Steroids do permanently alter the physiology of your muscles by adding more cellular nuclei. With higher nuclei content...

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3.5 grams of Tren a week

shitty

>can put a good +12-15 lbs of LEAN mass on you (excluding water and fat gain) over the course of the 15 weeks

Fuck, most people are lucky to put on that much in a year. This is the first time I've genuinely considered hopping on gear. I can't think of good reasons not to.

>Give me one good reason why everyone shouldn't just do 1 cycle in their lives
because it takes at least few cycles to permanently increase cellular nuclei and you still won't see much difference.

You would have to roid for couple of years to get visual difference you are talking about

I can't find them

The hardest part and biggest reason why you wouldn't want to roid is not being able to find a decent source to buy your stuff from

Me too. Though I've no idea where to get it.

thanks might give it a shot

If you eat correctly you can go months or possibly years without large loss of muscle mass.
That's how they go back into it.

This, cant find any anywhere. Any alternatives, I'm a cattle farmer and we inject bull derived testosterone in cows to increase the meat they put on, would that work?

>people actually cycle instead of running +50 for the rest of their lives with no negatives.

What's +50? You meaning taking 50mg of test weekly for the rest of your life?

>50mg of test weekly
that would give you super low test levels

I have an addictive personality.
The chance of me being able to stop taking a drug that makes me feel healthier, stronger and more confident is 0%

How come? Aren't you just adding it to your current test levels?

Don't know anything about roiding

Doing a 8-12 week cycle once a year literally does no harm. Only issue is you do lose the gains so it's bit of a waste of cash. I just use it for injury recovery.

Just incorrect. After inactivity muscle is retained for a week, begins to atrophy after this and after two weeks it plummets. With no exercise you would lose almost all mass by two months. The body more than anything is designed to not waste.

>adding it to your current test levels
>Don't know anything about roiding
it pretty obvious

as soon as you start taking test (oral or injectable) your body will stop producing natural test because it's being deliverd from outside. Same thing with calories. If you eat them (deliver from outside) your body will use those instead of burning fat storages for energy.

Shutting down natural test production comes pretty fast. It varies from person to person (obviously) but you can be 100% sure that you are no longer producing your own test if you've been on gear for 2 weeks (4 shots of test e/c for example)

>literally does no harm.
except it does because you are shutting down your balls and it takes time to recover them and it comes with all sorts of side effects. That's why people blast and cruise instead of cycling

My advice is to never start steroids.

t. roider

If i can find quality LSD and DMT online i can find some roids.

> HCG
> proper PCT
> plenty of time between cycles
I've done a cycle and had my test checked before and about 6 months later and they were both fine. I think it's a bit of a waste of money personally because test alone isn't as miraculous as you'd think. You have a pump all the time but it only got me to a natty limit i had hit a few years previously. Injecting your ass is a huge effort too.

How?

Do you guys only train at home or something? Go to the biggest gym in your city, find the biggest or most roided looking guy and ask him to hook you up. That stuff is literally everywhere

> relying on npcs who inject whatever is going irregularly without PCT or AI and will just deny being on gear anyway.

I've some guy who had enormous gyno, acne and synthol looking arms if he was on gear as part of a bet with friends and he said "no it's all diet". Unironically the reddit is good for info and then dream market for products.

*asked

I bet if I even cycled once in my life, I'd be blasted with all the possible negative side effects.

Still not worth it, as long as even 0.1% chance exists of me losing my perfect hairline I'd never take that risk.

This. Gyno and fucking up my hairline is the reason i won't ever roid

Does suck being stuck with a natty body, though

you only get gyno if you're a retard mate and you wont lose your hair...

>you either stay average as fuck and natural or get shredded/strong as fuck but gain lots of health risks with it

why do we have to choose, bros?

>1 cycle
imagine being this delusional
no one that gets on roids stops doing it after a whilke, they are always on something, unless they stopped training completely due to health complications but even they might be on trt.
Just LMAO at all the retards implying they are gonna stop being genetic deadend waste after 1 cycle.
Here's what's gonna happen, you are gonna get some short term gains, you are then gonna lose most of them, your testes will be permanently affected for the rest of your life even if you don't notice it much, you might get gyno or puffy nips, your mental head will go to shit, you will probably hop on trt or on full on steroids, you will never get off them for the rest of your life unless you have no finances to support your addiction.

t. dumb 18 yeard old

You will get gyno if you're a fucking idiot and in that case you should never touch steroids.

Hair loss is literally a genetic thing. One guy will start balding at 18 other will keep his hair until he dies. I remember when everyone and their mother was telling me that i will die of old age with head full of hair. I went almost compeletly bald on top of my head at the age of 22.

