Why don't women approach men first?

They do, alot, they just don't approach you and the people you talk to because, well, you're a loser.

because approaching a guy might get you rejected, and why deal with that when there's a social custom of men approaching women to lean on instead? Like, if nobody approaches a girl, she can blame it on shy men being intimidated by her stunning looks.

Nature and society dictate that women are the prize, not men.

Why doesn't a lock approach the key?

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Because they don't have to.
An attractive woman will eventually be approached by a man, she doesn't have to do anything.
Although some do still.

people who have to larp as a roastie bitch are truly the biggest losers of all

This is the correct response. Unfortunately. But OP knew that.

I never said I was a woman or attempted to imply it.

Because they don't have to.

this is a false analogy unless you think that women are objects incapable of independent action.

In a just, utility maximizing world women would be expected to make the first move in an environment where women are given the privilege of selecting their partners, because men are less likely to turn down a woman seeking a partner than the inverse and as such fewer total rejections and the disutility that comes with them would occur. But we live in an inherently unjust hell-world controlled by the demiurge so that's not how it works.

They do. And it's one of the main reasons I get laid.

he assumed that because you didn't agree with him kek

>because approaching a guy might get you rejected
HAHAHAHAHAHHA what like 0.5% of the time?

Im scared of being rejected

Also if a guy doesnt approach a girl its usually a sign he doesnt like her very much

This.
t.someone who's been approached several times but missed all cues that they were interested

They do, they're just not as explicit about it as men are

To a woman, being friendly and receptive to flirting is itself flirting

they literally approach chads all the time

>Also if a guy doesnt approach a girl its usually a sign he doesnt like her very much

Or he thinks she's too hot for him...

they do if you're attractive. there's actually no point in approaching or asking out or talking up women ever. if they care about you even a little bit they will come to you first so just don't try for them ever.

>knows about gender relations and tours as an expert on the male / female dynamic
>cant talk to women
>missing the entire point of the analogy
Keep reading those ROK articles and incel subreddits genius
>why dont women make the first move
>why cant women make things easier for me and give me a handicap
Acknowledged retard

> if a guy doesnt approach a girl its usually a sign he doesnt like her very much

WRONG. The guy doesn't even bother trying because he already knows he WILL get rejected because he's not a chad.

Im of the mindset that if a guy likes me enough he will risk it and ask.

More than chads get laid user

yeah, but if it happens, you're DEVASTATED as a female. Why go through that when you don't have to?

Because if they wait, they can get the guy who is confident enough to approach them

If you are hot enough they might, or at least sign it very obvious.
The ones who you get this way will ussually be much less attractive, than what you could get, by confidently going after woman

It's hard and most guys think that a women approaching them implies... other stuff.

everyone is afraid but they still do it

Because women have incredibly fragile egos and simply would not be able to handle it if they were embarrassed or rejected in a manner similar to what they inflict on men on a regular basis.

It's seen as desperate if a women approaches a man so it's usually not worth the payoff.
Would you rather take the bus to an amazing new restaurant 30 minutes away that may not be even be open while silently locals judge you or literally walk outside and get free mcdonalds?

they do, but only if the men are exceptionally physically attractive

Because women are buyers and men are sellers
Women don't want to bother themselves with a beta male who can't muster up the balls to make first contact

Boy women are surely fucking stupid.
Why try when then answer is always no.

>most guys think that a women approaching them implies... other stuff
What other stuff?

you wish this were true, women are shameless and will practically throw themselves at you with just enough plausible deniability that they don't have to care if you don't reciprocate.

Because societal norms tell them that the man should approach the woman. Also, as long as some men are willing to approach them, they'll never feel the need to approach men. When they don't approach, they still get what they want, so why put the effort in?

>Because women are buyers and men are sellers

DAMN, never thought of it that way

They approach Chads all the time.

look who it is

origanilao

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Based and redpilled, every one should think like this

Some women do but in discreet ways 2 girls used to approach me all the time but i was too much of betafag to pay attention to them

same here, although if she really liked me, she would've said something too

Why don't Maybach sellers come up to you to buy?

I'm sorry but many guys are actually scared that women will reject them harshly and talk shit to everyone else or something. It's not about how much a guy likes you, it's simply about the fear of rejection. I know this because I used to be one of those guys.

Let's be honest now - if women approached you, you wouldn't think something's up? A mugging, she's after your money, she lost a bet, something?

Three girls have asked me out. AMA.

