Social Gains

>he doesn't have orgies with mom and auntie
Never gonna make it

Thanks fren, will try

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>eye contact but don't make it creepy
>good posture
>smile a lot but in a natural way, not in a creepy way
>don't be afraid to have your own opinions, challenge hers instead of being a yes-man in fear of upsetting her
The last point is probably the most important one. So many people pussyfoot around women in conversations because they don't want to give a bad impression, when ironically enough doing so they are giving a bad impression; a spineless impression. You know how people tell you to just b urself? That's what they actually mean. Don't be afraid to have your own opinions, otherwise you'll just come off as boring and without personality

>like ohmygod I saw that movie and it was sooo good
>haha yeah it was pretty good
>and did you hear about X? Like what the fuck?
>I know right what's up with that
then this nigger thinks "phew that went well I didn't make a fool of myself, no stuttering and no wrong opinions" when he was boring as fuck without any personality, the most uninteresting person ever and it was a fucking disaster

LITERALLY JUST B URSELF

>serial harrasser arrested in local mall
>today a self-professed "incel" was arrested following accusations of serial sexual harrasment. The man is alleged to have been harassing women every weekend for the last 3 weeks in the [local mall]. When questioned about his actions he said he was "grinding his social gains" for the purpose of "getting stacies".

Yeah just talk as much as possible to cashiers/cabbies etc, eventually it becomes easy.

Thanks user, appreciate the advice

This was made exactly for guys like you

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>Post social gains workout the sticky didn't have any
not being a faggot

How do sets/reps works? I have to leave my house on 3 separate occasions for 5 something?

>3 x F
>3 x 5
what does this means?

DYEL?
Leave the house 3 different times until you can't handle being away from home/you need to get go back home (training until failure)

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That's kinda stupid and wasteful, but ok. What about 3x5? 3, 5 minute conversations?

It's put in a workout format for a joke, 3 sets of starting of 5 different convos (length should be whatever feels natural)

3 sets until failure
3 sets of five reps

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>26 year old khv
>have no problem making people laugh, literally all day every day at work i make people laugh
>was the same in college, high school, etc
>still have never had friends
>always attempt to lightly flirt with girls and they arent creeped out immediately but it never goes anywhere anyway

>realize that talking to people actually pushes them away from me because of how eccentric and weird and autistic and ADD i am
>if i try to stay calm and quiet on purpose, people ask if im sick and whats wrong with me so i push people away that way as well

holy shit this is so accurate

I was abused and neglected as a child. I have almost no memories until around age 18. Life was mental fog, I was like a zombie. I'm 23 now, have a well-paying managerial job. I live on my own and I am not in contact with my family. Because of the years of mental fog, I don't really have many friends. There just aren't any shared memories with people. I didn't really do anything growing up, I didn't talk to anyone at school. How do I start to make friends with people when my time in school is gone and I have no childhood memories?

There must be a way. People move out of state and leave everyone they grew up with. I started going to church in my community, which has been a great help.

Keep going to church, volunteer, join a casual sports league

How do I turn acquaintances into friends? It's more difficult here in the suburbs. I don't see a lot of young people. A lot of people I went to high school with went away for college.

Say I start talking to a guy my age at church this Sunday. How do I go from acquaintance to friend that does things outside of church?

You gotta be a friend to get a friend.
Invite him to do stuff.
Offer to help with shit.
Etc.

Don't dox me bro

I know this feel

I know this feel to well.

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this

Do eet! A nod and a smile from a stranger is hard to come by. People will think of you as extra approachable

Just talk to him everytime you see in the Church.
He'll ask you to join for a game and beer with his friends (if he has any)
Or you can ask and go to some local sports bar.

delet this

I am thinking about joining a gymnastic club, which should be full of ladies. I just have to fix my hygiene a bit and not be paralyzed by my social anxiety.

tfw 25 years old kissless friendless virgin

How do I make friends in college?

How do I meet girls and get a gf in college?

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>saying "hey beautiful" to random people on the street
are you fucking aautistic

do you actually go to the gym or workout at all?

What if i cant even complete on rep?

tfw no tomboy gf

s-sauce?

Post the article for proofsies

Are you retarded?

are you enjoying your first week on Jow Forums friendo? :)

Wish i had a casca gf

I'm not socially retarded.
I've had friends.
I'm socially TRANSCENDED.
I am Crom.

>x f
Reached on the first rep, should I do negatives?

You're asking a good question man. Talking to people isn't hard for me, but making a connection with them is. What have you tried so far, user?

