Alcoholic Anonymous

i made the post, not you faggot. stop answearing questions that are not for you.

>What made you suddenly stop?
a very dangerous incident. thats all i can say

I remember your thread yesterday and I was the first to reply, keep up the good work m8, we are all gonna make it

pls no bully

Been snake juice fasting. Honestly fasting has helped reduce my dependency on booze but clearly the spikes following the weekend show i fall right back into it

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Only if you have been drinking for like 20 years plus.

Grand mals are scary.

I have some pbr in the fridge for the storm but when I go out I drink hipster wheat beers and kolschs, there are a couple local breweries I like and they do tap takeovers at the pubs
A couple years ago I was drinking 4 days a week out of boredom, these days I go out about once a week and have ~4 beers and shoot the shit with the regulars
Doesn't feel like i have a problem

How much and how often do you need to drink for you to be an alcoholic? Some weeks I have a drink almost every night, but it's usually like 1oz of scotch or bourbon three hours before bed. It's on and off, though I usually don't abstain for more than a few weeks at a time. Getting drunk is boring and makes me feel like shit the next day, but a tiny amount of nice spirit helps me relax after a stressful day.

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Liver guy here. Men die early from cirrhosis. Late 20’s I was beyond repair.

Hello, my name is user and I am fourteen hours sober.

I am kind of alcoholic, I am sober during the week and get laid at weekends but still improving my gains and losing bodyfat.
Did I make it?

Drinking is unavoidable living on a beach. Rest of your diet has to be perfect not to lose all your gainz.

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Heroin addict here the 12 step program is nice cuz u meet people who are going through the same shit and u can meet people to hang out with that dont go out to bars or get high but every meeting is different some suck some are awsome try out a few before u say fuck it

>Alcoholic/Addict 8 years
>7 Rehabs

I've got over a year clean now. 28 years old so it sucks I'm starting my life now. The social anxiety and low self esteem is very bad right now, but I'm working on it by going to meeting. Fucked up reading how it works last night by stuttering, cuties laughed at me. But at least I faced my fear and the fear came true.

I inject test sust
now though, which weirdly dosent trigger me, even though I used to inject heroin and coke.

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2nd time posting in this kind of thread

Almost 5 months since I've had any meth or other hard drugs. Gradually stopped drinking after that. Day 3 no coffee lol, another 4 days and I'll give a run at nofap.

I really got into Jow Forums as I started getting sober. Lifting was the only thing that was able to curb my drinking because working out hungover really slows progress, gains goblin, etc.. Before that I failed school, became physically dependent, isolated myself...

I still drink 2-4 times a month but it's sooo much less than I used to. I consider myself to have 'quit', i dont think about alcohol in the same way that i used to

My one piece of advice to OP and others is to just get more into lifting. Shit gives you a really immediate and palpable reason to not drink, drug, etc. Good luck anons

its not about numbers - alcoholism IS A MINDSSETTT

>Getting drunk is boring
youre not even close dw

>day 85
the first few weeks really sucked. now, i get a craving once or twice a week. one day at a time is the trick. that and a shit ton of la croix.

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for me, it's really helped. It can also be networking for degenerates, I've never turned down so much pussy in my life as I have getting sober. I have a GF.

You’re not an alcoholic or at least I don’t think most people would consider you to be one. I enjoy social drinking on the weekends and absolutely love trying out new beers. Unless it’s truly a big problem for you, I’d say moderation should be the goal, not complete abstinence.

Why are there so many junkies on Jow Forums? And why would you start doing hardcore shit like that.. you've probably seen cracky ass junkies growing up and I doubt you'd ever want to become one of them, no?

Addiction doesn’t work like that, man. Everyone thinks they’ve got it under control.

>Everyone thinks they’ve got it under control.
They're dumb.

Ya, I thought like that too. Until I found myself living with a stripper, free basing heroin and popping pills. I'm clean and sober now, I can relate to people getting there, but I have no sympathy for people that stay there. Euthanize em.

Well yeah. Addiction changes your brain. The internet and Jow Forums is certainly a vice for a lot of us. You can argue it’s not as destructive as drugs or drinking but I often tell myself I want to stop coming to this site but then I find myself here the next day.

Haven't had a drink in almost 3 years.
Sober life is wonderful.
t.former raging alcoholic

How long does one have to consistently drink to be considered an alcoholic and does consistently drinking to the point of blacking out lower that time frame?

I decided I was alcoholic when I couldn't stop drinking despite my desires. I was highly functional (house, bmw, business), but couldn't help but have cocktails when I got home, and I'd get "drunk" on the weekends. You are considered alcoholic when you say that you are.

Yeah for me it was when I realized that whenever I’d go out with friends, I’d be ordering my third beer when they were still on their first.

I'm slightly shaking during the day and I'm still drinking every night oh boi.

Is there a good guide to detox. I don't want to quit I just want to drink like a half bottle of vodka 2 or three days a week

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i started out popping adderall, the logical endpoint from there is squirting meth juice up your ass. shit wasnt hard to drop and i didnt do it that often. i dont even regret it - cant say the same about alcohol.

