/OVERHEAD PRESS GENERAL/ - The king of lifts

/OVERHEAD PRESS GENERAL/ - The king of lifts.

185x5 OHP:

Impressive or no?

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>185
Never seen anyone in my gym go above 60kg so yes I would say so, even the roiders don't go that high.

Impressive on the gym, not impressive in comp

>tfw DYEL twink stuck at 75lbs

This fucking lift is so difficult to progress, especially because I have a shitty right shoulder, but I am going to push through to at least 100lbs before I give it up. I need to fucking eat more.

Here are two tips for OHP

1: Try to push the weight backwards

2: the fatter/bigger you are the more you will OHP

Behind the neck is better because you can’t cheat and make it incline press like most of these faggots do

Press 1.0, 2.0 or 3.0?
Also, should I move the press to the start of my workout? I have knee pain so I figured I would lay off the squats and did a 2 kilo jump on the press because of that. Squats fucking destroy me

Give me a good reason or two as to why I should do this with a barbell instead of just doing it with dumbbells.

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After platueing at 120x5 I deloaded, and because I'm doing SL it said to switch to 3x3. I deloaded but instead did 5x8. I just got back to 120 and did 5x7 so obviously it worked, but I'm wondering is there any negative aspect to doing highish reps on strength training. Next time I might have to go 6 reps on 125. Will that still give me progressive overload.

It's a compound so it should definitely be near the start.

I believe it's genetic, my 1rm on strict OHP is 70kg same as my bench and I'm a twink (with broad shoulders and small-ish chest).

Ego.

Do you guys count the bar when you state how much you OHP?

Yes. I also include the weight of both of my arms because they are going over my head as well.

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The bar stabilizes your lifts. The more weight (i.e. mass) in the bar, the more stabilization. It's basic physics. This is the same reason why a heavier gun will have less recoil than a lighter gun given the same caliber of ammunition.
Because of this most people on Jow Forums subtract the weight of the bar before reporting their lifts.

I got stuck at 95 pounds for the longest time. I could not break 100 pounds with linear progression. I started adding in way more volume after my heavy sets and started doing push presses with controlled, slow negatives. Now I press 170 and I've push pressed 195

If you keep progressing eventually you won't be able to get the dumbells up. Safer to ditch a lift in squat rack than haphazardly throwing dumbells all over the place.

So, for example let's say you do a bench press with 4 plates (20kg or 45 lbs). This is actually known as "2 pl8" because there are two plates on each side of the bar. That's 80 kg or about 180 pounds worth of plates. Some people think "2 pl8" is 100 kg or 225 lbs. But you have to subtract the stabilizing weight of the bar from the weight of the plates. So it's actually a 60 kg or 135 lbs lift.

Pretty good I think. My 1rm is 87,5 kg. Havent repped out 83,5.

105x5

>mfw can barely progress OHP
>can barely OHP more than 40kg

How do I get better?

This bait actually made my brain hurt.

Thanks for the tip, man. I was doing GSLP 3x5, but now I'm doing OHP 5x5 at the start of every workout, just banging my fucking head against this lift until I get stronger.

see volume and overload was the most important thing I did to improve my ohp

You really rarely see reps above 1 plate at gyms. Roiders don't generally bother with barbell ohp.

all the roiders do is weird cable shit

225 1rm
185x5

I literally feel so weak in OHP even though i've never seen anyone do more than me in the gym

Nice try trying to steal my stats fucker

Heavy bench press literally trains the same muscles and more. Why the fuck would i OHP, eventually you can Push Press so you can atleast train your core

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I can do 2 plate or 135 lbs

>1: Try to push the weight backwards
careful with this one, easy to throw yourself off balance that way

>2 plate or 135 lbs

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except it will destroy most peoples shoulders.

About to attempt 110 3x5 tomorrow boys wish me luck

I'm close to this but doing 90lbs 4x8 instead

longer range of motion, requires much more core stability since you're actually standing, works traps significantly more and works lateral and rear delts to a small degree so it could help promote gaining boulder shoulders. Also there is something that just feels really good about lifting heavy weight above your head.

That all being said if you don't enjoy a lift there's 0 reason to do it.

What finally helped me was adjusting sets to 5-8, and not worrying about doing the same weight or reps across sets.

so, which can you do?

135 lbs(or 90 lbs not counting the bar), which is 2plate

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2 plate would mean 2 plates on each side, not 2 plates in total. 135lb is 1 plate

yeah, 1 plate on each side. that's why its called 1 plate. idk why people mix this up. ego lifting?>

your wrong, 135 lbs is 2plate because there's two plates in total

I'm at 180lbs 5RM. I hope to one day hit a 1RM of lmao2plate.

???

when are you ever gonna lift 1 plate?

two 10 kg plates on each side make up one plate in total. It's not that hard come on

what? when i'm talking about my lifts i always say the total weight or like "yesterday i benched 40kg each side on bench"

this doesn't account for different bar weights though. For example, the bar in my gym weighs 40 kg instead of the regular 15 kg

I did 90kg strict press once when messing with the bois at the gym. I power cleaned it and strict pressed it. Most i've done/ tried. I do oly

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It was just bait, I don't see how it makes sense to do anything other than just add up the total weight. Bar plus plates equals weight.

>ohp
>comp

>bench trains the same muscles
>ohp doesnt train core
based retard

Bad meme. It will only accentuate existing issues like rounded shoulders, underdeveloped posterior deltoids and lack of shoulder flexibility, among others. If anything it's a more complete and effective exercise which hits all three heads of the shoulder more equally. If you can be bothered to work on shoulder mobility, warm up properly and train the movement starting light, I guarantee BTN will be better for your training than regular OHP.

most i ever got was 165 for 3 reps but that was around febuary. just started lifting weights 2 weeks ago and im at 145 now. handstand pushups are fun

I can do 100 lbs for reps now and I feel like I got some more solid gains ahead before I hit a plateau. 135 is definitely the goal.

Are you legitimately retarded?
1 Plate is and has always been 60kg. Gtfo noob.

I’m stuck around 100 3x5 T_T

This is some advanced baiting, 8/10

I never bothered with it because I felt I would fuck up my shoulders but everyone here talking about it convinced me to put it in my pressing routines. I don't think I've seen anyone else at the gym do it and I can do 5x5 145 at the end of my lifting session. Should I push for more at the start of my session?

Almost at 1pl8
125 x 8 this morning

depends, how much you weigh?

is specially easier to do small increments by using the barbell than by using the dumbbells, but the dumbbells keep any muscular imbalance at bay.

tl;dr do barbell if you're doing strenght, dumbbell if you're going for aesthetics.

I've seen seen someone do 225x5 in a regular commercial gym.

If you don't have olympic tier shoulder mobility, this shit WILL fuck you up

Fuck you I worked so hard to go from barely 1 pl8 max to 2 pl8

He can do either one

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that's because you're not ohping

>Made it to one pl8 in 4 month of lifting
>still progressing
A-Am I awaited in Valhalla?

redpilled post

based and barpilled

Yeah, I think that's right where it starts getting impressive, seems about equal to benching 315 for 1. (I feel my the Press lags behind my bench btw but I'm guessing, don't really know what the usual ratio is.)

t. 185 5-rep PR
t. 210 1-rep PR
t. 355 bench PR