Ss gomad moged

Something you need to get stronger, regardless

just because you cant look like the 0.000001% of roiding population isn't a reason to go bloatmode

It's also not the reason to go twink mode and be weak

I don't get how some people lift and still look bad. I did a bro split/PPL type shit for 2 years and looked great. Granted I was not very strong or huge I admit but I still looked good. Why does more casual style lifting get shit on so hard? at some point I stopped caring so much about my workouts because I looked good. At that point I figured it time to move on to something more useful and spend my time there instead of being a narcissistic gymcel faggot

this

>get into a fight with an SS milk autist
>holy fuck this fucker is strong
>SS autist beats you to a bloody pulp
>you squeak haha so insecure dude!!!1 through broken teeth

If looking good is your primary reason for lifting than that is good for you I guess.

>get into a fight
is this how ss fags delude themselves

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Aesthetic now means dyel with a shirt on, gotcha

>get into a fight with an aesthetics bro
>holy fuck this fucker has good cardio
>aesthetics bro beats you into a bloody pulp
>you squeak haha let's see your boxing training help you beat my deadlift!!!1 through broken teeth

>implying usefulness is not purely subjective in a world where everything is meaningless
>implying you couldn't get similar results with the fraction of time and effort
>implying you didn't do it because of narcissism
>implying your weekly training schedule affects the way you look more than your diet
If you really want to take the minimalist approach just to look good and not be fat just hit the gym twice a week and watch how much you eat.

>aesthetic bro
>cardio
Wot

lmao dude what universe do you live in? aesthetics bros do tonnes of cardio to keep that trim look. especially compared to an SS milk autist aka 0 cardio.

put an ss fag to do 3 sets of 20 with 50s rest and see what cardio is

They don't, since that "trim look" is all about food, and they don't care about performance. There will be some difference in cardio between a fatass and a skinny curlbro, but nobody in the strength community really recommends becoming a bloatlord, aside from noob retards who misinterpret Rippetoes bullshit and treat it as gospel

Usefulness in the context of my own life. Self improvement I guess is narcissistic on some level but there is obviously nuance to that. I totally agree on the diet part. I did do the minimalist approach. Three days a week Monday:Push Wednesday:Pull Friday:Legs. That's it.

Did SS + hgomad for about 4 months and have been dabbling with post-novice programming for three months since. Closing in on 1/2/3/4 an I look great and should be switching to intermediate programming soon. The only injury i've had was some overuse inflammation in my knee from cycling to and from work every day and then being on my feet 8-10 hours a day.

How exactly does less volume and less time in the gym make you a gymcel? How exactly are performance based goals more narcissistic than aesthetic based goals? How exactly are looks more useful than strength?
All of you people who argue tat strength training makes you fat are arguing with rippetoe's diet advice, not strength training in general. Almost none of us eat the way he says, and almost all of us are willing to make slower progress in exchange for keeping our abs visible. The level of delusion on this board is fucking staggering.

This. This is real life and you're a big boy and guess what? Sometimes people want to hurt you. Muscles are engines or energy metabolism and for performance they need to be good at that. Not good at engorging themselves with blood.

Glycolytic energy metabolism NOT cardio. You'll putter out ten seconds after a guy who strength trains. Both of you should do SOME cardio, and then when your post-novice or intermediate program is more accommodating to volume days, light days, cardio days, or martial arts, you can focus on your oxydative energy metabolism.

-Personal trainer, MMA conditioning coach, and GFI

Maybe this comes down to region but in my gym most if not all curlbros and noobs spend time doing some kind of cardio either before or after working out. Then of course you have the group that pretty much only goes to the gym for cardio based workouts, maybe getting on a machine at some point.

M8 all I'm asking is why casual training without a 'program' isn't encouraged more. I don't think it's necessary for anyone to follow some 'program' or workout plan shit. It's all fitness industry faggotry shills just like you a personal trainer and mma coach.

You're mistaking what's shilled here for what's shilled in the industry. I didn't say that prestructured programs are the only way to work out, but they are optimal paths toward performance-based goals. If you don't want to optimize, don't hire a trainer.

Spend some time off the internet.

all of you people are dead wrong and have been misled by absolute bullshit youtubers

1. the gym is about perfecting the body and physique AND strength. it is BOTH. only lazy people only go for strength.
2. cardio is a essential part of getting a healthy body. you can do either before or after. but it stays in the routine.
3. you have to do compounds AND isolations. no excuses. suck it up and make a PLP program, 3 days on and 1 day off, with cardio and abs. include your compounds and isolation workouts. rep range should be 5x5 for compounds and a minimum of 3x10 for isolations. i dont want to hear about "muh CNS". if you are a baby, go back to SS. you have to max your strength and rep count every fucking day. if you can't take it, then you will never make it. your body has to go thru absolute fucking hell if you want to beat the guy on stage
4. this will take 2 years at best, even with perfect diet. low sugar ice cream is great for extra calories. people that are trying to shortcut cut this with bullshit 1x5's are simply fat and lazy and think lifting a few times a week makes them strong and then wonder why they look horrible. some of them will come on stage because they are so egotistical. they obviously lose.
5. gym will NOT help in a fight. i do security work as a night job. your clientele are homeless drugged out homeless people with hepatitis on PCP or thug gangsters with 2 guns and a knife. getting in fights is for idiots and whoever the user said about getting in fights shows how little real world fighting you have done. if you want to learn fighting, learn boxing+BJJ+wrestling and get a CHL licence and a gun. always call the police if possible, or unless threatened, go for the choke to avoid broken bones/hospital bills.

as usual, fit knows nothing. since everyone is anons, people can spout anything and people believe it. you people are so lost

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Because otherwise its just spinning wheels and generally waste of time. If you want to fuck around to stay lean just come to the gym two times a week, do some full body compounds and fuck off. Here, you keep your goals in check by doing 2h work weekly. But even that is some structure and could be considered a program.

