So it looks like maybe increasing your calories by 20 kcal every day would make you gain about 2 kg bodyweight per...

What do you even mean? 3500 kcal/30 is the amount of calories you should be over your TDEE to gain 1 lb/month? 7700/30 for 1 kg/month? Twice for 2 kg? Where did you get this figure from? Even if this is the case, the problem remains that your TDEE goes up when your bodyweight goes up, so how do you know when to increase your calories and by how much? As I've said before on this board, if you wait until your bodyweight stalls and then increase by about 500 kcal again you'll have periods of progress in the gym alternating with periods of stalling in the gym, doesn't seem ideal to me. That's why I'm saying why not increase by a small amount every day instead? Plus, some people here say you can't look at one-week average for bodyweight, so in order to know that your bodyweight has stalled, how long do you wait? 2 weeks, 3 weeks of apparent stall before you say yes, I did indeed stall now let's add 500 kcal. Don't you see my fucking point? Why are you all so fucking braindead on this board?

No, AGAIN, it's not a 20 kcal surplus. You add 20 kcal every day, just like I fucking said, learn to read. Yeah, there's an uncertainty in both the calories consumed and the calories burned. So what? That uncertainty is the same if you increase by 500 kcal once a month, or by 500/30 every day. By splitting up the increase you might get a more even increase in bodyweight.

How do you plan to add 20kcal each day? An extra almond/peanut once a day?

By counting calories as usual and just adding 20 kcal to the goal every day.

You mean like Day 1 +20kcal, Day 2 +40kcal, Day 3 +60kcal?
Well that's an extremely autistic way to do it but alright I'll bite.
20+(20×2)+(20x3)..... (20x40)=15,620
So it'd take you about a month and ten days.

Well you have a few issues then:

1) You would need to add 31 kcal each day, not 20, to get to 2kg in a month.
2) It's going to be hard to find foods that are easily ramped up in that manner.
3) 31 kcal out of a typical Jow Forums diet is within the margin of error for calorie counting, especially if you rely on food labels
4) Instead of autistically changing your calories by that set amount each day, it would be a lot easier to just add a flat 500kcal/day and achieve the same result.

You're overthinking this.

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Try this you retarded brainlet. If you're not gaining weight eat more. Counting calories down to 20kcal is retarded. Theres too many factors to be that accurate, did you take a couple of more steps than you did yesterday, were those steps unhill or downhill, is it 5° colder than it was, how many breaths did you take. It seems like you came up with some retarded ass system you think is a fucking epiphany and you want someone to sing your praises but in reality its completely stupid and everyone is calling you out on it.

>1) You would need to add 31 kcal each day, not 20, to get to 2kg in a month.
Why? Based on what numbers? I'm obviously deriving the 20 kcal from the graph in the OP.

>2) It's going to be hard to find foods that are easily ramped up in that manner.
No, why? Not harder than counting calories otherwise. Unless you don't try to pinpoint your calories very much, but instead for example don't care if your measurement says 50 kcal more or less. I try to pinpoint it. Then the number is not going to be accurate regardless for various reasons, there's stuff left in the blender after you've drunk the shake etc. But that doesn't matter, what matters is that the goal increases, you'll always have an error in the measurement.

>3) 31 kcal out of a typical Jow Forums diet is within the margin of error for calorie counting, especially if you rely on food labels
See what I said in the previous point.

>4) Instead of autistically changing your calories by that set amount each day, it would be a lot easier to just add a flat 500kcal/day and achieve the same result.
Fuck you're all braindead on here. How many times do I have to repeat this point? No it's not the fucking same thing. AGAIN, ating the same amount of calories each day you have two problems, 1) you bodyweight will alternate between periods of gain and periods of plateau, causing you to stall at the gym. 2) Apparently 7-day averages of bodyweight are useless, so how do you know when you've reached a new TDEE and need to increase your calories again? TDEE calculators aren't exact, they only give you a ballpark figure. Do you wait until you seem to have stalled in bodyweight and then an extra 2-3 weeks until you know for sure you're not actually gaining weight but you're at maintenance? Waste of time. Can I get a fucking answer to this? I've asked maybe 30 fucking times on this braindead board.

As I said, adding, not adding to the TDEE, adding to the previous days calories. If you eat 3000 yesterday, then 3020 today, 3040 tomorrow. Where are you getting the number 15,620 from? What would take a month and ten days? I was obviously deriving the number 20 from the graph in the OP.

>If you're not gaining weight eat more.
No, that's what is a fucking retarded thing to say. I can't even begin to describe how fucking retarded it is. For example, someone on here implied a 7 day average of your bodyweight is useless. So how do you fucking know when you're not gaining enough, or when you're gaining too fast? And then, again, how do you know when to increase the calories and by how much? Regardless you need to count calories. Your comment is such fucking nigger tier retardation it can't even be addressed.

