Honest thoughts on vegans and veganism?

Honest thoughts on vegans and veganism?

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ive kinda been considering trying out a vegan diet but not for the animal shit, just for the general health benefits.

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Meat is the most efficient way to get protein, calories and vital nutrients. I don't understand why anyone would try to get protein from plants when it's so available in animals.

Pretty dumb and vegans who say it's a completely natural diet are fucking retarded and it seems to draw the mentally ill

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>falling for the vegan meme

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in my experience it feels great, but only by implementing more vegan meals in the day. I still eat meat and shit

it's awful

I thought it was a potentially good way to detox until I learned about fasting. I also thought you could 'train your gut flora' until I found out more about prebiotics and probiotics. Some of the recipes you see are all right as a side dish.

>deficiencies, not building muscle mass, skin color
>"health benefits"

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Unironically the way humans are meant to be. We're born vegan until we're (((educated))) into believing animal products are acceptable to consume

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Breast milk doesn’t come from a plant user.

Over emotional children that are so sheltered they cant deal with life therefore seek to make everyone as weak and insufferable as they are

weak bait

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After living 8 months with my ex-vegan girlfriend (she was vegan at the time), i have now started eating raw beef and a dozen eggs everyday. Feel 2195712 times better so veganism is a meme

A product of modern culture and its focus on empathy for others, including animals.

Im not going vegan but i often try out interesting vegiterian/vegan dishes when eating out. Often theyr pretty tasty desu

Why not just fucking cook it?

Sounds good, doesn't work always
You need to have perfect genetics to be vegan.
If you don't have perfect genetics you'll have trouble converting
>Carotenoids -> Retinol
>Vitamin K1 -> Vitamin K2 (mk4)
>ALA -> EPA/DHA
>make enough cholesterol and vitamin D3
and it will be extremly hard to get
>B12 without supplements
>zinc, iron, calcium since they're mainly found in animal foods or are bound to oxalates or phytic acid

Correct if I'm wrong or if I missed out on something

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Everything is tasty with enough salt, fat, and MSG. Most restaurants also lie about flavorings used in vegan dishes.

A lot of people have trouble getting enough iron just while eating meat, try people who have low metabolism and only eat vegetables lol

you forgot sugar and the crazy amount of spices they use

how are spices an issue you giga autist

Makes you live longer, gives you less gains. Your choice.

If it makes you happy, go ahead but don't act like I'm a serial killer nazi because I like meat.
I tried a vegan diet but after about a month I noticed that I'm not as strong as I used to be even though my weight did not change, for some reason my nose was always stuffy and I would wake up in the middle of the night because I couldn't breath through the nose which sucked a lot and I would wake up tired.
Once I went back to getting most of my protein from meat, the stuffy nose issue went away and so I abandoned the idea of ever going vegan again.

not an issue but this is how you make food hyperpalatable

random unsourced illogical claim? yep that's a meat eater

reddit.com/r/veganfitness

Not for me, but hey, they do what the hell they like.

vegan butter has 100% of ala in tablespoon

I take flax oil for omegas 3 6 & 9

I take ashwaganda for T

I have high T

b12 and calcium are in most plant milks.
zinc iron and calcium are all more present in greens (broccoli or spinach) than animal foods.

Also what's wrong with supplements? I take a multivitamin just to be safe but I never had any problems when I wasn't taking anything.

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anyone who's actually been vegan can tell your post is bullshit, there are other more drastic changes you'd notice way before anything like that.

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>there are other more drastic changes you'd notice way before anything like that.

What are those?

>I support animals being immobilized in cages suffering so I can eat them
Woah, what a chad.

Jon venus' wife is fucking ugly.

