I'm about to buy some shit off nootropics depot. Thinking of some l-theanine+caffeine and some phenibut

Phenibut is a miracle chemical. Be sure to check out Phenibut FAA, Fluorophenibut, and Picamilon as well.

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I've been taking phenibut everyday for the last couple weeks, it pretty much gets rid of my social anxiety. It's a life saver.

I've heard it has diminishing returns though which is sad, like it'll lead me to finding something stronger. But it's really nice to not feel total anxiety every waking second. I recommend it highly

>>Vinpocetine

Gimme a quick rundown on this one, it comes up occasionally.

You need to stop and not take it more than twice a week. The addiction will make your life very hard.

it's a semi synthetic compound from some flower that increases blood flow and oxygen to the brain. It's great. More effective than Ginkgo Biloba, but does not increase circulation to the rest of your body like Ginkgo does.

All of these things are to be treated as a treatment to your brain, don't stay on them forever.

>>All of these things are to be treated as a treatment to your brain, don't stay on them forever.

Of course, but God gave us these plants, substances, and knowledge to help us. Even bad things (like Heroin) are useful when used therapeutically.

We should use His creation respectfully.

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Phenibut negatively affects coordination, and is neurotoxic long term. The withdrawals are horrendous, and it has fuckall to do with lifting.

Think of it as powdered alcohol.

You're gonna realize how fucked you are when you stop taking it daily.. Turn back now

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Just started taking adrafinil (modalfinil) my focus is definitely better, head is a more calm. Still feel the same but doing shit and lazerihg my focus is better. Can’t mix it with weed or I can’t control the focus lol. I think stacking it would be better

Phenibut is not a nootropic, don't kid yourself. I'm taking some right now.

It's a drug like any other. Highly addictive, stay away

Won’t he have unbearable anxiety after?

I find the sensation to be pretty different, since Phenibut is a GABA b agonist, while alcohol is a GABA a PAM.

wait really? is it that serious?

Very much so.

Not OP but someone that dabbles in nootropics here.

I've tried:
>Phenibut (literally just a drug. I stay away from this)
>L-Theanine (Highly recommend this. Allows me to feel calm and relaxed yet functional)
>KSM-66 (I take this after I cum and it shortens the reset, or I just take it to feel high male vitality)
>Oxyracetam (only tried briefly. I can remember audio visuals and improved memory)
>Aniracetam (Hard to tell what the effect is but I use it as a math major and find math concepts easier to learn)
>Lions Mane Mushroom (In general I feel like this cleans out my system. If I take a 2x to 3x dose I feel a 'third eye' opening effect where I am more optimistic and open to experiences. Overall I just feel healthier taking this)

Is there anything else I should try?
I pretty much only take L-theanine, KSM-66, and aniracetam occasionally now.

Rumor is that phenylpiracetam is pretty good.

Yes. It is not a "nootropic", it is a drug and you've been taking it daily. When you stop, the withdrawal most likely will be brutal, but you will have to endure it for the best of your health.
Quit it and stay off for months, then use it as a drug occasionally and responsibly. Once a week is almost too much already.

Damn, that sucks to hear. I feel like it's been very helpful for my anxiety. I'm using PhenylGABA 500mg, about 2 pills a day. I don't use it on weekends.

Going to try to cut down and only use it when I need to.

tianeptine sulfate. Hide my depression with a high stress job. Helps me with both. Not to mention it has some IBS relief if something I eat upsets me.

surprised no one's said Ashwagandha, but i recommend that too

It will be more helpful if you don't become an addict. I use it very sparingly and I can feel affects on 750mg. There are people who are so addicted they take 3+g a day just to feel normal. Do not fall into that trap.

I also mentioned in this thread some other things to test out: Phenibut FAA, and Fluorophenibut. They are similarly addictive, but you might like their properties better.

Furthermore, if you need some natural anxiolytics, look at pic related (including Ashwagandha).

Good luck & God bless.

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Seems like you are capable of restricting its usage to important social interactions, I wish you good luck. Just never abuse it.

I get in locked zone for hours. It makes me wish i was in a marathon to death with others

yeah akin to low does rit. or dex.

let me repear myself. LOW DOSE RIT OR DEX!

no matter how much more phenyl you take you wont get the same affects, but still amazing for a day off when you need a lil extra boost in motivation and learning

Modafinil, dexamphetamine, ritalin, adderall, vyvanse, concerta
Take your pick
But only if you want something that isn't a meme

This

I’ve tried a lot. They’re all junk.

Don't take phenibut you nigger. The withdrawal and side effects are not worth it.

Really? My wife has been giving my son this for his anxiety. You buy it online, I doubt this side effect is as severe as you say.

>imagine being this impatient and self aware

I think there's some theory on therapeutic daily dosing, but at typical use doses (1+g) you will be an addict extremely quickly.

ruskies who are prescribed this for anxiety take it daily, but in like 150-300mg doses at most

Ksm-66 is ashwagandha

It's a very light drug. Even after months off two or three grams is an ok buzz (and then you get nausea after). I only really like it in low amounts or as a hangover cure.

But I've take 1-2 grams a day for months at a time and tapering was hardly noticeable.

Theanine never did anything for me, I wish I knew why

I’m a big fan of NSI-189 for studying, just kills stress so you can sit and get work done without getting distracted

>I’m a big fan of NSI-189 for studying, just kills stress so you can sit and get work done without getting distracted

What's your NSI-189 source? Kinda hard to find.

1.8mg?

how do you even measure that

this can literally kill you
or at least damage your brain/kidneys/liver

What's the optimal way to take this shit ? I have some in my desk but since most of people say that i have to take it on an empty stomach (8h+), i never have the right timing

God tier work combo:

1 gram of piracetam with 250mg re-up doses applied later
150mg alpha GPC
5-10mg dextro amphetamine, titrated for optimum dose and re-ups with 2.5mg doses
25-50mgs caffeine
200mg l-theanine
Add 500mg - 1 gram phenibut if easily over stimulated
Oral nicotine. For people without tolerance a quarter of a 2mg gum wrapped in another stick will work fine.

I never found the other racetams did anything piracetam didn't.

If you don't have dextroamphetamine or anything perscription adrafanil works for some people, or epehedrine.

Keep doses very low and titrate. You're not getting high. High doses of these mixed will make you fucking miserable or geeked.

Nothing in phenibut metabolism says it should be particularly dangerous to mix with alcohol. As with mixing benzos with alcohol, the risk is respitory depression or choking on vomit. That or injuring yourself while blacked out.