>Why are there so many junkies on Jow Forums?
there's so many junkies everywhere, user

Taper with one beer every 1-2 hours for a day or two. Curb cravings with weed. eat solid meals, relax, go for walks. keep off for 5 days + once youre past the taper phase

Sounds like youre just str8 alcoholic tho and have yet to hit ur bottom. good luck user

Drinking every day for 17 years so far masterrace reporting in....

I've reduced my intake to zero many times, and always failed... i seem to have hit a sweet spot recently though where I can drink 3 beers a night and then stop. I'm pretty happy with that and feel healthier than ever...

wouldn't it be better to drink no beers and feel amazing all the time? instead of wrestling with moderation all the time?

Is that not common? I slam the first three beers in ten minutes and then taper to one every thirty minutes.

I quit last Wednesday. Already quit nicotine cold turkey a few years back. Decided it was time to quit the liquid jew as well.

Wasn't al/ck/ sent to Jow Forums?

I drank most days week. Been sober since monday. I don't drink heavy just beer and occasionally wine
Anyway started lifting again on Monday and it does help knowing im getting gains again. That and working out even midlt hungover on Monday was such a bitch compare to sober. I'll have some more beer next week but less

depends on what AA is like in your city/town

i’m in AA in NYC, which is widely considered god tier next to maybe LA. everyone at morning meeting is super legit; CEOs, celebrity actors, etc. good people to be around because they’ll make you want what they have. other programs in other parts of the country, maybe as good maybe not as good. really depends on the room. i kicked a 15 year brutal opiate addiction cold turkey and i’m in my late 20s, which if you know anything about physical dependency can only be described as a miracle. my best friends are through AA, my job is through AA. so obviously i’m a supporter. but i also understand people have bad experiences in crumby church basements surrounded by drunks. oh and sober people by and large are all Jow Forums AF bc there’s literally zero poison holding you back.

t.doesnt know how great a mild beer buzz is.
Even normies love it nigga

60 something days here keep it up user first week is rough

you’re an alcoholic if when you stop drinking entirely your life improves.

or if you go to an AA meeting and when people talk you nod your head.

or if you have to ask the question lol

and yeah blackout drinking is a sign of alcoholism, unfortunately it’s widely tolerated in college, 20s, etc so like it’s harder for people to recognize the pattern of bad behavior. many people “go out” and have 2 drinks, have a good time, and go home. baffling to someone like me, maybe for you too...

false

good shit

thats a lot

this

Oh i'm well aware. But I'm happier without it.

>"go out” and have 2 drinks, have a good time, and go home
I don't understand. Did you forget a digit in the number of drinks?

Probably been sober 4 months now. Too broke at the minute anyway

Day go to the max

i’ll save a seat for you

The hardest thing for me is im the person who socially drinks once a week but to an extreme. I drink to get absolutely fucked up, not to unwind. Its not even fun but i cant help it, i drink so fast and cant control myself.

Yes I am weak

I was in the kid in college that drank to get absolutely shit faced. I didn't even realize I was different than others. Now whenever I drink so much as 4+ drinks in a night I wake up full of anxiety. I can't drink anymore.

Trust me when I say you need to stop now. You're a classic binge alcoholic as am I. That once a week will start becoming 2 then 3 and so on until you're blacking out most nights. If you're a binge your drinking can get out of hand very very quickly.

53 days without Alcohol
152 days without Weed

Its a good feeling guys. Some aspects of my life havent gotten better, but nothing has got worse and I feel way better every day.

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It's scary how addiction basically just steals your free will. Everything you do is based on serving your addiction. And it's all in your mind. The conscious brain is being made a slave to the subconscious parts.

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anyone fucked up hardcore mixing alcohol with cocaine for a year straight?

now i cant have a beer without craving a line or cant have a line without a gin

im 1 week clean and life feels not worth it. i fucked up so hard i swear this year went by like a month. i cant believe it

>That's a Grand mal
>4u

Yeah whenever Id binge It was like watching another person take control of my body. It was like I had two people living inside me and the sober me would just let the alcoholic/druggie me so whatever he wanted. It was almost always shit Id never do sober, like eating a fuck ton of food, spending a shit ton of money I didnt have, secluding myself from friends and family. It was awful.

Being achoholic makes your life fly past you, because you don't remember half of it.

Totally false
A buddy of mine I grew up with, same age as me (26) went from being alright to shaking in a year just by consistently drinking malt liquor every day.
Sucks to see him going out like this, I know it wont be long before hes just a bum, but I am not gonna go around telling people what to do, I'm not anyone's father.

This is probably the worst thing. I basically lost all my friends because they wanted to continue burning out and I really cant do anything to stop grown ass men from doing that.

