/csg/ - Combat Sports General

reminder that grappling is how cowards fight

yeah das rite! fuck actual discussion, send it to other boards! only incel r9k-tier feel threads are allowed to be posted on fit!

Shut the fuck up you beta grappler

go to your faggot board before I hit you

guys i dont have money for boxing courses. if i just do bagwork at the end of my workouts will my punching power increase. i have watched tutorials on proper jab, cross, hook and uppercut form.

Can you learn how to box well without sparring/getting hit in the head? Can you learn how to fight well at all without sparring and getting hurt?

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punching bag will help

>6th ish lesson now on boxing
>footwork is almost okay
>basics of "upper cut" "side punch" almost correct
>focussing more on speed and/or combination of them
>direct ones are ez to do
>briefly sparred with an experienced one and was quite fun as to how the mindgame works, also the speed of the sides and direct punches felt absurd.

I want to become an all rounded over a couple of years, did I do well to choose this sport as my first one? Maybe branch out to kickboxing, and MMA in a couple of years? Read the book "violence of mind" by varg freeborn too to keep my meme faggotry to a minimum.

What art do you do? Unless you're doing greco roman wrestling I'd be wary. Judo guys are good at taking a fall too. I would not start doing suplexes unless my partner is good at falling or we've gone over the technique in class.
That said I have my hands full learning basic takedowns, maybe you are more experienced than me. Also I don't want to be that guy who injures his partners trying stuff he saw on youtube.

eat shit faggot
go back to your "feels: boohoo tfw no gf :(" thread

You don't need to practice powerful takedowns in full force. It's actually better to do it slowly as it takes more strength. Also IRL if you suplexed someone you are going to jail and getting sued lol grappling is to gain control of a situation

Yeah who the hell wants to talk about hobbies we use our muscles and bodies for? We need space for more nofap and manlet threads, fuck fitness.

No. If you don't spar you won't learn positioning, timing, or how to defend yourself from strikes. Just suck it up and spar.

I just won't. i don't want brain damage

yo can anyone help me out?

Taekwando has really great value in the off-chance you manage to get a kick in while fighting. My kicks are god tier thanks to it.

If you think you are going to get brain damage during sparring you might want to reconsider doing a combat sport at all, lol

How often should I wash my gi? I go twice a week and usually both times I get a lil blood on it. It costs me money to wash clothes and its annoying so I don't want to be washing my shit 24/7.
Is once a week good enough? Can I get away with less?
I also wear clothes underneath to keep the gi cleaner for longer.

You won't get brain damage during light sparring you total goddamn pussy. Why are you even interested in learning to fight? It's clearly not for you.

WASH IT AFTER EVERY TRAINING

TMA on their own because they don't have regular sparring are useless on their own, but tma that do have sparring usually have atleast a few elements that can be very useful in a fight or in more effective combat sports

Just have it with you in the shower a bit to clean out the sweat, blood stains add character

I cant get away with every second training? Even if I'm weaing shit beneath it to stop it getting soaked in sweat?

No. It doesn't matter what you wear underneath when you're rolling with 5 different guys and mixing their (and the mat's) sweat and AIDS into your gi.
If you're going twice a week buy another gi and wash them at the same time.

Unity pls go

You're not going to get brain damage. Just prioritize defence and do not spar when you are concussed. You have to realise that a lot of these old boxers with brain damage simply trained/fought like dumb asses, sometimes fighting multiple times a day, sparring every day.

Your punching power will improve but you probably pick up some bad punching habits that you wont un-learn without a trainer

There's an MMA gym nearby that teaches Muay Thai and BJJ. I'm really interested in Muay Thai, but I don't want to get scammed. How can I tell if the gym is worth paying for?

How often should I wash my belt, at the same time as my gi?

Yes. Some people think it's sacrilege to wash their belt for some dumb traditional reasons, but the belt carries ringworm too so throw that fucker in.

Jow Forums approved:
Wrestling
BJJ
Boxing
Muay Thai
Anything else is trash

>footwork almost okay
You will soon realize how much practice you need to really get decent footwork

>Your punching power will improve
It won't be that much of an improvment, 90% of the power comes from good technique, unless you're a genetic freak like Wilder
No, you need real contact experience and light sparring could help you if you don't want to go hard. You get punch drunk if you are a pro and after thousands and thousands of hits to the head, not if you're a hobbyist,

Do they train people that compete? Successfully?