>Find your tdee weekly
What do you mean find your tdee weekly? By putting in your bodyweight into a tdee calculator online? Or how?

Holy fuck you really are retarded on this board. Not one fucking person has understood my fucking point yet.

I'm really impressed with your autism desu

I'm not fucking talking about THE FUCKING SURPLUS. Can you get that into your tiny little fucking pea-brains? I'm talking about the increase of the calories. Not how much is added on top of the TDEE, how much is added each time you fucking increase the calories, increase as in increase the amount from what you fucking used to eat previously. Holy fuck you're all dumb.

This is ~15400cal surplus for 30 days increasing by 33/day. Note i think its dumb and youre gonna gain like crazy in the later days and hardly at all at first.

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My point was, that there is no way you can measure your daily kcal down to 20 kcals. There will always be a certain amount of uncertainty involved, I'd say at least +-50 kcals, but more often +-100 kcals, because of measurement errors.

Jesus christ, you truly are a brainlet.

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>Based on what numbers?
The numbers in the chart I posted.
Adding 20 kcals each day only gives you 9920 kcal. 9920kcal = 1.28kg/2.83lbs
>I'm obviously deriving the 20 kcal from the graph in the OP.
More than half of the graph in the OP is over 30kcal. Post the actual numbers.
>But that doesn't matter, what matters is that the goal increases, you'll always have an error in the measurement.
Wrong and this is why it comes down to the food choice I was mentioning. When you start, you are adding 20kcal per day. With food label rounding, that can be between 17kcal and 22kcal. If you just keep multiplying that error, by the end of the month you're looking at a 2500kcal gap between the low and high ends.
>No it's not the fucking same thing. AGAIN, ating the same amount of calories each day you have two problems
It's simple math, brainlet. If you increase by 20 kcal each day, you will have a total TDEE increase over the month of 9920 kcal. It would range from +20kcal on day 1 to +620kcal on day 31

You would get the exact same results if you ate an extra 320 kcal every day instead. 320 * 31 = 9920.

god this bait is fucking superb

i love the really creative wacky bait where the OP acts more autistic than you thought possible

Engineer here. I've been in your seat before. You're overthinking it. Read the sticky and lift the weight.

If you want to gain 4.4 pounds that's 15,300 calories. Are you retarded?

If I weight myself in the morning and weight myself at night it says I've gained 5lbs. Drink a bottle of water and you've gone up a pound. Its these fluctuations that make day to day weighting retarded. That's why you have to wait 1-2 weeks before you get any measurement that means anything. Trying to add 20kcal a day is stupid. You are the retard not everyone else. Either take the advice or dont and stay DYEL.

>If you're not gaining weight eat more
>No that's a fucking retarded thing to say

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>youre gonna gain like crazy in the later days and hardly at all at first.
No, what's the logic there? You already have a surplus. There's no logic at all to your statement. All you do is instead of increasing 500 kcal every month or whatever, you split the increase into 30 parts. If anything it causes you to gain weight evenly, while the 500 kcal jumps causes you to gain fast at first and then slower over time as you're approaching a new TDEE.

I already addressed this point. It doesn't fucking matter, the point is you split up the goal into smaller increments. The error is the fucking same regardless, hence why that's irrelevant to the fucking point.

>Adding 20 kcals each day only gives you 9920 kcal
What? 20x30=600
>Post the actual numbers.
see pic related
>Wrong and this is why it comes down to the food choice I was mentioning. When you start, you are adding 20kcal per day. With food label rounding, that can be between 17kcal and 22kcal. If you just keep multiplying that error, by the end of the month you're looking at a 2500kcal gap between the low and high ends.
Maybe the way you do it, not the way I do it. Maybe if you make a meal plan and use the same meal plan the whole time. But I use myfitnesspal, so it's doesn't work like that.
>It's simple math, brainlet. If you increase by 20 kcal each day, you will have a total TDEE increase over the month of 9920 kcal. It would range from +20kcal on day 1 to +620kcal on day 31

You would get the exact same results if you ate an extra 320 kcal every day instead. 320 * 31 = 9920.
Holy fuck, I've explained a thousand times and my point still flies over your heads.

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>What? 20x30=600
You are increasing 20 calories each day, no?
So Day 1 = TDEE+20
Day 2 = TDEE+40
etc
Over the course of 30 days, you will have eaten an extra 9300 kcal. That is 2.66lbs/1.21kg.
>see pic related
The average for "calorie change" in that picture is 34.25. So where'd you get 20?
>But I use myfitnesspal, so it's doesn't work like that.
Most of MFP's data is from food labels, which suffers the same rounding issues that I mentioned.

>measuring daily changes in kg/month over the course of a month
>not just measuring start and end weights at the beginning/end of the month
retard thread?

