Tfw you realize the Self is an illusion

Every night when you go to sleep, you die. Then the next morning, somebody else wakes up thinking it's you.

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Wow that's deep...i'm really thinkin here

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Most retarded thing ive read all day

The existence of anything outside of our mind is cannot be proven. Therefore what the mind thinks is reality.

What's up with your image naming convention?

cant wait to sleep tonight

The neurons that make up your brain regenerate very quickly so that after a while all your material that makes up your brain is replaced.
Imagine a machine that recreates every single cell in your brain, in a way that it will create a person that thinks it's "you" as much as you think you are "you", with all the memories "you" had before the clone was created.

Who is the real "you"?

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Your question is only meaningful if a third party perspective truly exists - but that is unknowable.

Ive actually always thought this way. (You) as you exist in this moment is just the sum of the chemicals in your brain composing your mood and the memories that are readily available to you and this changes daily as the neurons in your brain degrade, memories fade and new ones replace them as well as the chemicals that make up your personality change. Therefore it is not the final death which is the most tragic but the thousand other (you)s that perish between.

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What if we divide your brain in two like when people cut the corpus callosum for epilepsy patients? Your consciousness is divided in two there.

wow how convenient that happens and there is no way to prove it or disprove it and also there is no difference in outcome, wow, learn something new every day!

LOST. orgynal

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how many times do kids have to "discover" this "high IQ" concept?

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hey guys
gcp grey, colin here
did you know that death is terrible and we as intelligent living beings should do everything we can to avoid it? even death by old age is unacceptable for the thinking man like myself.

I'm just introducing new ideas to people in a palatable way so that they will do more research.

Read Derek Parfit if you want a full discussion on personal identity

>new ideas

these ideas are old as shit user.

What I'm alluding to is the "Brain in a vat" idea.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat

Because we cannot view reality outside of our mind we then we can always answer the question "who are you" with "I (my thoughts) am me". If you assume you could observe the universe from a third party perspective outside of the filter of a mind then these questions become more reasonable, but because we're always limited to observing the universe from a mind then we can always answer the question for ourselves.

If we extend the question to other supposedly conscious entities then we first have to answer the question, what is reality? Is it what we perceive to be real or do we state that their is an absolute reality that is true though unknowable?

Hopefully I'm making sense and not just sounding like a massive pompous faggot.

I thought about this when I was high as fuck.

If a brain exists solely on its own, what would that be like? You'd have no sense of time, no sense of anything. It would just be eternal existence

>I thought about this when I was high as fuck.
That about sums this thread up.

new to them, that was my point

Can you tell me exactly what makes "you" right now and "you" when you were 2 years old the "same person".

Is it your memories? Is it the fact that it's "your body/brain"?
Keep in mind your brain and body replaces itself completely very often.

If this is so easy for you it should be easy to answer.

>Hopefully I'm making sense and not just sounding like a massive pompous faggot.
no it was clear

Not who you responded to but since I like debating philosophy I'll throw in my own argument.

Your question is loaded because it assume the existence of a past. If the past does not truly exist then there is no "me when I was two years old" to be the same person as.

Makes sense. But in that scenario the Self is an illusion. This thread was about whether the Self is an illusion or not, and your scenario is one where it is indeed an illusion, just like the one I proposed.

In the context of the thread then you're absolutely right. I was just having a little side musing I guess.