, user.
not strength, he has more endurance than you. strength and endurance are different.
Anyway, its mostly genetic. East Africans like Ethiopians tend to be skinny as fuck and pretty good at long distance.
It is all about the weight/power ratio. you're strong, but you're way too heavy also.
>190cm
>small legs
Fast-twitch muscle fibers. Relative strength over maximal strength. It's also why a lot of fighters could be lanky and would still punch/kick much faster with much more force than you could.
It's about endurance and running economy.
False senpai.
Guys like khabib, yoel and tyron will always be stronger the 'relative strength guys'.
Most guys look and fight a certain way because they are built a certain way.
As for op's question, the top sprinters can barely sprint 200m,
You have to be fit as fuck to put up a good 800 meter time.
Marathon runners weigh like 2kg so they're muscles aren't doing to same amount of work
Cardio kills gains.
he's saying that he can't move that fast, not that he can't keep it up
>posts a can crusher who will soon be exposed
Based
his legs are proportioned to his arms and torso.
Let me guess, you're a manlet with a long upper body
It’s slow twice vs fast twitch fibers. Most distance runners are not super tall either. I was the tallest teammate for our distance team and I’m 5’10”. Our two fastest were 2 blacks twins that were like 5’3” that ran 800s in ~1:53
Yes when I was running for college we lifted 1-2 times a week. Had circuit training for core strength too. That coupled with 75+ miles a week. Saturday’s were long run days for ~13 miles.
School was in the NAIA so we weren’t anywhere near D1 or anything but we competed and did well in our league.
My PRs were
27:50 for 8k
17:30 for 5k
4:40 for mile
4:24 1500 (indoors)
2:02 800
0:53 for 400x4 (I was shit at this)
Pic related
Look at this shit, you know damn well I did better at running than football.
catabolism
If you had them do the NFL Combine jumping Test they’d probably score pretty high, just because they’re much more explosive than most people. You clearly aren’t, and there isn’t really much that you can do about that. You could do cleans to make sure your extra muscle doesn’t make you slower, but the maximum speed at which you can apply force is just genetic.
Also having small calves and to some extent legs in general is really helpful for running, due to the higher centre of mass and lower force required to move your legs
Better heart
>distance runners
>explosive
>I tried to run a 2:15 800m pace today and my legs are literally not strong enough to keep up with the stride length.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how running fast works
Taller people aren't faster than shorter people, it's about the leg lengths to weight ratio.
Tall people will have bigger strides, but they will have more weight to move than a short person with the same build, so they have a lower cadence.
I'm short as fuck, and 180 steps/minute is around a 10 minute mile for me.
T. Amerifat that thinks 800m is distance
>meters
>not a measure of distance
It literally is you fuck, not a power event at all.
you're 400 is your best race wtf are you talking about?
also is it possible to run in college and also be aesthetic? im deciding whether to or not rn
It isn't muscle, it's your cardio and vo2 max, dummy. Do any of these guys look like they squat heavy weights? 800m is still a primarily aerobic race - roughly 60/40 aerobic to anaerobic. Your body has to be efficient in using glucose or you're gonna get lactic acid buildup the last 200m, no matter how strong your legs are. Anything under 580m is mostly anaerobic.
Mine were
>35:05 10k
>28:40 8k (ran faster 8k split in the 10k)
>16:50 5k
>4:46 mile
>2:10 800m
Your other times suggest your 5k should have been faster
forgot to say I only ran a year of college track, so those are all freshman times
>800m
>endurance
That's endurance for Americans, don't bully them.
sprinters have small legs too
you think some powerlifter is going to win a 100m race
Are you guys clueless or merely pretending to be retarded?
Weightlifters actually have pretty good sprint times, weight classes obviously make them non-competitive, but they aren't bad at it.
t. endurancelet
its middle distance you nignog, look up Alan Webb or takoufi makhloufi (idk wtf his name is)
this is off topic but is there an event where people compete for a combination of power and endurance?
like 50% marathon time and 50% squat/bench /deadlift numbers?
what kind of athlete would win such an event?