There's quite a bit of debate about this, truthfully. I've read a lot of articles, but I'm not going to pretend to be a fitness researcher. One of the things I've read about is something that was called muscular potential, which can be increased, and is very difficult to lose without very poor diet, or severe atrophy (as in torture survivors, paralysis victims, coma patients)

Basically, it states that even mild use of muscles, provided enough nutrients and calories, especially at a surplus, retain growth and strength potential, from earlier training, even after mass is lost.

Anecdotally, I was a hungry skelly in hs, weighed 135 @ 6ft 0in give or take 14-18% bf loosely estimated. I trained heavy, my sophomore year for wrestling x cross country, and bulked to 145lb at 6% bf at my peak (hydrostatic measurement). I started my bench at 4r @ 95lbs, but in a year, I peaked bench at 4r @ 245, squat was 315. I didn't do OHP or DL (school program, I did the lifts they told me) but my power clean was about 225.

I sustained an injury to my right ACL and it took me out of the gym and wrestling, in my senior year, and put me on crutches for 6 months. A few years later (5 or 6), I got back in the gym. I had gained a ton of weight, and was 6'0 220lbs at probably over 20%bf or worse. I was immediately able to do lmao1pl8 for reps, and it only took a month to get back to 205 for reps, and slightly longer (2-3mo)to break lmao2pl8 for reps, however, even though my injury has long since healed, I still haven't gotten back to a respectable weight in any leg based lifts. I also had no physical therapy during my injury recovery, which didn't help.

>1 cycle
What makes you think you're only going to do one? If you like working out and lifting weights and tracking your progress, well... Then you're going to love steroids. Look, taking a little test isn't that bad for you. I personally felt 10x better on test and basically decided during my first cycle that I was never coming off. Don't buy into the "one cycle" delusion. Steroids are underwhelming, but supplementing the testosterone hormone is extremely beneficial for all young men.

its the Icarus story
fly too close to the sun and you will get burn

why cycle? why come off at all?

It is about the increasing number of muscle fibres. Without steroid use you can't do that, with steroids you can.
I'm not an export; it might be the ridiculously elevated levels of testosterone push this beyond what's normal, or it might be specific to something like Hgh, but I think it happens just with Test/Tren. Not sure about SARMs though.
It's why people sometimes mention there should be moratoriums and lifelong bans for PEDs in athletics; since even if someone does a couple of cycles then has a year clean before competing they have more muscle fibres and a slight advantage to strength (and muscle size) for life.

>take anavar for a month
>much better stamina
>can do double the reps
>not tired after workout
>stop taking anavar
>still stronger
?????????????????

Having an appointment to an endocrinologist Monday. My testosterone level is 2.77ng/ml which is very low.
What are my chances they'll finally put me on TRT? I'm tired of this bullshit.

Zero. I can confirm as a doctor (not endo) that we have a terrible lack of concern for it. As a student i did a research project on lowering sperm counts/testosterone and most of my feedback was "wow what a zany topic".

I've met one fertility doctor who was very keen on male sexual health and upset at too much focus on the female but even he was virulently anti-steroids.

Yeah if you really wanted an effective singular cycle you'd do HGH for a few months then test at the end.

Why? Not planning on roiding myself but i find it interesting reading this stuff

Honestly the mental effects you get from roiding almost sound more tempting than the physical effects.

Not like i'm depressed or anything, but feeling like you're king of the hill all the time must be glorious

What is your trt protocol?

I'm currently on trt and despite being on a low dose I don't feel any benefit and got bad back acnee and mild gyno flare up.

Doctor don't want to prescribe AI in my country because they don't seem to be informed about it. They told me it's only medication for breast cancer patient.
I'm having a hard time finding an actual study that explain the benefit of AI for trt patients.
Anybody know one? I'd appreciate.

Depends on the country, US has one od the highest limits. If you go below 300 units, they should put you o trt. In my homeland normal levels are between 300 and 800. In the US it was 400 to 1000 last time I checked. You can also try to lower your T level prior to the test. Masturbation and lack of sleep the night before should do the trick.

I want to do a tren ace cycle bad but I'm fucking scared of suppression/shutdown. Like what if it doesn't come back? Also what if I go bald during the cycle. fuck there's no way to know.

Fuck it man, i'll just start roiding like mad and if i get fucked over by the side effects i'll just get myself a big ass Icarus tattoo on my back

Shit will be so cash

tell him about aromatase

>all this talk about steroids being dangerous as fuck if not used properly and how it will fuck up everything in your body

yet for every person that talks about steroids negatively effecting his life i seem to find 10 people who didn't experience any major side effects

the risks of steroids are way overblown if used properly

that's the way, you figured life out

There are other side effects....