Women are just as nervous, so approaching them shows women you are confident enough to talk to them

liar

no way, women know most guys want to fuck them. Women ain't shy

yeah, probably

Not him but women do get nervous (but only if they are attracted to you), but moreoever there's that slight fear of men that women have. is he gonna rape me? etc. Its not as bad as metoo makes it out to be, but i'm sure it's there to some degree

It's true. First was in high school. We didn't do much besides go to a movie and she lost interest soon after that. Second time was the check out girl at the grocery store. We had been flirty for awhile and she asked me if I wanted to grab a drink. Went out a few times but she had a kid and it just wasn't meant to be. Third time was a girl in my class at college. Still with her.

So it does happen.

women approach men all the time
if it hasn't happened to you it means ur ugly
sorry

Estrogen generally increases the likelihood of acting passively and maximizing risk averse behavior.

>Women are just as human as men are
This is bait

what was the girl in college like?
i always imagine a girl who has the balls to ask a guy out must be some kinda special woman. Or a crazy and potentially clingy weeb type

this. If I approach a guy I will be slut shamed because people assume I have done it many times before to have the confidence to begin with. Let the man do it lol

>Also if a guy doesnt approach a girl its usually a sign he doesnt like her very much
Shy guys don't exist?

shy guys are gross lol

I don't consider that approach when sometimes you have to be fucking trained to understand what's going on.

I'm not gonna cry
I'm not gonna cry
I'm not gonna cry

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When she asked me out she was very nervous and awkward. I had seen her around campus but never really paid her much mind. I went to a party with her and we ended up really hitting it off. That was in '02. Been married 8 years now.

Sorry champ but I want a dominant high value chad to protect me from betas and low tier men

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It's basic biology. Don't be a pussy and ask women out.

Shy guys are just lazy. You can get over shyness

The other way around, lazy people say they're shy. Some others are really shy.

If you have confidence, you wouldn't be afraid of a few people "slut shaming" you
christ
Be a goddamn adult

Good shit user
Why are you hanging around these parts?
Does she still keep in shape and have a sexyasfuck body? or is the letting oneself go after marriage meme real?

Lol good luck chads magically stopped to bully me right after i grew taller than them

Boredom and curiosity, mostly. I think Jow Forums is one of the most interesting boards on Jow Forums.

The Mrs got skinnier after college but once we got married and had kids she's pretty much full Mommy bod now. Which is fine by me.

>Mommy bod
goddamn it
never getting married
never having kids
assuming i find a gf at all

fuck man, i gotta do everything for myself

They do sometimes, but you still can (and probably will, since this is r9k after all) easily fuck it up if you have an autistic brain like me.

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You have to do one SIMPLE thing

I dunno man, she's got those heavy hanger tits and chubby butt and since our kids were via c-section her pussy isn't all blown out. She may not be the pert little 19 year old she once was but we still fuck like rabbits whenever we get the chance.

I am jealous of a cartoon frog's jacket.

Well depends on the body I suppose but
>bigger tits
almost always a plus as long as they don't sag too much or the nipples become pepperonis
>bigger butt
mite b cool, esp on white girls. but big butt usually also means fat around the mid section and legs, which is what concerns me the most
I like a semi fit goddess. But I definitely see where you're coming from

Shyness is completely a choice.

t. someone who was never truly shy
and probably lacks empathy

Empathy is for women. Shyness IS a choice. Sounds like you want to be a woman.

women who make the first move get treated like sluts or whores, degraded and insulted, etc. and not in a good way.

Depends.

>"Hey user, do you want to go to a movie sometime?"

is different than

>"Hey user, want me to drain your balls in the bathroom?"

Why are virgins so crude? No need to be gross.

you're the one who sounds like a virgin

2/10
made me reply
nice chad roleplay user

This
I'd love if she asked me if she could drain my balls in the bathroom. But only after we've been dating a while kek
Saying that as the first introduction is too strange

>if a guy likes me enough he will risk it and ask.

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Empathy literally IS a female trait dude. It also doesn't mean you get a safespace for making bad life choices like being shy

They do though.

>girl gets drunk and feels up my leg and wraps around me
>next time around she tells me she was just drunk and she doesn't like me that way
>then she gets drunk and starts molesting me again
>tells me she's going to attack me at the next party before her friend pulls her away
>next party get hammered with her
>black out and next thing I'm fingering her in the bathroom
>she wants me to fuck her, tell her I have no condoms, she says to do it anyway
>drunk me actually says no
>takes another party for us to sneak somewhere and fuck

Now we're quasi-dating and fuck at everyone else's house since we live with our parents.

I KNOW RIGHT!!!!!!

Dkdjdjdj

girls approach all the time actually. if a girl hasn't made it extremely obvious she's into you no girl has ever been into you. this goes for guys who've had relationships too.

Because they don't need to. why would they give up the only power they hold in the world?

I think op is talking about actual physically/verbally approaching. And not just sending cues that she's interested

> women
Hahahahahahahahhaha