>eaten an extra
No, because your TDEE goes up all the time. Day one you have increased 20, day 30 you have increased 600 kcal over what you ate day one.
>The average for "calorie change" in that picture is 34.25. So where'd you get 20?
Did you calculate the average putting in all those numbers? You seem to be forgetting that there's another column, for weight gain, so what is the average of the calorie change useful for? I looked at the two lines in the graph and roughly estimated about 20 kcal/day increase corresponds to 2 kg/month bodyweight gain.
>Most of MFP's data is from food labels, which suffers the same rounding issues that I mentioned.
There's errors, even if you check the numbers for yourself as opposed to rely on MFP, but I mean the way you put it, as a multiplied rounding error, I don't see how it works like that unless you make mealplans and add on them. If you pick items and weigh the food etc. the errors are sometimes up, sometimes down. There's no logic in what you're saying about multiplying rounding errors.

If you're adjusting it for your current TDEE on a daily basis, that becomes even more needlessly complicated and confusing.

>determine the additional calories you need to gain the desired weight
>for 2kg, that's 7700kcal
>divide that by your timeframe (30 days) = 257 kcal/day
>each week, recalculate your TDEE and add 257 to that

Your TDEE will vary by less than 10 kcal from one Sunday to the next, so getting all autistic with it every day is a waste of time.

I've asked and got no answer. What the fuck do you mean "recalculate your TDEE"? How? An online calculator?
And for FUCK'S SAKE no, fucking retard, I'm not talking about calculating TDEE on a daily basis, I'm just pointing out I was never talking about any fucking adding onto the TDEE, just fucking adding in general. I already said it 5000 times, adding on top of yesterday. Why are these words adding and increasing so fucking complicated for you chicken brains? Still nobody fucking gets my point.

just bee yourself

Then maybe the problem lies in your inaptitude to explain things you fucking arrogant baboon.

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>What the fuck do you mean "recalculate your TDEE"? How? An online calculator?
If only a tool you already mentioned using (MyFitnessPal) had such a thing built in every time you updated your weight.

>Still nobody fucking gets my point
Because you aren't clear in explaining it. Why would we help you if you keep being a cunt and failing to explain yourself?

Do whatever you want. We were just trying to keep you from wasting your time, but it's clear your life and time is meaningless.

Cant wait for tomorrows new thread. Youre a real tropper, a messiah even, putting up with spergs.

>If only a tool you already mentioned using (MyFitnessPal) had such a thing built in every time you updated your weight.
It doesn't work. It doesn't even change when you put in a different weight, you change the weight by a kilo and it shows the same calorie goal. I stopped using that number a long time ago. Only used that to get in the ballpark when I started.

I'll try explaining again. Me and you people aren't talking about the same thing when we say increase or add calories. I've said it before, I'm not talking about the TDEE, forget the TDEE. I'm talking about something you would do instead of what you call "recalculate the TDEE weekly". Instead of recalculating the TDEE, however you do that, and THEN changing the calories you eat based on that, you just add 20 kcal or whatever other amount DAILY. Instead of WEEEKLY you change the calories DAILY. Or you could do it weekly if you wanted to. The point is an increase, and meditate on what I fucking mean by that word, in increments, more frequent seems better imo.

Normal Jow Forums Autist: casually adjust food intake based on current goals and current weight

(You): calculate TDEE one time, then add 20 calories every day without measuring anything ever again

What a fucking dumbass you are. I count calories and weigh myself and look at the graphs. Tell me what you use to calculate your TDEE every week? I told you mfp doesn't work.

And you just blindly trust this figure 3500 kcal/lb weight gain divided over the days you want for example 30 days? You never check how much you ACTUALLY GAINED? I used mfp's numbers for a while and they don't work, that's why I stopped using them.

Do you morons understand now?

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Have you ever thought that maybe since it works for everyone else that you're the dumbass that doesnt know how to measure yourself and you input data wrong? Or that your TDEE fluctuates minutely based on a thousand different factors and that there's no way to no EXACTLY how many calories you're eating down to the tenths place so day to day measurements are borderline useless. I understand what you're saying and it's stupid.
>Just increase your kcals by 20 everyday so it matches the increase in your TDEE

That's fucking stupid your TDEE doesnt work like that. You are an autistic faggot. Everyone over your dozen fucking threads has told you this. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you refuse to listen to advice and that's why you aren't progressing. You can make all these shitty little bait threads all you want but at the end of the day your still going to be a DYEL little bitch.

cry moar

Every kg bw adds 9.99 cals to expendature. So everyday for 30days you should add ~2/3 cals, not even 1 calorie. At day 30 youll be up burning 20extra a day compared to 0extra on day0. 520 vs 500

Of course this is true. It's simple physics, calories in calories in. 20kcal*31 weights 2kg. It's all energy bro. Our calorie burning organ operates at natural constant rate. There are no deviations.

Obviously if you increase your intake over time the amount of weight gained per day/month will also increase. Although gaining weight will increase your metabolism/tdee it will definitely be by far less than 20 kcal each day. After 3 months you will be eating at a 2k surplus which is more than half a pound a day