>tfw no pre-eclipse casca gf

>ladies you are looking good tonight!

I find if you're physically attractive people don't care if you're socially retarded.

With girls if I'm into them I've started by letting them now I think they're pretty from the get go and I've been trying to meet new people via clubs and events at school. Talking to them is okay for me too but it's been so long since I had a real connection with someone. It's really isolating and I keep thinking about my ex so I'm trying to find a new woman

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>ywn have a casca gf
WAKE ME UP INSIDE

RREEEEEEEEEE

When I was a kid I got bullied and called gay so much (I moved from a city that has a lot of gays) that whenever someone talks about something being gay I blush. Is there any way to help this? I'm cool with being a complete autist otherwise but this is legitimately crippling

Haha you fucking closet homosexual gay

>What good is being muscular if your socially retarted
What good is being muscular if you're socially gifted?

If I was gay I wouldn't be closeted, it's basically an advantage to be gay in today's world

And then walk away

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Not ugly but I’m beta as fuck when I’m out of my house. I don’t go out unless I absolutely have to and I don’t have people to hang out with. I sound really fake and weird when I talk to people. Being socially retarded is probably much worse for guys though.

This HAS to be bait. Otherwise I'm literally buying this site and permabanning your ass

>yep, still got it

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>"good morning!"
>"hey beautiful!"

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When you started lifting, you couldn't lift shit, but you did it anyway.
You lifted and lifted and lifted, small weights, medium weights, heavy weight.

Same goes for socialising. You will fail a lot at first but that's how you learn.
It will just feel like you've wasted some opportunities in your failures, but that's why you aim for chicks that aren't pretty or anything. Just aim low and learn with them.

Like rats in RPGs. You always encounter rats and hogs at first and that's how you get XP.
Go for rats, go for the hogs.

The best advice I can distill from my own experiences is to gradually increase your social exercises like you would with weights, have an activity to theme your social exercises around like work or study, observe and learn from those around you, and make it a part of something necessary in your life.

I have no friends, still don't, was about to kill myself a few years ago, but I can now sit at a table full of normies, not panic, and actually have some fun laughing or throwing banter around. There's always this shadow of constant anxiety, self-observation, planning and review to make sure I'm not sperging out too badly, and when I get home I get knots in my stomach about how I could have gone about things differently, or have more witty responses come up in my head too late, and some part of me hates coming this close to feeling normal but having to come home and be alone but

but

it's progress right..

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Are you a girl?

>girl canceled third date tn
>psycho ex gf bullying me again

I’m low on the dominance hierarchy brahs :(

How do i flirt with girls? I feel awkward always and I’m really sexually adverse

you are higher than me, cuz I don't even have dates

I just draw funny pictures with a crayon on paint and send it to them. That gets me dates somehow

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Okay, you fucking mongs. Get this through your thick fucking skulls- your personality, unless you have diagnosed ATYPICAL BRAIN CHEMISTRY, is not the problem.
You morons are essentially regurgitating the same nonsense and mantra of PUAs and redditcucks: "just be NT". But what this really is, is just the phrase "just be confident" assuming a new form and subtly confusing you all.

You don't need to have superb confidence or NTness. As long as you can hold a conversation with a girl- that is, a girl who is visibly INTERESTED in you, your personality is fine. Unless you are actually borderline retarded, your personality is FINE.

You just lost in the looks department.

Get that through your little pea sized brains, okay?

Some of you nitwits, I swear, are so fucking delusional. Just listen to yourselves. "I know this guy he's not a male model but he has a girlfriend." "Eggman got a girlfriend [for one fucking week no less] so you can too haha if you just work on your confidence!" You are literally no different than the redditcucks and neckbeards who tell us about their fat friend who pulls all the hotties because of his confidence and his funny personality.

You're not shy, you're just unattractive - and if you are shy but attractive, you're a piece of shit who's getting his dick wet but enjoys the validation he gets from sex starved incels.

You're not sub-male model, you're just UGLY.

>tfw you lucked out and married your first gf
>tfw she's your best friend and you never get tired of hanging out with her
>tfw half the reason you started getting in shape was because even though she says she loves you no matter how you look you want to look good for her

Tried this

The better I got at it the more I hate them and now I'm bad at it again

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Fuck, i can relate

When i was in uni, everyone heard of me, i was super friendly but at night, there was NOTHING, no a deep sane friendship

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Try not to get up in your head. Most people aren't thinking about every little thing you said or did when they were with you. The exceptions are if someone is in love with you or hates your guts. Then they will try to find all the hidden meanings in everything you say.