>Read the book "violence of mind" by varg freeborn too to keep my meme faggotry to a minimum.
ironically this post is full of meme faggotry, your six boxing lessons in and your trying to analyse your technique like a pro.

well the book just put an emphasis to try to learn your fundamentals, your basics best and not to expect too much from the training in it being too useful in real life. Lots of talk about how footwork being important, and to go in a fight expecting, and working towards plausible self defense really.

It also presents the training progress through some paradigm I forgot the name off. Its obvious that you didnt read the book and are just looking for commentary on it by shitposting on me lol.

The website says they do but nothing specific, I'm pretty sure the actual retired MMA fighter doesn't teach there because he has like 3-4 gyms in this area.

My son is in a kids MMA class (for 5 year olds, they do some basic striking, practice breaking holds, etc)

He's getting old enough to go to a different class that's a little more advanced. They basically have a grappling (BJJ esque) class and a striking (kickboxing) class. I'm leaning grappling, but wanted to see if anyone has experience training from child.

If you get the chance to do a suplex during sparring just lift him up letting him know you can throw him and put him down

You shouldn't practise takedowns slowly for strenght. A good takedown is about timing and explosive power.

Why is non-Kyokushin Karate bad?

>47827598
except your thinking way too much about it for a beginner. you dont have the tools to apply any of that information.

Why am I thinking too much? All I keep thinking is "follow the trainers instruction" "dont try to improvise too much" "dont be flamboyant" "the book says that you should build on the basics, and the basics I am doing now" "you dont know shit about this sport", "focus on the correct way to execute the techniques" "ask the others in the boxing school, or just look at them what they do"

basically. How is this any meme crap? The book just sets the proper expectations for long term training to be proficient in something. If I didnt have this book I could have stumbled across a couple of mistakes probably.

I've taught students of all ages and it is my opinion that it isn't worth teaching a kind who is not at least nine years old, and that kid must be an exceptional nine year old. Any younger than that and I think gymnastics is a better investment for future development.

Do you wash your normal belts?

>BJJ
>no judo
Go do more buttscoots faggot

I wash it about once a week. I'm only a white belt with no stripes though.

Good infographic.
Liveliness is good, but most TMA doesn't have it. Maybe the infograpich should have ablurb as well?
More focus on kata, point fighting etc. with little proper sparring. Ultimately it depens on the gym though as other poster pointed out

Talk to your sparring partners. If you have doubts about certain throws, ask them if they're comfortable being thrown (with that particular throw) and how hard you guys can go.

Save up or ask if you can train or get a discount in exchange for cleaning or something.

TKD can be a decent base for a different striking art, but it's not great on it's own. I used to have a kickboxing coach who did TKD before, and he had som brutal kicks in his aresenal.

That's fucking disgusting user You're going to get MRSA and ringworm and spreadit to your gym. Wash it every time! If you don't have money, get a small plastic tub and wash it by hand.
Every time, it's cloth and no different than the gi.
Wash your fucking belt user

>no judo, kickboxing or sambo

>Do you have a lot of money?
KEK Can confirm. Work out in a mouldy gym under a train-track.

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Judo and Sambo are fine bro.

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Picking a sports means actually getting there to train. Sambo and slav stuff may work, but it's useless to wank thinking about it if there's no gym to learn it. Special mentions for hipsters taking chinese stuff when there's a MT or boxing gym nearby

Starting wrestling in a few weeks brahs, any tips/pointers? I know there's a lot of former wrestlers here.

Like others said, for suplex just lift him up and let him know you were going to suplex him and put him back down. Most people do this where I train, I never see a full slam suplex in training outside of leading up to competition days

Always be the aggressor and never think that your gonna get beaten , you've already lost if you do.

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Same as TKD, got fucked over by the business aspect (kids classes) and the ruleset (point sparring, no full contact, etc)

Kyokushin doesn't seem to have succumbed to that yet

Yeah I'd agree with that, my kicks are way ahead of people I do MT with now

It'd be fine if people with a solid striking base took it up as kind of a specialist study in kicking, in the same way BJJ is a specialist study in groundwork

What's expensive about BJJ?

REMINDER:
McGregor is going to ice Khabib in round 1.

>McGregor is going to ice Khabib in round 1.

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BJJ clubs tend to charge $$$ because it's popular atm

Also the gi can be expensive.