Middle distance is still endurance you cuck
Decathlon
I wasn't saying it isn't, did you look either of them up? makhloufi can squat more than 99% of Jow Forums
I always did better in mile and two mile.
I never felt like a 400, dudes would consistently run sub 50s so I never felt competitive.
Yeah you can be aesthetic. I had soccer and volleyball girls that I fucked with. It was a super liberal college so most of the men were plump or skinnyfat with anime/video game tattoos. Being fit in college in any sport means you’re above the majority of the student body. The only ones you can’t compete with are the basketball starters. Tall mofuckas
Pic related was when I was 22 a few months after I graduated, granted a started lifting more once I was done with athletics.
You have some impressive times. Your longer distance races are definitely a higher level than mine.
Yeah well you know when you’re in cross country you get a fast course or a slow course depending on hills/incline/sharp turns/whateverthefuck
I know my 5k should have been faster. Most of my training was for mile and two mile. 10:20 was my 3200
Yeah I could definitely never run your 400/800 times, just different strengths. I was doing lots of 15-20 mi long runs and had plans to do an ultra before I quit running. There's always time I guess
>endurance athletes
>training full squats
"No!"
And who gives a shit? The point is still that they are entirely different skill sets and having huge, explosive musculature != good distance times.
That guy can probably squat 150-200 max. No one body type is capable of extraordinary performance in all arenas. Just look at Olympic decathlon times/ marks vs records in the individual events
theres literally a video of him squatting on youtube
im an endurance athlete and I train full squats twice a week
cool im looking at only super liberal colleges for running but hopefully the girls won't be ugly too haha
Former Division 1 runner (though, granted, 5k/10k specialist) and I have run sub 2 for 800m, so maybe I can offer some help here.
1) strength to weight ratio is something you guys probably don't think about, but it's incredible how strong a skinny guy can be if he trains for it.
2) you're confusing strength with power. Your ORM isn't going to be a factor as much as, say, how fast you can do a moderately heavy load with good form. Things like plyometrics/box jumping/hill sprinting are useful here as well.
3) he's moving a lot less weight than you do. The force it would take to move you twice around a track that fast is much greater than the force it takes to move him.
They are skinny partly because of genetics, but also because they live an agrarian lifestyle. For distance running in particular, they are born and train and live at altitude, they are running for financial security, it is deeply rooted in their culture so their motivation is high, they are identified as having talent at a young age, and if I'm being cynical I must point out that the East African dominance in track has slipped ever since the IOC started instituting the same level of random drug tests out there that we have here in the US, Europe, and Japan (also a big marathoning powerhouse).
This matters, A LOT.
That's actually pretty solid training for NAIA guys, am impressed.
Next to sprinters? Of course not. Next to most lifters? Oh, they absolutely are.
Aesthetic by Jow Forums or by normie standards?
El G would routinely do insane volume with 2plate squat for explosiveness, and weighed under 150.
normie
when you say el g do you mean el gerrouj?
sorry I mean normie standards
How fat are you that you think 800 meters counts as "distance"?
cardio kills gains.
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>hurrdurr what is relative strength
Are you this stupid?
You're comparing smaller fighters with heavier fighters. Of course it'd matter in that case. Khabib, Yoel, and Tyron are ALL "relative strength guys," they just have more muscle mass and weight, and they most likely trained their maximal strength for grappling. That said, a professional welterweight kickboxer will still have more kicking power than a 230 lb. lifter with little experience in martial arts.
Don't be pedantic. 800 specialists training has more in common with a 10k runner than a sprinter
>800m
>long distance
Long distance cut off is 1500, hambeast.
indians and the sub indians are the most NPC people in existence
*ketones
Well they're basically unrefined whitoids, so yeah.
A lot of these lanky facial fighters have really strong jaws/facial features. you dont see any small chinned weak chinned dudes fighting in the ring