He claims natural

Call me crazy but I think Mike O'Hearn is natty. The main determinant in your physique (and life in general) is not the food you eat or the workouts you do or even how long you have lifted for, but the passion you have for the sport.

He doesn't even look that big and he's been lifting for nearly 10 years. He could easily be natty.

On the other hand, pic related is 16 years old, has been lifting for 18 MONTHS and claims to be natty.

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not as strong as roids, but more potent than any other supplement you can imagine. allegedly they have basically no side effects.

that's a 14 month difference, and it looks like all he did was bench a little more and learn to twist his torso a bit more will pulling his shoulder back.
I'd bet my kidney that lex is natty

He's a dicklet so probably not natural.

every male model renowed for their bodies are on anavar

Imagine being this naive.

ask yourself this, if Dorian Yates, The Rock, Arnold or Phil Heath never did steroids, how would they look lifting natty, seriously, for 10years?

If someone has very good genetics and naturally high test they will look great...whats the problem

His legs are unnaturally small

>the genetics fallacy again

Literally loled. Natural test levels have no correlation with how good you look on gear, and are no indication of what your potential is.

>But imagine how huge this big guy looked before steroids!

Luckily we don't have to. Here is Klokov on likely small doses of steroids.
Wow look he has no potential right? And yet on gear he mogs bodybuilders while doing strength training.

I can guarantee you there's no natty in the world that looks as good as OP's pic in nonshopped nonhandpicked pics at his height.

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>Claims a guy walking around 24/7 20 pounds heavier and 8 percentile points of bf leaner than natty contest ready Arnold is natty

Are you on some sort of drug yourself?

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>le you can't build muscle naturally AT ALL meme
cope

This is Dorian after 9months of training, natty, at 215lbs, before he did any shows or steroids. He would do his first cycle half a year later, preparing for his first show. And it got him to 235lbs.

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>if I can't make good gains natty NO ONE CAN!
LOL

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>arnold at 16
>klokov at 15
>see, that's the natty limit!
t. brainlet

5'9" 235 pounds lean. Hrm I am inclined to believe the anecdote of someone who stands to gain from people trusting him, instead of the collective experience of the rest of humanity that says this isn't possible naturally.

Hrm really makes one think.

>lean 235
>instead of the collective experience of the rest of humanity that says this isn't possible naturally.
You can't read? He got to 235lbs with steroids, and it wasn't lean, he cut down afterwards for his first show.

>stands to gain
gain what? he's retired and that was decades ago, and he's talking about steroid use

>not possible to be muscular natty
see

cope

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look at em chubby legs. Why do these people do this?

Fuck i hate this new meta bait shit

>He retired from a sport open about steroid use so he doesn't stand to gain from claiming he got to 250 lbs lean at midget height, not like he sells books, programs, shows, private training etc. And needs to convince you sky is the limit for natties

Imagine going through life being this much of a brainlet.

>Invisible lat syndrome midget after dedicating his life to fitness

Wow you really showed me newfriend! Now I know OP is natural, because a gymcels from the 1900s has some small amount of muscle mass at 5'4"!

>250lean
>still can't read
235lb not lean, with steroids, not lean, he cut afterwards down to like 205 or something. he wasn't big on his first show

> not like he sells books, programs, shows, private training etc. And needs to convince you sky is the limit for natties
>was natty for 9months
>thinks this will appeal to nattys to buy his programs like they do Mike Chang
lmao, this is so desperate. he doesn't use the natty card to sell anything, or tell people they're gonna make huge gains with "THESE SIMPLE TRICKS", he was asked about steroid use in a couple interviews and that's it, the data is available.

Hackenschmidt and these are considerably bigger than what you imagine the "natty limit" is : COPE

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>but natty lifting is a meme!
kek

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>Look this guy at 5'9" has SOME muscle mass, so obviously you can be leaner and far far bigger natty at 6'2" like the model in OP's picture

Perfect logic user.

English is not your native language? Or you're a compulsive liar?

No one said you can get far leaner and far far bigger than OP's model.

I said there are nattys who are considerably bigger than what you imagine the "natty limit" is :

Why would a sub 6' midget voice an opinion on what the natty limit for regular sized men is?

Seriously, just wondering.

Why would a sub-90 IQ brainlet continue to ask for punishment from his intellectual superior?

Seriously, just wondering.

Manlet confirmed

This. Not impossible if it's literally his job but very unlikely.

Hahahahahahahabababababababahababahahahabahahahahahaah

>6' is tall
lmao

Posting a world famous bodybuilding manlet as a mark for what is reasonably expected natty is beyond stupid. He's exceptional and famous for it.

Unlikely. But probably not on tren or tbol, just cruising test.

you forgot to add, most of them haven't even been tested clinically in anything but rodents, and those that have have not been tested for long term effects due to SARMs being relatively new...

wouldn't surprise me if some of them will give you cancer

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>world famous natties don't count!
LMAO, yes I'll post some unknown natties so you can yell "FAKE NATTY" at them, dumb dumb

Come on brah put some effort into it, just alter your DNA to have perfect insertions, high natural test and be born a midget, then you're on your way to success.

>Small enough that you wouldn't notice he lifts when clothed
>Cut but doesn't have dick skin

No reason why he couldn't be natural. Roiding for this body wouldn't be worth it.

No, it's just that using someone remembered a hundred years later for their figure, especially when a manlet, as a measure of natty standards is butt fucking retarded. And no we haven't discovered new crazy ways of exercising.

I remember seeing a bunch of jacked dudes from literal african 3rd world countries where they barely have access to proper food

you're retarded, gear is affordable as fuck in some african countries. Same thing with food, it's a whole fucking continent and not like everyone there is a starving ethiopian

>retarded
yes
>aware
no

I'm talking about pic where they literally used wood and stones as gym equipment
It wasnt in a major city or anything

Yes, in the pics, then they went back to training with old gym equipment that is actually made of rusty metal.

Boselli is ABSOLUTELY on steroids, albeit a light cycle

I'm studying abroad and literally saw him training once with his goons (they made vids on YT aswell i think)

They deadlift like 100kg and bench about 90, typical low test cycle pump training. Also for the kids saying this exact body is possible, i doubt, he has very good fullness at such a shredded bodyfat and he maintains it year round. Good luck with that unless ur on some light gear lol.

10% of the effects of steroids with 90% of the side effects.

Yes, he is natty. He's been a model since before puberty and has had professionals coaching him all the way.

You're posting someone with literally 0.01% top tier genetics. Not just physically. It's a statistic inevitability that these type of people exist. Get over it

>not saying he’s wrong.

Only two kinds of people will defend this guy being natty:
-Other fake natties who use him as an alibi for their own roiding
-Retards who have only lifted for 6 months who believe they are god's gift to arsthetics and can easily achieve any body they want natty within a year