Judo is cheap af by comparison. Weirdly I've also found that full MMA clubs (that do boxing, MT, BJJ etc) can be cheaper than pure BJJ clubs, no idea why

First, Do your gym work on breakfalls? I mean not the usual 3 forward rolls, but also backward and side breakfall? I suppose you do and know how too. If not, no use to try to supplex your partners.
As said, lift your partner up and let them go slowly down. Deconstruct the move in its different phase and work on them separatly
Despite the mcdojo stench of the following video, the guy can actually breakfall properly
youtube.com/watch?v=jpTk_PpSHso
The first 5 minutes of this video are very useful too regarding breakfalls. It is a great video overall, but a little bit too long

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I have an insanely small wrist and hand like women tier (i am 5'7), would this harm me if i started doing boxing or mma?

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In boxing you'd be put against people with similar height issues so no you'd be alright bud

I like McGregor but there's just no way he's winning the fight at all, let alone in round 1. This fight is a publicity stunt for his newly released whiskey, which is all he cares about atm (look at his twitter). He couldn't give a fuck about the UFC. He himself likely doesn't even entertain any idea of winning . Meanwhile on the other side is the best grappler in the world with superhuman condition who's never lost a round and it's at the peak of his career.
They could fight 10 times and Khabib would win all 10.

Problem is my hand is insanely small even for my height. But i mean, if its smaller, it should hurt more if i connect because the strenght+smaller size means the area affected has more impact,no?

>superhuman condition
Lmao any professional boxer would make Khabib collapse from exhaustion

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To be honest user at your level and at mine it probably wont make a difference. The power comes from your body anyway. Probably makes it harder to block if they're really really tiny

What do you anons think of Firas Zahabi's philosophy for combat sports athletes and strength and conditioning?

Essentially doing enough of a workout to feel good, but not enough to feel sore - so you have the energy for your main focus (skill acquisition)

I do Judo and BJJ. Been going the gym every day for a few weeks now (previously nothing, except for a few years ago when I did SS for a while at uni) and I'm feeling a lot better honestly.

I train Judo and BJJ on the same nights 3 nights a week. In the gym I just alternate cardio/yoga and light compounds with some accessories.

I do core, neck, bridges and face pulls every day for imbalances/posture shit though

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Turbonoob at MT here, but I like the idea it's basically just the old consistency over intensity argument which I think is pretty valid. However I reckon for someone like Firas, his idea of just enough is probably still quite intense.

The actual ideal intensity is probably different for everyone depending on your pain tolerance/discipline/ fitness level or whatever but as long as you leave enough in the tank to come back the next day you're good.

anyone have a recommendation for a lowkey place to do some form of martial art in nyc?

t. former meme-tkd black-belt

Khabib's training routine includes him wrestling five professional wrestlers in a row, one by one until they give up from exhaustion.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMdAeEeh6M

Yeah I agree, I mean his training methods helped create GSP, one of the absolute best conditioned fighters in the UFC, so I'm sure it's pretty intense

Renzo's or Marcelo's

>two of the biggest high traffic names in the biz in one of the biggest fucking cities
>lowkey
thanks

get rekt you autist why do you want it to be low key do you want to imagine yourself as some sort of secret ninja training in some guy's garage

every gracie and mcdonalds bjj school in nyc is a fucking tiger schulman playpen zoo that's why you fucking chromosome dumpster

Smooth bottoms of the wrestling shoes will help you pivot faster adding power and speed to your punches

jesus marcelos gis are fucking hideous

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Anyone else doing a strength routine alongside their training? What's your weekly schedule look like?

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Literally irrelevant till you’ve had several months learning technique

I do a PHUL program
Monday- heavy upper
Tuesday- hypertrophy lower b4 judo
Wednesday- rest( trying to add some stretching or yoga)
Thursday-hypertrophy upper b4 judo
Friday- heavy lower b4 judo
Saturday- Sparring judo since we have a competition in a few weeks
Sunday- rest
Thinking about adding a light cable/calisthenics workout Saturday once the competition is past, any suggestions on that front?

could you please translate in non figurative images?

kick boxing isnt trash tho

Do any of you anons have any experience at the UFC gyms? Been considering signing up at one, because they have a ton of classes.
I’m a 5’6” Manlet, with a stocky frame. I’m also thinking about taking up wrestling at my college, but I’ve never done any sports before in high school. I’m 20 rn if that matters.

Back from sunday open mat, it went well, took some back, got some mount tried fun things tapped a spazzing hulk and got headbutted before missing the rnc as the 3rd round of fights finished.
What did you train today?

How many times does everybody train per week?

14, you cannot do less than optimal if someone else wants to beat you