Former alcoholic/drug addict. I’m 12 months sober. The most difficult part to overcoming addiction is overcoming your own mindset and ideals. The thoughts of “how could I ever not drink again?” Will kill you. If you give your ego and self up for improvement and go to any means necessary to change you will live. The key to this state is pure desperation to be better. Find others like you and surround yourself with them. They will be idiots who you’d like to kill but they will help you stay sober. One fucking minute at a time.

Any fellow alcoholics have any success getting lean? I've been trying to get a six pack for 8 years and my diet is perfect (except the booze), cant seem to exit builtfat mode.

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Quit drinking. If your diet is really perfect you will get lean so fast your head will spin.

more than 4 drinks a night is categorized as binge drinking and is a sign of alcoholism.

there is always room for one more.

It gets easier OP.
Alchemy free since June 2017 here. The first couple days are the worst just keep going

fken lmao. i been binge drinking for 10 years

was drinking nearly every night, then i got Mono and my liver function was bad so I stopped for a while, about 2 months. wasn't that hard to quit, to be honest. I had a little anxiety the first week maybe.
now I find it much easier to just have some beer once or twice a week and not binge too hard as long as I'm alone.

you can binge drink and not be an alcoholic

Withdrawal was hell for me, I had a seizure from it once and I ended up in hospital. Chewed my tongue up pretty bad, worse thing is I kept drinking after that because I was so scared of having another seizure I didn't want to withdrawals to kick in as hard. Of course I never actually tapered down and eventually ended up going to the hospital for a medical detox, they kept me on benzos for over a week. It took a few months to basically get back to normal, even a year later I'm still anxious a lot and have difficulty sleeping. Plus I lost the love of my life. I hate alcohol now, it cost me literally everything - even my hope of joing the military since if you've had a seizure that's an immediate red flag for medical.

Lifting really helped me get my life in order, I don't get mad even when you guys are assholes because at least here I had someone to talk to after everyone else left me. It's been a lonely, miserable and regretful year but at least things are on the up.

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I've cut my drinking down from drinking 4 days a week to just in Saturday's socially. Doesn't sound like much, but I was drinking 8-12 beers those four days. So went from around 30-40 beers a week down to maybe 6. Feel a lot better obviously.

If you like estrogen, sure

Day 4 here, the first two days were definitely worst.

>Still feeling overly tired
>Insomnia

Fucking brains going over mistakes I've made and I'm just telling myself that I can't let any more life go past

I keep thinking this and I keep fucking coming back. I've always seen website blockers as shit but I keep wasting too much time here, leading to me feeling shit, leading to me drinking

I'm not a full on alcoholic, have a problem in that I feel I turn to it a little too often for the wrong reasons, but I would totally grab some beers and potentially whisky if I had a hurricane approaching. Not even out of stress or anything, just a mix of something to do and appreciate it a bit more

Alcohol is good and it makes me feel good. I love a nice drink

>28 years old so it sucks I'm starting my life now.
I've never had to do rehab, been a heavy drinker but never quite addicted, but I'm at this same point right now, I have trouble talking to people irl, having a live conversation I just struggle to find the words I'm after or even continue it. I can brainstorm ideas given time, but I just can't do moment to moment

I only tend to do this when I'm anxious, but I think at least some of the time, that anxiousness has been brought on by drinking and caffiene

After almost 4 months sober I fell back into it. Feel terrible about it :(

Right with you, I think I've got a handle on this but if it ends up I don't, I'm going to have to go teetotaller for life

I had a moment of weakness and bought 2 tallboys at the convenience store after 2 weeks of being sober. After those wore off, I went and got 4 more. Then when those weren't enough, I started sipping whiskey till I passed out.

2 days sobriety, if you don't count the hangover yesterday. Wish me luck, folks.

>I'm not a full on alcoholic

I'm sure you aren't.

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Former alcoholic here. I was on my way to quitting but having to put down my cat in the worst circumstance possible motivated me to quit forever. I stay sober for him, my buddy

How much for how long do you have to drink to get to that point? That is terrifying

I was really alcoholic before
Cravings all the time, couldn't think at night times about anything except drinking
One day shit happened and I just never had cravings again
Was sober for several months, but slowly started drinking again
I now make beer as a hobby and drink about 6 days out of 7.
Don't get the cravings anymore, don't get the itch, but I still love me some drink
I'm happy as I am now, as long as the cravings never come back everything is cool

Hey guys, addict here. Went from 5 days of heavy drinking/smoking/blow for 8 years, to maybe twice a month now. I've had time periods where I go sober for months, and I make insane consistent gains. Mental, physical gains are fun but I tell myself social gains is a real thing and try not neglect that. My main problem is that if I drink, I do the other 2- even now. Bad habits are hard to break.

I bought a crate of beer yesterday and I've had only four last night.
I learned that calling a number is very important to me and also that timing the intake is also very important, half an hour per beer minimum works well and a beer easily lasted longer than that.
Instead of drinking myself asleep, I can now drink to enjoy, victory is mine.

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Three months sober. Now drinking moderately. Bit scared about letting it slip, but I don't feel ready to become a teetotaler.