>100% ALA
>1% conversion rate ALA>DHA
>thinking plant milk naturally has b12

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pooping takes 1 second.

you don't get hangovers anymore unless you reach vomiting levels.

skin gets super clear.

personally I got a higher sex drive+beard, research has made me think this is because I consume more polysaturated fats and nut fats.

funny I eat meat and got superpowers and lots of pussy and became a millionaire

>vegan "butter"
>refined seed oils
>enriched plant milk
>supplements
plant diets could never work without industrial production of artificial foods

DHA is produced by plants retard. meat eaters have to eat a lot of fish everyday or sup it. vegans could just sup it.

this is to be compared to a supplemented omnivore diet. you don't need to do that. I know whole food vegans and raw vegans. the raw vegans are retarded but the whole food vegans mog me and eat for like a dollar a day

you consume more nut fats alright

>DHA is produced by plants retard
should we tell him Jow Forums?

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DHA is produced by algae and eaten by fish. I'm not even vegan but you're a fucking retard.

the only reason to eat vegan IS the animal shit. there are no health benefits over a normal or even a vegetarian diet. a vegan diet will lead to defiencies unless you supplement.

spoken like someone who's never been vegan. you don't need supplements.

I have an idea: why don't you just lower your meat intake and eat more veggies, but still eat both, eating slightly more veggies than meat?

By having to eat less meat you can research what companies treat animals in a less shit way than others, additionally it means you can buy the more expensive shit because you're eating less of it in the first place.

You meat better quality meat, from places where they don't buttfuck animals with spiked dildoes, you eat more veggies than you used to, everything works out.
Why does everything have to be so complicated with you retards?

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looks like a fish is nibblin' on my bait

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lowering your cholesterol, the number one predictor for heart disease, is not a health benefit?

>gets facts wrong
>>b-baited hahah

veganfag for 10+ years here. Yes, most vegans are retarded. Unfortunately, the diet attracts a lot of mentally ill people. That does not mean it does not have benefits though.

I believe it's the healthiest way of eating, and I am doing it mostly for that (not that I don't like animals and everything, but that's a secondary concern). That said, there's a ton of unhealthy shit out there that people need to avoid. For a general guideline, avoid processed sugars and fats, and stay with the starchy foods.

For those 10 years, I've been both lean and fat. Weak and strong too. Being vegan by itself will not help you achieve your health or fitness goals. You need more than that (eat healthy vegan meals and exercise!). Many people don't do it and go with the "oh, but I'm vegan" cope. That's how you get abominations like fatgayvegan.com. Don't be that person!

Alright blog post over. Hope it does somebody some good.

I know a vegan who has Crohn's disease.

A match made in hell.

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RIP to that nigga's bowels

He's like 6'5" too, lanklet max and looks like a corpse with his sunken face.

Is he tired during the day? All that fiber could cause malabsorption in some cases.

it is literally the most inefficient way in terms of resources lol

Vegans are one of the most delusional two-faced mentally ill people you could encounter.
Fighting till death against the horrible conditions of chickens while at the same time pretending like the horrible conditions of underage underfed preteen little kids who make their shirts and assemble their iphones don't exist at all. Pretending like mass market vegetable growing is "natural" and "organic", acting like Pedro gives a single fuck about veganism and isn't killing and spraying thousands of insects, rodents and birds that get near his crops. Or that your precious avocado wasn't the product of mexican cartels extorting hundreds of mexican families. Applying their arguments only for one side, for example all the fuckload of ex vegans who stopped being vegan their strong argument is that's because "they didn't do it properly", but they don't apply the same "eat properly" argument when talking about meat eaters and will frequently sell studies about obese amerilards eating nothing but pizza, ice cream and soda as standard meat eaters and yell CANCER HEART DISEASE YOU'LL DIE yeah no shit if you're shoving processed meats and sugar on the daily.

In short, champions of never ending confirmation bias mental gymnastics

>not just using sips for your vitamin b intake

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Political ideology larping as a diet

If you dont eat enough, sure. That can all be said about meat eaters as well. The deficiency argument always makes me laugh though since I'd say almost the entire population of earth is deficient in a lot of vitamins and minerals regardless of diet