Step 1: Fix your fucking posture. It gives off lositive body language, makes you feel good, and even forces your chest open and your vocal system straightens out aytomatically causing you to speak more clearly.

Step 2: Don't speak through your nose, it makes you mumble and restricts your ability to project your voice, and if you can't project no one will listen to you

Step 3: Laugh at shit that you think is funny. Boo shit you don't like. Vocally respobding to shit in the conversation gives others an idea of your values without you needing to talk a lot.

Step 3.5: Listen more than you speak and accept that conversation is a game that is heavily turn based, and relies on only lile 3 cues for changing turns. Someone acknowledges you, its your turn. Someone looks at you while speaking, youre allowed to take one. Someone leaves a sentence open, anyone is allowed to take a turn so if you dont do it first let whoecer did take their turn and listen to them to. When it's your turn embrace it and look at the other people while you speak, half a second of eye contact is powerful stuff. You don't have to be the life of the party but you do have to mingle. If you don't know what to talk about, let the other peoe talk until they mention something you don't know. Admit you don't know and ask them to explain it, people like to teach others and even though you aren't talking much they'll think you're good to talk to.

There you go, intro to social gains. Step 1 is most important jesus christ fix your fuckin posture nobody wants to talk to someone that looks like they're trying to hide inside their own chest.

Also don't bother trying to woo people if you can't already make acquaintances. Fundamentals come before competition.

>"hey beautiful!"
Good way to get Me Too'd.

If you can't be flirtatious when you speak to women then you're in denial about how male-female relations work. You're not raping someone when you compliment them, if they wanna get huffed and puffed about it then they aren't going to be fun to hang out with anyway so fuck 'em.

good work bud

based

Starting Strength has a literal TEXTBOOK explaining all the ins and outs of the program and the basics of weight training so I think we need some more literature here.

I have a friend who's good looking and can and does pull this off.

In this case it's the opposite of Starting Strength because if it's too hard you have to actually raise the weight (find a fatter girl).

learn from your mistakes dude.

I was in the same boat and still sort of am. I will say, keep your few friends (and I mean FRIENDS, people who you trust as much or more than yourself) close. Don't be hung up on your small social failures, don't think about how many friends you should have or how much fun you should be having, etc. It does you no good and even if you do make success in social circles you will still feel inadequate, because you went into it with expectations.

What's most important is to be content with yourself in your own company. Be your own best friend. Never settle for being bored in your life, take up a hobby in between lifting, read philosophy, do only things that you can feel good about. This doesn't mean avoid social interaction; open your mind to it but don't force it. If you get to a point you are comfortable with yourself, you'll never have thoughts of loneliness clouding your mind because you will have yourself, and you'll have no issue making friends when you place yourself in the right circumstance because people naturally pick up on your healthy self-esteem

If you have antisocial tendencies chances are the issue is that you hate yourself

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You can flirt with women without saying "Hey beautiful" as the opening line in your conversation. Unless they're already attracted to you you're gonna come off as a creep.

>been slimming down pretty slowly. Not dieting, but working out
>Wear a red wings shirt to the store
>Checking out in the self checkout line
>Not many people there, but qt blackish girl asks me how I'm doing
>Which is no big deal because that's literally her job
>"You watch hockey a lot?"
>Oh yeah. Well not now at least, but yeah
>"I used to play for 8 years"
>Tell her I'm trying to learn but my finances crippled me until recently
>Some more chit chat
>"Well let me know how it goes next time i see you"
>Ha, yeah
Probably should've asked her to help me. But now i have to figure out when she's working. But hey, that's better than usual

That's why this den of inequity need to be purged

I might have a hole in my head and be retarded, but I think a cute girl was smiling at me in class, and we spoke briefly and she seems be pretty nice, I saw her outside and waved and smiled again and she did the same back.

I haven't had the chance to talk to her, but I'm more concerned if I am confusing the barest amount of common decency with attraction. Help me out fellow retards. Thanks.

>socially retarded people will actually read this and believe it then embarrass themselves
so mean

Get a job in a service industry (waiter/concierge/whatever) and put on your pleasant and bubbly service person mask.

>"Good evening guys! How are we tonight?"
>"How did you find that dish? Yeah? I love/am not sure about it too; it's got x, y, z in it and I really like how that turned out"
>"Visiting from a long way away tonight? Oh wow! I'm so glad you've come here from such a long way away!"
etc etc etc

Do this for several months, and the mask starts to feel more natural, like it's not even a mask any more...