Be 33 year old khv

>be 33 year old khv
>no friends, no social skills
>another Friday night alone at home. Just like every night
>work with many people a decade younger than me
>literally 8/10+ qt3.14 girls
>hurts a little to see them, talking with other coworkers they know, or being in the same elevator as them
>tfw have no friends at work
what do Jow Forums? How do I get better at talking to people?

Been even more depressed lately, haven't gone to the gym in 2 weeks

>try to find a reason to leave my house at least once a week now (other than work)
>thinking of getting back into bouldering. attending dance lessons currently
>see girls in the dance class talking to other guys and laughing with them
How do I get better? How can I make it?

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Read and apply in your daily live

It's over for you bro. Funny how people think you get more than 1 chance in life.

How do you go 33 years and not at least know how to talk to girls casually. Your fucked dude. Maybe you can find a milf but i heard they can smell the virgin on you.

20, same situation, help

Pls go take this shizzle to r9k.

>26 year old khv
>have no problem making people laugh, literally all day every day at work i make people laugh
>was the same in college, high school, etc
>still have never had friends
>always attempt to lightly flirt with girls and they arent creeped out immediately but it never goes anywhere anyway

>realize that talking to people actually pushes them away from me because of how eccentric and weird and autistic and ADD i am
>if i try to stay calm and quiet on purpose, people ask if im sick and whats wrong with me so i push people away that way as well

Thanks, will take a look

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>tfw 25 y/o kv
>fat, but lost 70 pounds recently
>people seem to like me, but i dropped out of high school to become a hikikimori and have never been able to fully recover from my social isolation/depression/isolation

this is copypizza by now

1. imagine who you want to be
2. be that person

Just B.E Entirely yourself.

not OP, but I want to be a rich Chad. how can I actually be one?

THIS! And Based!

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what if i have trouble with step one

Just start practicing talking to people bud.
32 year old here, I asked a girl out for the first time in my life like 6 weeks ago. Still dating, life is pretty awesome.
You can do it too.

I'm 22 how do I not end up like OP? I have a few friends how do I keep them and fine new ones, especially now that I graduated college?

got a date on the first try? nice

>Just start practicing talking to people bud.
who did you practice with? i rarely see people that i can talk to in the first place

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The sad thing is that making friends is like making money. You need some to make some. Nobody wants to address this, people always say just the same meaningless horseshit like 'b urself' and 'just strike up a conversation' even though they'd be mortified if a complete stranger came out of nowhere trying to be their friend.

How do I approach random grills? I can talk casually once I'm in conversation, but how do I start one?

That you need some kind of event to provide the correct context.

Eye contact, smile, then approach

>how to get at talking to people
Why dont you try to talk to people for fucking once

This usually gets me dismissed as a creep. Or ignored.

You do understand that this is worthless advise for anyone who's asking this question, correct? If you're asking how to talk to people, it means you don't know how to do it.

I'll help you OP. What is your job like? Where do you work?

Haha yea, 100% success rate bro.
It only took me 32 years to recognize when I wouldn't fail, also to stop being a pussy.

By practice I mean just talking to people. I worked in the same space as this girl for over a year before I felt comfortable enough to ask her out, even then one of her friends had to tell me I should before I gained the courage.

not even just a random stranger approaching them. if you try to do anything with people, whether in a friendly manner or say dating a girl, the moment they see you have no other friends its over

no one wants to be friends with or date a friendless person

hey lemme ask you as a 26 year old khv who has never asked a girl out in my life... are you a loser in other aspects of life, or was it just relationship-wise? also were you a virgin, or are you one of those "tons of sex in bars/clubs and the girl always asked me out before" chads

>hi
Is this too fucking hard?

first of all, i do say Hi. it's what comes next that's the hard part

secondly, there aren't that many people i talk to. you need friends to talk to, they can introduce you to their friends, etc.

Yea I was a loser in most aspects of life.
No social media presence, all my friends had moved on to new locations, had famiilies, etc. I went back to college at 29, and then started this job after. I still live with a parent, though I have a substantial savings thanks to it as I was preparing to decide between finishing out a degree in school, buying a house, or just renting and continuing to save some.
I was not a virgin, I lost that to a couple girls I met playing video games over the years. I never had a real in person local relationship.
By no means a chad.

>no social media presence
so what

That's considered abnormal in present day. People want to be able to look you up and learn about you, plus generally being social is seen as an attractive thing. It basically pseudo shows you aren't a recluse or a serial killer.

n-n-n-no

you must learn who you truly are before you can ever trust yourself enough to start relationships, you've come too far and have been creating the world around you in your head for too long and by learning who you are at your deepest point you can then start to relearn the world for what it actually is, other people cant like you or know you if you don't like or know yourself, because how can they ever see that person

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Put in the effort if you care enough about someone to learn things about them to talk about. People love to talk about themselves and if you show genuine interest in the things they like, they'll care more about the conversation.
Are you full on NEET? Use work, school, whatever to try talking to people who are in close proximity to you that you'll regularly see without having to try to set anything up and go from there.

accountant, big4 accounting firm
the company hires a large number of employees. there are many social events too (drinking at bars), i've been to a few and this is how it usually goes:
>leave the office and go to the bar alone, whereas coworkers usually go with their squad
>i grab a drink
>see group of coworkers talking
>walk over
>90% of time the topic is something i know nothing about (e.g. sports) or something i have no interest in
>i can't think of anything to say
>the group eventually disperses
>repeat for a couple more hours
>then everyone starts to leave, usually together, saying their goodbyes to their friends. sometimes overhear them planning to get food, go to another bar, etc.
>i leave alone, don't say bye to anyone
>cry on the way home

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>accountant, big4 accounting firm
fuck off you whiny rich faggot

>>have no problem making people laugh, literally all day every day at work i make people laugh
Maybe they're just laughing to be polite. Don't try to be a comedian. Don't be super grave and serious all the time either. Be relaxed.and even keeled. Let others make the joke and make one yourself once in a while.