>find the biggest or most roided looking guy and ask him to hook you up
H-hey so uhm you’re pretty big do you have any st-steroids I can buy from you??
Don’t do this please. Just make friends with them and let it come into conversation naturally.

It is so fucking easy to find roids online lol. The major websites are incredibly overpriced though. There use to be a subreddit dedicated to steroid source talk but it was banned and later became its own, smaller forum with AMAZING sources and excellent prices and a huge variety of basically any steroid/any other performance enchancing drug you could ever want

Can you show me?

Its literally in hiS poST just don't be an idiot and do some googling

Eroids

Yes you can.
What do you think satellite cells do? Do you think they form entirely new muscle fibres? No...they merge into existing muscle fibres I.e. add their nuclei

Fuck me read a book

Right

So Ronnie Coleman taking 3 months off a year meant he started from scratch everytime.

One of the overpriced websites. Tren, for instance is nearly DOUBLE the price.
Also the sources there pay the mods to stay in good standing and remove negative posts. That's probably why they call them "sponsors" and not "sources."

yea please advice why first some HGH and then Test after?

>jack hammer wrecked his own body using that shit and even a manlet with brain damage was capable of trashing him

Using GH takes time. 2 months it should realistically be run for 6 months minimum but If you have the $ there is no reason to not stay on it indefinitely.

Using test near the "end" of your GH run guarantees your IGF-1 levels are high when you go and start blasting your anabolics. This maximizes growth potential.

Add in 10 grams of test e twice a week and you should be good to go for a beginner cycle

>it's genetic
>my families genetics didn't matter
tf did he mean by this

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Holy cringe you must be braindead

> stay on it forever.

ive seen videos from body builders that had huge guts because they did HGH and it grows everything. pops your belly button, grows your intestines...

what you are doing is giving bad advice.

you know how sometimes you wake up and know todays going to be a good day? it's that every day. you feel huge and like you can control any situation. people constantly compliment how swole you are. feels good man

t. jew

im also considering doing ONE cycle.
however what if I fall in love with that feeling of greatness you have on it?

imagine never feeling so great in the morning anymore. NEVER.

>I've seen videos
Wow, good. Body builders just inject everything they fucking can to get bigger, it does not mean that they understand what it is actually doing inside of them.

That "gut" is from insulin injections not HGH. Insulin promotes visceral and subcutaneous fat gain. Subcutaneous fat has androgen receptors that shit like tren, test, anavar bind to and help burn. These hormones do not bind to visceral fat (FAT AROUND ORGANS) and therefore you have an accumulation of fat around organs leading to huge guts. You are ignorant as fuck.

If you take like 10iu/day for YEARS.

Still wrong.

So
Sad
Tranny

well if it never happens again i can die happy knowing i tried it. mostly it was curiosity that drove me to try it. i didnt want to die with regret that i didnt try something new and gain experience.

>mfw mother is doc and has all that shit lying around at home
Hmmmm

just do it faggot

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you absolute fucking braintard.

the big gut was caused by HGH cause the intestines grow and push out against the belly.

stop being such a tard.

thanks bud

the distended stomach is due to visceral fat, not enlarged organs. the same phenomenon is observable in diabetics that don't even lift. iirc, the reason is that they have the highest affinity anywhere in the body for fat storage (makes sense since they protect vital organs), so it accumulates there. it has absolutely nothing to do with HGH or enlarged organs

Test E for beginners is a meme. Too much aromatisation and oestrogen shit to keep on top of for a first timer. Tren A and DHB cyp is the best starter cycle.

>DMT
where do you get it user? ive been wanting to buy some

The downsides can be immediate and permanent.
I'm not taking that risk.
Not even once.

>'natty' roiders hyping up the risks to keep their edge
>don't cycle, kid, it will BTFO your balls
>definitely don't do tren, it's super bad for you

Just go on dream market. Get TOR, a vpn, make sure your window isn't fully open and flash player isn't activated (both default on TOR), get the link from deepdotweb (think thats the name), make an account (please dont use a password you use normally), find the drug you want (under psychedelics tab), find what you want, (I recommend that you buy from a reputable seller that is from your country so you dont cross borders), read the seller reviews, mark the USD price, buy bitcoins + plus extra for price fluctuations (especially at the price we are sitting at), learn how to use PGP (complicated sometimes, I got it right by using a web based pgp maker that allowed me to practice sending, receiving and understanding pgp messages), give the seller your real information so you dont raise alarm, pay, wait and finally enjoy. If youre from canack, paulsimon for mush+lsd. Something fairy is good for dmt. Pliss no ban mods

Fuck you mods. Gay faggots.

I'm interested in fitness more for the sake of being healthier and stronger. Steroids might make me stronger, but not healthier