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my arms look like that frontally but big sideways
is this supposed to be like that or not?

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based and red pilled

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Strength training is enjoyable. Your brosplit is not and you look like shit anyway, judging by your post. You'll stop lifting in a couple of months

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lmao thats how I look at the end of my cut
how the fuck did he get so small, always knew he was roiding but damn

say that after your first visit to snap city fatty

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samedumbfaggot

>the gym is about
the gym isn't about anything. It's a place. You take your goals to it and get what you want out of it.
>only lazy people go for strength
how do you figure exactly?
>Cardio is essential
Nobody's arguing that for a healthy body all kinds of energy metabolism are necessary. Nobody said "fuck cardio entirely for ever". But they did talk about prioritizing which gains to focus on at which stages of training.
>You have to do compounds and isolations
I don't fucking have to do anything
>2 years at best
for what?
>The gym will NOT help in a fight.
It damn well will. It will compliment a martial art or two nicely. There's a reason weight classes exist.

You are the nonsense-spouting retard you complain about. Shut the fuck up.

All the strength and aesthetics routines posted on Jow Forums have essentially the same exercises and volumes just arranged in different orders

The real difference is whether you lay in bed at night thinking “please grow stronger” or “please grow sthetic” over and over again

> the gym isn't about anything. It's a place. You take your goals to it and get what you want out of it.

this is what fat losers say. either go for it all or stay in your facebook soccer mom group. you are complacent and dont want anything.

> how do you figure exactly?
because it is easy to lift heavy objects once or twice a week on SS. you can show up with your powerlifting gear, huff and puff with some chalk, look really cool, but when someone says why do you look so bad, you can give the excuse "im a powerlifter". you are lazy. the body has to be sculpted like a stone figure.

> Nobody's arguing that for a healthy body all kinds of energy metabolism are necessary. Nobody said "fuck cardio entirely for ever". But they did talk about prioritizing which gains to focus on at which stages of training.

you dont understand. it is apart of the routine. case closed

> I don't fucking have to do anything
stop whining and just do it. it is obvious you dont push yourself to the max with anything in life.

>It damn well will. It will compliment a martial art or two nicely. There's a reason weight classes exist.

again, i deal with this stuff every night. take your muscles onto the streets and i guarantee you one of those fuckers will knock you out easily. you cannot win a fight with muscles alone, you need martial arts training on top of it. if you cant use the muscles, then you are just a bigger target for me. plenty of guys with muscles get knocked out cause they dont know how to fight.

again, you are just lazy

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He looks so much smaller on regular angles and camera lenses, despite using proper posture.
>online fitness celebrities

>He looks so much smaller on regular angles and camera lenses, despite using proper posture.
>internet photos != real life
WOW what a discovery

Can run 5k in 22 min and never gonna snap either

>He looks bigger in neutral light with no angles or posing

You mean like every human? Lol, imbecile

>never gonna snap either

I mean like he looks like he's been lifting for a year maybe two on regular shots, but when he cherrypicks angles and camera lenses he looks fucking jacked.
There's a big difference between looking fit and looking jacked.
Calm down queer.
Same goes for you, obviously there's bound to be some difference, but he does look like a completely different person between cherrypicked and casual shots.

Post body copelet

Snapping is less dangerous anyway than roiding. Doesn't make you bald either nor is your dick gonna fall off

you post body cocksucking nuthugging online fitness obsessed retard
with timestamps

lmao argument dismantled

>Claims Connor looks like he lifts for 1 year
>Loses his shit when asked to post body

Pudgy dyel cope #2134124, neeext

in that photo he does look like has has little muscle mass, in comparison he looks skinny and emaciated, and while being less lean too.
stop sucking his cock it's getting pathetic.
post body with timestamps though.

I'm going to have horrible stretched skin for the rest of my life, training aesthetics would be retarded.

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Cope, connor is bigger than you will ever be in your life, you're a delusional pudgy little man with inferiority complexes.
Post body :)

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He looks much bigger there, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
His arms shrank like crazy while he's just as lean if not a bit fatter now, that just doesn't happen in natties.

he fell for the >you need to roid to look good meme
good luck with your back problems when you get 50

You are aware that lighting and posing is one of the key components of bodybuilding, and that people in neutral light and neutral poses look much smaller? my god...

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i'm literally the guy on the right.

Those all look the same

That guy's arms, chest and shoulders and traps look the exact same size in those shots lmao.

Cringe

ofc you are user

You and me both know you've never been in a fight, nor have you ever expressed anger at anyone in public.

cope

>> the gym isn't about anything. It's a place. You take your goals to it and get what you want out of it.
>this is what fat losers say. either go for it all or stay in your facebook soccer mom group. you are complacent and dont want anything.

How do you know what i want nigger? Or how fat I am.

>roiding for this

cringe and cope

Post body.

>not doing both

I'll never understand how the majority of people on /fit have this either/or mentality. Every fucking thread like this is aesthetic fuck boy twinks crying about how good they look and fat strength builders crying about how much stronger they are. Just do both. You're leaving gains on the table if you only do one or the other

Connor was definitely on something and stopped because of his hairline, it's obvious.

jesus christ

>being this insecure
>hur dur I have more muscle definition then you
see what I did there?

Connor is a massive spaz, but at least he's funny too

This is my gym AMA

How tall is this guy

this is what SS fatties actually believe