>rich

i'm 33, making the same wage as coworkers who are 25
i live with my parents and commute 2+ hours each day

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Here's the thing. While very lucrative, being an accountant is a very boring, unimpressive job. This is why broke, drunk Chads fuck and beta provider accountants get the scraps.

My aunt gives this book to everyone when they graduate highschool, but I never bothered to read it because I don't need a book to make friends.

What is in it exactly?

This applies to every single STEM job that the majority of guys on this board seem to be aiming for btw.

CPA holders are the Chad executives though that are CEO's, CFO\s, VP's, Presidents and Controllers making money though.

>2+ hours each day
Kill yourself

Take the time to learn about the shit they're all interested in. It doesn't matter if you don't care, show you give enough of a shit to try to be a part of the group.
Also say Hello and Goodbye, make people aware of your presence and come off as a nice guy.

>Also say Hello and Goodbye, make people aware of your presence and come off as a nice guy.
tfw never say hello or goodbye to people

You're that weird guy everyone thinks is a sociopath

I have such a hard time picturing a legit Chad actually taking the steps to become something as lame sounding as a 'certified public accountant' but I guess they do.

i dont really try to be a "comedian", like i dont tell jokes or anything, just observational comments

yeah probably i am weird and ADD and always joking around

It's pretty much the typical suit in business meetings making business deals driving an expensive car who got a cushy six figure dad because daddy knew someone. Finance is a pretty similar path as well especially in IB.

do things that will make you chad
do things that will make you money

>CPA holders are the Chad executives though that are CEO's, CFO\s, VP's, Presidents and Controllers making money though.
>>being brainwashed by the CPA society advertising campaigns

>Kill yourself
take your own advice or were you just projecting?

Cut off your pony tail

okay, some tips.
Since you're the oldfag in the office, don't hit on the girls. First you have to find a circle. The natural thing would be to try to have mini-convos with the coworkers you work closer to. Say good morning. Say good bye. Don't linger for too long. Try asking for help with something, or be on the lookout to help someone else. In short, start by trying to have a nice, pleasant work environment. Maybe make a comment on the weather. Keep things professional. Memorize the other's names, and try to associate the names with a particular quirk. Always ask if someone wants a snack from the machine. Little things that say "I'm just friendly but not desperate for friendship." Little by little you will start having longer conversations and perhaps know people a bit.
Another tip: don't go for the women. Try to have some bros first, and try to go out in groups before trying to strike conversations with girls. Keep it VERY casual but friendly. Play safe.

I mean a CPA is literally a ticket to upper middle class life with little effort. If you're commuting 2 hours a day though you should actually kill yourself.

CPA and masters holders make more money. The company values them more. Even if it is not initially they rake in more money and we pay for there schooling.
>Director

don't have one

Keep thinking

What is a 'Chad' to you? What does he lift? What is his bodyfat %? How does he dress and conduct himself? Figure it out, then make a plan to connect your current self to those ideals.

tfw chad is tall and i'm a manlet

everything else is irrelevant

Be more handsome. But unironically for some guys you just have to keep pushing yourself, trying to get feedback, working on what you can control. 33 is not that old irl. I'm not that old but it would be wise for you if you wanna have relationships to set it as a priority now. You've gotta get past depression and desperation though user, you can't cure that shit with anything external.

>i live with my parents

So you have a huge advantage over them. Not only do you have 8 years head start on the 25 year olds, but you aren't burning 1-2k/month on rent. If you had just saved the $1k/month you otherwise would've spent on rent over the past 8 years, you'd have $96,000 saved up, enough to have a solid down payment on a property pretty much anywhere.

There are people who actually try hard with real estate and have multiple rental properties by 33. You can't even own your own residence? Sad.

This what do you do with your shekels OP?

aint that the truth this is the robbery of the new generations

>can't afford a house? rent it

>can't afford a car? lease it

>cant a afford new phone? monthly rental plan

spend spend spend every month, never own anything, the new american dream

i started my career late (only have 4 or 5 years of income ahead of peers really), and had to repay student loans. i've been saving more than $1k/month though.

i have about $100k saved. not enough for a 20% downpayment in toronto

20% downpayment on what? sounds like you're shopping out of your price range

just a 1BR condo

not him but canada has fucked house prices because of gooks

My problem is not that I am shy, it is that I am genuinely no interested in other people and find them boring and annoying to deal with.

When I did have friends I felt annoyed and overwhelmed and bored by having to be their friend.

I know this is bad for me to be socially isolated and withdrawn but I don’t care enough to fix it because people are annoying

>just read this book. It'll solve all your problems

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are you in australia?

guidelines on how to get friends and influence others.

>just read this book
You forgot the part that said 'apply'